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Hello from the other side of the world Wink

Just a quick question regarding Woodleigh bullets as I guess you guys have first hand experience.

I have been using the 250 gr RN in my 35 Whelen on moose and red stag with exellent result.
Today I came over 200 pc of 250 gr in 338 Winmag for sale at an 50 % discount, and bought it unseen on internet.
I guess ( hope) that this is the PP version, but it can just as well be the RN.

Anyway...it´s ment for African plains game up to, and including zebra and kudu, as well as big nordic moose.

Have any of you had any experience with this bullet in 338 Winnie on big game ?


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I ran the 225 version in the 338 win for a while on sambar while they killed well i found them a little to hard for my liking,But that aside 3 of the blokes i hunt with swear by the 250"s and its very rare that they need more than 1 shot.They load them over 71.5 grns AR2213 (H4831)
 
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The 250 gr PP's are too tough for whitetail-sized animals in my experience. They behave like FMJ:s on broadside shots behind the shoulder. Animal dies but will run farther than you would like.
 
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I have shot 30 or so head of thin skinned game with woodleigh 225 gr Protected points and I find I am getting golf ball sized exits on chest shots, I think they would be a supurb bullet for many animals. I do remember one guy on this forum saying that he found the 225 gr Protected point woodleigh's to soft for African Plains game. I think the 250 gr would be fine as well and would not open up as readily as the 225 gr bullets probably mainly due to reduced speeds of impact.
 
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Thanks for replays guys.
I have got confirmed that the bullets are the Round Nose, and not the PP type.

A bit lesser BC, but as my range limit usually are within 200m, I guess I can live with that.

Regarding moose, they should be about perfect as the range seldom goes over 150 m.

For plains game i RSA next year, I have zebra, kudu, black wildebeest, waterbuck springbuck and bushbuck on my priority list, with ample room for another nice impala and warthog as well.
I guess those Woodleighs would be good enough for the job at hand Wink


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Arild,
I personally prefer the Woodleigh RN projectiles to their PP. They "seem" to hit harder, but generally seem to show more rapid expansion with the bonded core preventing them from coming apart. Its a winning combination in my circumstances.
Cheers...
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Con.
Yes I really look forward to try these out.
This was such a good buy that I could not let it pass Big Grin


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Arild,
I just returned from Namibia. I used the 250 gr. Woodleigh as loaded by Federal Premium. It is a semi-round nose with a recessed exposed lead tip.

The Woodleigh worked quite well on 2 bull kudu and several oryx. On kudu was taken at 300 plus meters. However, we had to track the animal for over 5 km. in the brush and stop short of finding him due to darkness. The trackers found him the next morning. The bullet was recovered. The kudu was quartering away when shot thru the area of the last ribs. The bullet was recovered in the animals chest. It retained about 60% of its weight.

The bullet worked as intended on oryx and warthog.

I was fortunate to be able to take a large male leopard. However, at the recommendation of the PH, I used a frangible cheap Winchester 200 gr. Power Point. It worked well. The cat died instantly when hit in the boiler room. There was no exit hole. Only part of the jacket cup was recovered. No lead was found. The bullet apparently went off like a grenade in the cat.

Geoff


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Congrats Geoff.
Sounds like you had a great trip thumb
I guess the bullet you used was the PP kind ( Protected point ) Anyway, Woodleigh have a good reputation all over the world, and I have used the 250 gr RN with success on moose in my 35 Whelen.


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Thanks Arild,
An interesting note: The cheap Power Point completely failed by today's standard, but did the job. The PH commented that premium bullets that hold together frequently results in the leopard running off, even if hit well. He has often had the unenviable job of looking for the cat that he hopes has died.

In the 70's, I took many Alaskan moose with cheap factory bulltets. The only premium bullet available was the Nosler partition which required handloading. We did not know the difference. I guess that ignorance is bliss.


The Woodleighs will most certainly do the job on your intended game. It's worldwide reputation for reliability reinforces that.

Geoff


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I bump this back on top if you guys excuse me Wink

I have now loaded the 250 gr Woodleigh Round Nose in my 338 Winmag, and got very good accuracy.
The thing in concern is that the load clocks in at 2630 fps, and the writing on the box from Woodleigh says maxs 2500 fps.

I have sendt an e-mail to Woodleigh asking if this is to fast for the bullet.
But no reply so far.
Can I expect lousy penetration based on too rapid expantion ?

I hate to change the load because of the great accuracy, and it is in the 2600 + fps range that the 338 Winnie really shines with 250 gr bullets.

Any thaughts guys ?


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Don't shoot anything closer than 200 meters,give the bullet time too slow down stir


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Posts: 1881 | Location: Throughout the British Empire | Registered: 08 October 2004Reply With Quote
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Just got mail from Geoff Mc Donald at Woodleigh.
He says that the velocity limits on the box is impact velocity and not muzzle, and that I should be fine with my loading.

That´s good news, and when I check their web site, it says that these are impact vel.
I should have seen that... Frowner

Anyway... great service from Woodleigh beer


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