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Hey Guys.

Just wondering if anyone has seen the article by Daryl Lenkic on the Big Bore B&Ms in this months Australian Shooter, and what you think about it?

Michael


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havent seen it , but will try to see if i can find it.....to busy getting my 416 Ruger finished!!
 
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I have it posted on the website now, just go to the link at the bottom, under my name, and it will be in news and events, and under 50 B&M. Downloadable PDF.

Just like to know what you guys think is all. Curious.


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nice artice, would love to drop a big sambar stag with one if those 500 s
 
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Well I think Daryl did a very nice job too. I hear from all you guys down there that the sambars are tough as buffalo, and many prefer big bores for them! Must be some tough damn deer? I think Con built his 458 B&M pretty much for that reason. Which I have not heard from him in a week or two?

I would have to think that any of the 50s would do a number on the sambar?

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sambar are as tough as buffalo???


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sambar are as tough as buffalo???



Matt, you asking me???? I never seen a sambar in my life? Wouldn't know what one was unless you pointed it out to me.

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But from the way I hear it they are tough, I don't know, never seen much one of my 50s wouldn't sort out in pretty short order. Figure I could do a sambar with one too.

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Michael send me one of your rifles and ill shoot a Sambar and a Buffalo and report which was the harder to kill tu2


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Sounds good. Did you ever go shoot some buffalo? Anyway......Not me that says sambar are tough, just what some chaps down under say about them. I hear they have a chap down there built a 458 WSM just for sambar??

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[QUOTE] I don't know, never seen much one of my 50s wouldn't sort out in pretty short order. Figure I could do a sambar with one too.

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I reckon you probably could too!! Smiler I figure when people say sambar are tough it is in relation to other deer -eg, fallow, reds, axis, etc.

I just had a chuckle when you said sambar are as tough as buffalo. You cant really compare them - they are just totally different beasties.


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Sounds good. Did you ever go shoot some buffalo? Anyway......Not me that says sambar are tough, just what some chaps down under say about them. I hear they have a chap down there built a 458 WSM just for sambar??

Michael
No doubt that they are hard to pull down, compared to other deer... but my understanding is that the heavy cals are just as much about the brush and terrain where they live... you may well be shooting through a lot of vegetation and you want to get the animal down, sometimes with less than 'perfect' shot placement, in the fastest possible time...


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Hey Guys.

Just wondering if anyone has seen the article by Daryl Lenkic on the Big Bore B&Ms in this months Australian Shooter, and what you think about it?

Michael


Would have been a lot better if the author had submitted it to a magazine with subeditors who actually shoot rather than have a background doing layouts for womens weekly's...

Or did you really chamber a win 94 in .50B&M Alaskan Roll Eyes
 
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50 B&M Alaskans are Marlin 1895s or guide guns and Winchester/Browning M71s.

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Hey Guys.

Just wondering if anyone has seen the article by Daryl Lenkic on the Big Bore B&Ms in this months Australian Shooter, and what you think about it?

Michael


Would have been a lot better if the author had submitted it to a magazine with subeditors who actually shoot rather than have a background doing layouts for womens weekly's...

Or did you really chamber a win 94 in .50B&M Alaskan Roll Eyes
hehehe - true...


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Michael,
yes, I read that article with interest.

Sambar are tough in the body and allegedly have low blood pressure, which makes them less susceptible to bullet holes. However, the really tough bit is getting a shot at them and when you do they are often running. Therefore, it helps to have a big rifle that might knock one off his feet or leave a big blood trail.

I once read in an old book about hunting in India that sambar were thought much tougher than tiger, though they're often not much bigger. It recommended the .500 BPE for tiger but the .577 for buffalo and sambar.

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Hey Paul

Yes, I have heard a lot about the sambar, don't know much about them except what I am told. Bigger bore seems to be the thing, whether brush, fleeting shots, or knock em out power.

For me, I think I will stick to shooting buffalo.

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I have rolled heaps of sambar,let me say that some are as tough as an elephant and some are as tough as a house cat which is much the same with most species of game.

Hit them right and down they go,big thumping calibres are not needed.



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Without a guide having tied one to a tree for you, Michael, or at least having a hide in a red-hot place, getting a trophy sambar within a week would be a slim chance, so your decision to try for buffalo instead is probably a wise one.

- Paul
 
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Yep, I think we are correct. I don't have the patience for most any sort of deer anyway. Not to mention I have a serious affliction that keeps leading me to put bullets in buffalo! It's an awful thing, every time I test or think of a particular bullet the question comes to mind "How will this do for Buffalo", not deer, not anything else, buffalo. Working on some new buffalo bullets now in fact, for my .500 caliber rifles. Already have some dandy buffalo bullets, but one can never have too many good buffalo bullets I say!

You people are blessed to have buffalo on the continent!!!!!!! I would be out shooting buffalo many times a year if I had what you got!!!!!!! I wonder if I can become a "dual Citizen"????? Not only buffalo, but all the other critters you have in "abundance" for shooting! A bullet testing Heaven! Aussies, the Chosen Ones! LOL.

Michael


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