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Aussies dont buy Woodleighs?? bewildered


Generally, Aussie shooters are all over US product, as are the magazines.

BTW, what made you use Hornady ?

Because it was factory off the shelf
and you didn't have time to reload ?

Or was it regulated with it ?

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Nigel

Of course Aussies use Woodleighs. Especially in the large calibres and especially in double rifles.

You got some past angst, you'd like to share with everyone? Wink

Ha ha, but you are somewhat right, in that a lot of gunshops hardly stock them at all, then probably wonder about no sales because they carry NO STOCK, and anyone smart starts buying direct especially if its not available locally. Too many cheap arse shooters whom think cheap is value, instead of often cheap is cheap for a reason.


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No wuckas JH.Just back from hunting with Sambur,off again early am tomorrow... btwthat wallow has been smashed to buggery also as I saw today.



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Nice bull Matt.....and well done Harry on the boar.

For what it's worth I've seen quite a few one shot killers/performers on big game it's just that my theory is while it's wriggling.....keep hitting.
I have personally used Hydros on buff and while the first shot was effective if the buff was still moving I kept hitting.

As JH said, buff/scrub bulls don't drop to the shot unless spine or head shot. Usually a spine shot is a mis-directed lung shot.

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Nigel

Of course Aussies use Woodleighs. Especially in the large calibres and especially in double rifles.

You got some past angst, you'd like to share with everyone? Wink

Ha ha, but you are somewhat right, in that a lot of gunshops hardly stock them at all, then probably wonder about no sales because they carry NO STOCK, and anyone smart starts buying direct especially if its not available locally. Too many cheap arse shooters whom think cheap is value, instead of often cheap is cheap for a reason.



Jesus John, for someone who doesn't allow deletes links to relevant Double Rifle info on AR from NitroExpress, I'm surprised you show your face here.

BTW - Better check some of the posts on NE, someone posted a few links to AR (and no it wasn't me since you kept deleting them).


Re "You got some past angst, you'd like to share with everyone? Wink"

Nope, not at all. Love Woodleigh's, like Hydro's, both work well,
will probably give the Hydro's a work out again once I take a DR
up that has proper bore measurements for the calibre.

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Nigel

Of course Aussies use Woodleighs. Especially in the large calibres and especially in double rifles.

You got some past angst, you'd like to share with everyone? Wink

Ha ha, but you are somewhat right, in that a lot of gunshops hardly stock them at all, then probably wonder about no sales because they carry NO STOCK, and anyone smart starts buying direct especially if its not available locally. Too many cheap arse shooters whom think cheap is value, instead of often cheap is cheap for a reason.



Jesus John, for someone who doesn't allow deletes links to relevant Double Rifle info on AR from NitroExpress, I'm surprised you show your face here.


Nigel,

I'm amazed you can show your face anywhere, considering the reputation you have in Australia.

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BTW - Better check some of the posts on NE, someone posted a few links to AR (and no it wasn't me since you kept deleting them).


No I just delete your bullshit cross posting pretending to have knowledge. Wink


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Re "You got some past angst, you'd like to share with everyone? Wink"

Nope, not at all. Love Woodleigh's, like Hydro's, both work well,
will probably give the Hydro's a work out again once I take a DR
up that has proper bore measurements for the calibre.


Come on Nigel, be consistent in your lies. Funny thing all us Aussies, the great many whom DO use Woodleighs, and actually go shooting and hunting Wink like Matt whom immediately picked up on that statement.

BTW all these hunting trips you claim to do. Why don;t you ever post any photos? Wink

BTW you do know the difference between a Verney Carron and a Sabatti, don't you? rotflmo



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Originally posted by 500N:
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Originally posted by Matt Graham:
Aussies dont buy Woodleighs?? bewildered


Generally, Aussie shooters are all over US product, as are the magazines.

BTW, what made you use Hornady ?

Because it was factory off the shelf
and you didn't have time to reload ?

Or was it regulated with it ?

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Yes it was just the factory stuff that I could get and the V-C people said the Hornady ammo matches the ammo the gun is regulated for and it certainly does seem to shoot it very well (although the actual POI seems to be a little off). I wont continue using the factory ammo - now I have some cases going I want to try TSX's and if they dont work I will try Woodleigh softs.

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Sorry for the late come in Matt. I've been out bush for the last week. Nice bull. I would like to get one to go along side my buff mount. Are they any easier to cape out than a buff?
Thanks Bakes

Easier?? Hmmm well it is no easier to do the face prep on a scrub bull than a buff... the earrs may be a little easier. Actual caping it off is just the same but I think both of them are pretty easy to cape because they are 'loose' skins. The scrub bull is a little easier to handle because it isnt near as heavy as the buff. I would say the scrubber is easier overall than a buff - yes...

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Nice bull Matt.....and well done Harry on the boar.

Thanks Mark!! He was too good to pass-up, that's for sure!! Big Grin


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Nice bull, Matt.
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Thanks mate!! tu2


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finally got my little video finished!! It is pretty low quality but it shows parts of the final stalk and the shots.

Thanks to Al S for the impromptu filming and to Ben T for the edit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_JdFQTUFX0


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After wading through all the piss-fest waters it was great to "regain dry land" and see your video Matt. That bull sure soaked up the punishment. I was surprised at how mild the recoil appears with your VC. What does she weigh?


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Thanks Bill

That is mostly me eating the recoil!! I forget exactly what it weighs but I think it is around 10 or 10.5 lbs??

Nice gun to shoot... but let me tell you it nearly sat me on my arse when I accidently doubled it recently!!!

BTW - I am sure that taking a lean on the tree makes the recoil look less too...


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Good stuff Matt. He certainly looked a bit sick after the 2nd shot.

Where did you hit him with the first two shots ?

Some of them seem to be real buggers to put down even with good shots.

Well done, love the stalk, great shooting and great trophy.

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Thanks Nigel

Actually I think he was hurting bad on the first shot. I dont really know where each individual shot went. One was right smack on the money, one was a bit beind the crease angling forward a little and one was in the front of the shoulder and may not have been all that effective (I did not autopsy, just skinned it). The back shot went through to the skin on the far side, the others werent apparent. I am pretty sure that was my second shot as I remember at the time I was second-guessing where the bullet would hit... as it wasnt shooting dead on at that range with that ammo and I was pulling it to the left a little (of course I didnt have to!!).

That recovered projectile was perfect... but I am starting to doubt the DGX capability, judging by all the negative feedback on them in calibres, here and elsewhere. They sure worked fine on this big critter!!


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After wading through all the piss-fest waters it was great to "regain dry land" and see your video Matt. That bull sure soaked up the punishment. I was surprised at how mild the recoil appears with your VC. What does she weigh?


The big lump of weight behind the butt helps too....... Big Grin

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Thanks Nigel

Actually I think he was hurting bad on the first shot. I dont really know where each individual shot went. One was right smack on the money, one was a bit beind the crease angling forward a little and one was in the front of the shoulder and may not have been all that effective (I did not autopsy, just skinned it). The back shot went through to the skin on the far side, the others werent apparent. I am pretty sure that was my second shot as I remember at the time I was second-guessing where the bullet would hit... as it wasnt shooting dead on at that range with that ammo and I was pulling it to the left a little (of course I didnt have to!!).

That recovered projectile was perfect... but I am starting to doubt the DGX capability, judging by all the negative feedback on them in calibres, here and elsewhere. They sure worked fine on this big critter!!



I'll watch the video again when I have time and look closer at
the reaction of the Bull to the first shot.

Interesting. Well the positions you mentioned for the first two certainly sound spot on. Agree that the third may not have been that effective.

As I said before, they can be buggers to put down. Thinking about it, the fact he didn't run far after the first shot makes me think he was well hit with the first shot.


Re your last sentence, Scrubbers may be big and heavy but they are still thin skinned. i would be interested to see if you notice a difference on Buffalo with the really thick hide.


Re the stalk - he seemed to know something was up but did he know where you were or did he lose you behind the tree after first sighting you and was then just trying to sniff you out.

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Thanks Nigel

Actually I think he was hurting bad on the first shot. I dont really know where each individual shot went. One was right smack on the money, one was a bit beind the crease angling forward a little and one was in the front of the shoulder and may not have been all that effective (I did not autopsy, just skinned it). The back shot went through to the skin on the far side, the others werent apparent. I am pretty sure that was my second shot as I remember at the time I was second-guessing where the bullet would hit... as it wasnt shooting dead on at that range with that ammo and I was pulling it to the left a little (of course I didnt have to!!).

That recovered projectile was perfect... but I am starting to doubt the DGX capability, judging by all the negative feedback on them in calibres, here and elsewhere. They sure worked fine on this big critter!!



I'll watch the video again when I have time and look closer at
the reaction of the Bull to the first shot.

Interesting. Well the positions you mentioned for the first two certainly sound spot on. Agree that the third may not have been that effective.

As I said before, they can be buggers to put down. Thinking about it, the fact he didn't run far after the first shot makes me think he was well hit with the first shot.


Re your last sentence, Scrubbers may be big and heavy but they are still thin skinned. i would be interested to see if you notice a difference on Buffalo with the really thick hide.


Re the stalk - he seemed to know something was up but did he know where you were or did he lose you behind the tree after first sighting you and was then just trying to sniff you out.

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No he never actually saw us he was alerted by his mate over to the right - who had seen us. When he was alerted he was actually looking beyond us at my white truck that was parked way the hell away - he just looked up and looked right where the truck was. He kind of looked at me for a second but he didnt recognise us as human. He only moved away when his mate started to move off.

You can actually see his mate briefly (he is mostly white) in the clip, running off.


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He's a prety big boy, He didn't want to lie down thats for sure.
 
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Matt

Had another look at the Video. You did hit him well the first time and of course the second time.

He seemed to do that "dip" that they do when well hit before picking themselves up and running until they find out it hurts.

Also saw the other bull as you said.

Most of my one's have always bled well, didn't seem to be much blood on the animal in the photo (unless you cleaned it off !!!).

Great piece of Video.
 
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No he never actually saw us he was alerted by his mate over to the right - who had seen us. When he was alerted he was actually looking beyond us at my white truck that was parked way the hell away - he just looked up and looked right where the truck was. He kind of looked at me for a second but he didnt recognise us as human. He only moved away when his mate started to move off.

You can actually see his mate briefly (he is mostly white) in the clip, running off.


What is it with scrub bulls hanging out in pairs?? Nearly every decent bull I saw up there was hanging out with a younger model, and almost always in pairs. Sure makes the stalks more interesting keeping an eye on the second bugger!!

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