this is starting to get to me, i dont understand how you can get say a kimber 8400 in america for $1050 yet over here they are $2400. come on the NZ dollar isnt 40cents against the us! its nearly 80! you convert the price and 1050 comes up around the $1310 mark, thats cheaper than a tikka T3 over here. i want to know where the extra $1100 is justified, sure there is shipping and a few customs bills, but surely they dont add up to $1100, i seriously doubt they are even half.

fcuk the middle man.

Yeah Paul, I am with you there.

But for the retailer holding stocks paid for at lower exchange rates its an issue. He either has to discount and lose money or try and sell at what he originally wanted and hopefully reprice when the next shipment arrives at lower cost.

BUT they dont, they profiteer as we know. Low volume sales dont help them either.

Petrol companies price on what it costs to replace the fuel, not what it cost to bring in.

Only answer for us is to order direct from overseas where possible and time our orders. Like buy now!

Well Paul if you think that is rough, what about the price structure of ADI powder. In Oz a 500 gm container on BM2 is AU$36.00. In America it is marketed as Hodgdon BM. If you care to go to Bruno Shooters Supply you will see it sells for US$19.95. when converted is AU$22.66. How come they buy it for AU$14.00 less than we do and it is made here in OZ. I have no idea what you get charged in NZ for ADI but I bet you don't get it as cheap as the US does.
BTW congrats on the win NZ.
Pete

Gidday Pete,

The good news for Oz is it costs $69 per 500gm for ADI Benchmark, AR2209 is $66.

Pretty bloody rough Guys but we still pay it. I need some more 2209 and some more IMR4064 but have to arrange an extension on the overdraft.

This is all with the record strength of our dollar.

Happy Hunting

Hamish

Hamish, are you serious. It costs NZ$69 for BM !!!. Mate I know us Aussies like to screw you Kiwi's, but even this sounds a bit harsh to me. I wished I could send over a pack or two for christmas.
Keep the faith.
Pete

Swazi jackets are $359US on Swazi's website about $450NZD at current exchange rate and cost around $650NZD in the shops here

I have Kiwi's working in my shop all the time, they're coming over with empty suitcases and taking them home full on every trip.

Its all about being an insignificant market in the world , and having ruthless importers who dont care about giving the customer a good deal. And , as more of us wise up and buy via the internet , the market will get smaller , and the prices will rise higher.

Find a mate in the US who will buy and ship you the stuff you want - untill the postal services clamp down on that too.

Gidday Muzza,

Thats great with most stuff but try doing it with a firearm, powder, primers etc and it gets a lot harder.

Even a US citizen coming out from the States with a firearm is in trouble if they try to go back in without it I believe. It just part of the paranoid world we live in.

Happy Hunting

Hamish

You might be getting screwed by the import & transport companies, the other possibility is how high are the import duties collected by your government?

Most of it is greed on the part of the importers. As a very small market we only have one importer for each brand of goods , so there is no competition. When there is no competition the seller charges whatever the market will stand.

Transport costs arent that high - if I can buy something at retail price in the US , then airfreight it to me here in NZ , pay gst , and still come in at half the local dealer price who is getting screwed ?

A good example - last year the dealership for Remington firearms changed to another importer . Prices dropped by approx 25%... who was getting screwed on a bigger scale .....

Other than alchohol and tobacco we have almost no duties but there is a 12.5 % Goods and Services Tax (GST) on everything. Thats it, so no, its the importers and retailers.

If we import stuff ourselves and its under NZ$400 inc freight customs doesnt bother with GST.

I once had an NZ$2700 order from Brownells shipped in 7 packages and it was cheaper than paying the GST.

A small retailer in USA sends me dies and stuff and calls them machine parts, gets around any "gun" connotations.

Re Remingtons, the retail arm of that importer is still trying to sell old stock at the old exhorbitant price.

I guess his stock will be slow moving until he meets the market!

im in the wrong business anyway! im working on a sheep and beef farm, actually its the olds farm, its good we have a few reds out the back, heaps of dams and a large number of magpies not far from home. anyway, with the high dollar we aint getting that much for the sheep side of the business, cattle are doing well but with rising compliance costs etc the profit margain is getting smaller, i read in a farmer paper that is costs $54 to produce a lamb, this year we are trying to keep our average at $50! but im fairly sure it aint costing us $54 to produce the lamb but i dont have anything to do with the bill paying side of it.

anyway saw a nightforce scope for sale from a american shop, forget what one it is, it was going to cost $1850NZD to get it here, it was a NXS 5.5-22X56 npr2, roughly worth $2600NZD in shops here!