I have the full rules and such if anyone wants them??
Not sure why they kept the pitt Island and wapiti thing in there if you only need 7 of 10?? Oh well...
Cheers
Matt


The Malek Award Committee is excited to announce the introduction of two new trophies: The Malek Trophy for Australian Game and the Malek Trophy for New Zealand Game.

The Malek Trophies recognize the importance of Australia and New Zealand as hunting destinations in the South Pacific.

If you have clients who you believe may have met the requirements listed above or who may be able to complete the requirements by the due date, please feel free to contact them immediately with information about the Trophies. Applications for the 2013 Malek Trophy for Australian Game and the Malek Trophy for New Zealand Game close on October 31, 2012.

Application forms A and B for the Malek Trophy for Australian Game and the Malek Trophy for New Zealand Game are attached for your convenience, together with a copy of the Rules and Regulations for the Malek Awards and Malek Trophies. Applications should be received by the due date and addressed to " The Malek Award Committee" at the address or fax provided on the attached forms.

Summary

• Applicants for the Malek Trophy for Australian Game and the Malek Trophy for New Zealand Game are required to take any seven (7) of the species available in Australia and New Zealand , respectively.
• No more than one (1) of these species may be taken ranch-style.
• All game species submitted for the award of the Malek Trophy for Australian Game must be taken in Australia .
• All game species submitted for the award of the Malek Trophy for New Zealand Game must be taken in New Zealand .
• Games species taken outside of Australia or New Zealand remain eligible for the JJ. Malek Grand Slam Award or the Malek Golden Award but are not eligible for the Malek Trophies for Australia and New Zealand
• Successful applicants may later apply for the JJ. Malek Grand Slam Award or the Malek Golden Award provided they meet the requirements of those awards.
• Previous winners of the JJ. Malek Grand Slam Award and the Malek Golden Award are not eligible to apply for the Malek Trophy for Australian Game or the Malek Trophy for New Zealand Game
• A $150 application fee applies to each Malek Trophy.
• The Malek Trophies will be presented at the Dallas Safari Club Convention in January of each year.
Malek Trophy for Australian Game (7 of the following 10 species)

Buffalo
Banteng
Chittal
Sambar
Hog Deer
Red Deer
Fallow
Rusa
Goat
Boar


Malek Trophy for New Zealand Game (7 of the following 10 species)

Tahr
Chamois
Fallow
Sika
Red Deer
Sambar
Wapiti
Goat
Boar
Whitetail (In place of the Whitetail, hunters may choose to hunt both the Pitt Island Ram and the Fiordland Stag - the Pitt Island Ram and the Fiordland Stag will be count as one specie for the purpose of the Malek Trophy).

All questions on eligibility may be directed to The Malek Award Committee through the enquiry form on the website: http://www.malekaward.com/

Best wishes,
Diane Malek (on behalf of the Malek Award Committee)

Great! another enticement to shoot a thar from a chopper.

Malek Award has been around for quite a long time and heli-shooting is not allowed or encouraged. Not sure where you get that idea from??

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The Malek Award Committee is excited to announce the introduction of two new trophies:

And because SCI is showing a huge amount of interest in preventing the heli shot animals from being presented.

Doe's the sarcasim show through, or do I need to end that with a big red NOT!

Malek Award has zero to do with SCI... the hunts are judged on their individual merits.

curious - Why is a Fiordland stag different to the 'red deer' catagory?

And is all you have to do is shoot one? No trophy size or anything?

I have already got seven of the NZ ones. Do I have to go to Dallas to get the award? (Do you get a mention in dispatches if you havn't shot any of them 'ranch-style?)


Ah, I see you have to have hunted with a guide. So I am not elgible.

They put the fiordland stag into the Gold Malek thingy as an alternative to the whitetail because of the difficulties with getting one. I guess they just decided to leave it in there for these separate awards...

Trophy size is SCI book minimum

Plenty self-guided hunts have been included in the past too. Just makes it a whole lot easier to verify if a registered guide is involved.

Matt its a bit crazy to think you can hunt,say for example, a red deer that will achieve the minimum SCI that is not behind wire! those days were over 40yrs ago. I would love to win this as I saw Old mic's years ago but the rules keep making it harder and harder of the average hunter and it seems only the guys/gilrs with big buck have any chance of it now!

Didn't think the minimums were that high Jon??

Cheers,
Mark.

Better have another look then I guess mark i know the application form i was looking at there was no way you'd make it without shooting them on a game ranch?Also have a look at the list of winners..........do see any average every day hunters on that list like you and I

The sad thing about awards and grand slams is that it promotes competition between hunters when the only competition should be between the hunter and his target prey. My two cents worth.

Well malek awards just went up in my estimation. I sent them an email this morning asking about the conditions and got a very prompt reply.


Dear Craig,

Thanks for your enquiry. The Malek Award has strict rules regarding fair chase hunting and places the highest value on ethical hunting. Please refer to the Rules page of Malek website for the full rules.

These include the following:

10. Animals taken under circumstances not deemed to be Fair Chase would include:

a. Animals confined by artificial barriers which do not allow them a chance to escape;
b. Locating or herding animals from the air followed by landing nearby and then hunting them;
c. Shooting, herding, or chasing from aircraft or motor powered vehicles of any kind;
d. The use of a spotlight.

11. Game laws in force for any animal at the time of hunting must be strictly adhered to and the Hunter must supply proof that each animal was taken legally.

On heli-hunting the rules are very specific:

21. The use of a helicopter during a hunt may be allowed when hunting Tahr and Chamois, provided the helicopter is used only for access and egress into and out of the hunting area. Once the Hunter has been dropped off, he or she may not discharge a weapon for a minimum of sixty (60) minutes after the helicopter has departed, and said vehicle must withdraw from the area to a minimum distance of three kilometres. For no other reason except life threatening conditions may the helicopter return for a client under a period of seven hours as it is intended that said helicopter be used only to deliver a client into an area that otherwise might be inaccessible to them.



22. Any applicant employing the use of a helicopter during the hunt must have a sworn affidavit to the effect that all these above conditions regarding the use of a helicopter have been followed, and said affidavit must be signed by the helicopter pilot, guide, outfitter and client, and the name, address and phone number of the helicopter pilot must be supplied along with the affidavit, and sent to M.A.A. within 60 days of the hunt.

Applicants may be disqualified if the Malek Award Committee determines that the Rules were breached:

20. The following conditions will constitute disqualification for any Applicant seeking the J. J. Malek South Pacific Grand Slam Award or the Malek “Golden” Award:

a. A Federal conviction for a game violation anywhere in the world within a period of three (3) years prior to the Malek Award Application;



b. Documented proof that any of the above mentioned Rules and Regulations has been violated by the Applicant.;



c.If the Applicant fails to conduct his or herself in a sportsman-like manner while pursuing the Malek Award, he or she may be “censured” by the Malek Award Committee, including but not limited to the possibility of disqualification.



d. Direct approach by an Applicant to any member of the Malek Award Committee or the Malek family with a promise of financial remuneration or personal gain for acceptance of their Application, will automatically invoke their disqualification.

Best wishes,
Danielle Malek



As a set of rules concerning this issue, I don't think anything could be much fairer.
I do realize though that it still comes down to individuals, and companies honesty, and some of the kiwi companies listed ring alarm bells on this issue, in that regard.

Those rules re Helos might cause a few people to have hiccups !!!

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Originally posted by zhaba:
Better have another look then I guess mark i know the application form i was looking at there was no way you'd make it without shooting them on a game ranch?Also have a look at the list of winners..........do see any average every day hunters on that list like you and I

I haven't seen the application Jon but looking at SCI record book minimums lists Red Stag Bronze medal minimum is listed as 185pts

Cheers,
Mark.

Yeah mark but if you look at the scores of some of the winner,especially the young lady(can't think of her name) they were all super gold plus stags and I know for sure that the reds,elk had to be hunted on a ranch no way you'd get them in the wild. Anyway might save the money of another buffalo hunt instead

From what I saw in the years when this award was originally conceived all i can say that there were many of the above rules broken....I personally know the 'guides' that assisted at least two of the recipients.
It turns out that if you want an award you reach into the hip pocket...mere mortals cant compete.

Yep thats what i know to gryphon it was all about your bank balance more than your acheivement and thats why I've got the bad taste in my mouth about it

I don't understand getting an award for hunting. Hunting is a private thing for me and the only trophy I want is he one I hang on the wall in the mans nook.

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Originally posted by zhaba:
Matt its a bit crazy to think you can hunt,say for example, a red deer that will achieve the minimum SCI that is not behind wire! those days were over 40yrs ago. I would love to win this as I saw Old mic's years ago but the rules keep making it harder and harder of the average hunter and it seems only the guys/gilrs with big buck have any chance of it now!

As Mark said the SCI free-range minimum for red stag is what it should be. Remember the South Pacific SCI book has two sections, both free-range and estate. The mimimum is low to encourage more hunters to register their own trophies to provide a better representation of what is actually taken - not just what those more financially endowed take. As for the rules making it harder.... I would suggest that access to the hunting makes it much, much more harder. I mean it is hard enough for someone inside Victoria to take a a free-range sambar or hog deer... let alone someone from another state or country even. I know one recent rtecipient who travelled from Texas to Vic three times before he got a crack at a trophy sambar (guided of course)... The Malek Award gives credit to those hunters (rich or otherwise) who dedicate themselves to the pursuit of these animals.

There was one recent winner (who I was not involved with but did meet) - who spent months travelling around New Zealand off his own bat chasing trophies. Anyone can do it if they have the desire to!!

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Originally posted by gryphon1:
From what I saw in the years when this award was originally conceived all i can say that there were many of the above rules broken....I personally know the 'guides' that assisted at least two of the recipients.
It turns out that if you want an award you reach into the hip pocket...mere mortals cant compete.

No doubt rules would have been broken in the past, breakages that slipped past the committee ... but the bit about mere mortals is incorrect. The committee doesnt check your bank balance... only the evidence that you present that you did not break the rules.

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Originally posted by zhaba:
Yeah mark but if you look at the scores of some of the winner,especially the young lady(can't think of her name) they were all super gold plus stags and I know for sure that the reds,elk had to be hunted on a ranch no way you'd get them in the wild. Anyway might save the money of another buffalo hunt instead

Young girl?? If you are talking about Angie Hall - I checked her SCI records and she has taken 3 free range red stags (NZ) between 192 and 256. If you are talking about Renee Snider - I dont even need to look them up...

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Originally posted by Matt Graham:
but the bit about mere mortals is incorrect.

When you find out that 'someone' pays an amount as to what was the basic wage for a year at the time to shoot the Wap component...the mere mortals line is correct. I also shudder knowing how some of the deer species were taken with extra sunshine.

Who cares? The game ranch wapiti thing is irrelevant anyhow, to the major award anyhow.

Re: the extra sunshine - Like I said, no doubt corners have been cut in the past - but the award is given to people who they believe did the "right thing" 100%. What more can you ask of them? I know certain individuals who have applied time and again and are regularly rejected!!

This is an organisation that upholds free-range ideals, the same ideals we tout on here all the time, to their best abilities.... lets give them some credit eh???

You care because you brought it up matty

We will give the Org credit but not the unscrupulous applicants or guides that dont adhere to the basic principals as set out by the Org.

In my opinion, any award that you can buy in any way isn't an award at all, simply some decoration that you hang on the wall to impress others with your wealth.

Seems that if you can afford to take the time and pay for enough guides you can hang the award on the wall. Certainly possible for the ordinary hunter to achieve but much easier if you shoot it with a money gun.

Do you understand how difficult it is, even WITH guides and good hunting areas?

Guide dont climb the mountain for you or take the shot for you either.

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I know certain individuals who have applied time and again and are regularly rejected!!

Matt

Do you know why they were rejected ?

False claims ?

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That I know of, (alleged) dubious unsubstantiated trophies and/or dubious outfitters/guides. No doubt the helicopter use is looked at very closely. Some trophies would attract more scrutiny too - like the hog deer. Could only be taken in the wild during the regular (short) season, not at some other timne in a game ranch. Look in the SCI free-range record book and you will see a few trophies taken in Victoria outside of April ... just waiting to be moved!!!

Thanks

Figured it would be as much.

Hey Matt who in Aussie can do the measuring for it? are you able to???I'm short a few critter but wouldn't mind putting my hat in the ring so to speak.

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Originally posted by zhaba:
Hey Matt who in Aussie can do the measuring for it? are you able to???I'm short a few critter but wouldn't mind putting my hat in the ring so to speak.

Yeah mate I can score them for you but I cant do top ten animals as I havent done the master measurers course. There are a couple other people down your way too though.

Which animals do you need?

Matty how much is in the diff between your score level and the master level

IE what makes a master?

I've got to remeasure them as i think my whitetail is shy of the mark and a need a bantang but I am stuggling to get access to do it myself and sure don't want to pay $12000 for one there just not worth big money i don't think

You have to do a second course that runs for a day, problem is the only place I have seen it offered is at the SCI convention and the day it is on I am always too busy organising things to do it. The difference is the regular measurers course just gives you the basics and the ability to interpret the measuring instructions (to measure anything). The master measurers thing you have to measure a whole heap of different trophies and your results have to be within a certain % of the actual score or else you wont pass.

OK thanks

Does this mean there arent any MM`s in Aus?

There are a number of Master Measurers - Andrew McKay, Ray Hammond snr, Mick Mccormick, Glen Coolaghan, Bill Webster, Terry Weston and a few others.

You can look them up here.

http://member.scifirstforhunte...ex.cfm?Action=Search

Tar for that... Mick scored my first sambar stag for me

I guess it is Mick snr in that list eh? It just says Michael.

Michael is the son of Kevin McCormick usually known as "Mick/Micky"

I hunted with his brothers hound team for a few years