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can any one recomend a hunt outfiter for an area and an operator Anyway it matters not, because my experience always has been that of---- a loss of snot and enamel on both sides of the 458 Win---- | ||
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Gerald Telford that posts on here http://flyfishhunt.co.nz/ would be a good choice,he is based in South Island. "Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few." Sir Winston Churchill | |||
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HUNTING or pen shooting impossibly gigantic aberrations? Posts: 87 | Location: Victoria Australia | Registered: 07 September 2002 | |||
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that's what I thought good to know what you think about it high price farm raised sliding scale trophy nice country nice views think I will hunt something else somewhere else thanks for the reinforcment of my sence of things red deer NZ Anyway it matters not, because my experience always has been that of---- a loss of snot and enamel on both sides of the 458 Win---- | |||
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There are many free-range red deer hunting operators in Nz. There are also plenty of caged hunt operators. Its your call which you go with, but dont walk away based on an opinion on a hunting forum. If you want to hunt free-range then email a variety of operators from their websites , and ask a specific set of questions. Decide which seems to suit your needs , then ask here for referances or other folks experiences with that operator. travelling this far is part of the experience - the animal is just the excuse to make the journey. ________________________ Old enough to know better | |||
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Couldn't agree more. It does not matter where you go to hunt red deer, there are high fenced deer farm operations. Australia, Chile, Argentina, the UK and the rest of the EU.....you can hunt behind fence or free range. You pick which and then do your homework on which outfitter to go with. You can be pretty much rest assured that if you are looking at the plethora of adds with grip and grin shots with red deer that have mind boggling mass and mega-points, they are from deer farms. No different than the monster elk coming off the elk farms in North America. After a while it seems like people get so use to seeing the genetically enhanced "trophies" of farm raised red deer, elk and whitetail that an excellent wild free ranging member of the species looks anemic to the uninformed. Sad really. ______________________________________________ The power of accurate observation is frequently called cynicism by those who are bereft of that gift. | |||
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The sliding scale results is proof of your willingness to open the wallet basically.Some pay through the nose for one in a lifetime stag others pay every second year and if only they really knew how the rest of the hunting fraternity knew what was thought of those genetically enhanced monstrosities. But if the wealthy are happy to acquire using the fence method so be it. A quick and RANDOM check online had me running my eyes down the pricing list below. I can only imagine how many antler points the POA models have. While the market can be filled there will always be the fenced option for those with the big bank balance. Trophy Animals SCI Score Price RED STAG Up to 300 $2,000 301 up to 320 $3,000 321 up to 339 $4,000 340 up to 359 $5,000 360 up to 379 $7,500 380 up to 399 $10,000 400 up to 420 POA 421 plus POA Posts: 87 | Location: Victoria Australia | Registered: 07 September 2002 | |||
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There are plenty of great free range red deer hunts to be had in NZ so don't be put off by one negative uninformed post. I would recommend the "Hossac station" . They do have estate hunting on a couple thausand acres of land but have over twenty thausand acres of free range hunting | |||
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If you are pointing the finger at me ace you can stick your "negative uninformed post" right where the sun will never shine. I am allowed to opine as everyone else is and believe me I`m certainly not 'uninformed so GFY. Posts: 87 | Location: Victoria Australia | Registered: 07 September 2002 | |||
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Stradling, Both the North and South Island of NZ ,have great Free Range Red deer hunting available. Personally, the South Island does have the reputation for the best/biggest Red Deer. I have hunted with Peter Chamberlain of http://www.nzwildhunt.com/ (South Island based) on many occasions, and have no hesitation in recommending him. Peter also has a very impressive and long standing reputation, within the NZ hunting industry. Not only an exceedingly knowledgeable NZ hunter but a great bloke to be away bush/alps with. Depending on what you prefer, Peter can arrange both great Free Range and Game Park hunting for you. Hope that helps Doh! Homer Lick the Lolly Pop of Mediocrity Just Once and You Will Suck For Life! | |||
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Free range trophy hunting for red deer is a lottery. Very rare to get a 12+ point stag in the wild. No guarantees of even a 10 pint stag or an 8 point stag. There are areas in the South Island where some remote helicopter camps produce monster heads - very private and secretly held. PM me if you are interested and I will give you a guide contact. This guy is a very rough hard hunter and not the typical polite professional who looks after you. He has a good reputation but always a risk about how you get along. No harm talking to him. "When the wind stops....start rowing. When the wind starts, get the sail up quick." | |||
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Yes, you can post what you like. Even if "you know" that it is negative and hardly offers constructive information for what the poster was requesting . Don't know what you would call your negitive uninformed posts?? Shitstirring??? You even admit "a quick random check online" should explain this... Come on man, you know perfectly well there is great stag hunting to be had in NZ. | |||
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Actually Gryphs comments were fair. He started by asking what the op was after. Hunting or canned aberrations. I think that can be substantially justified. The penned deer certainly are not classic examples of true wild deer. And at best its arguable whether you can call it hunting. His second comment was bang on the money. At the low end of the list you are more likely to find a hunt for a free range stag on private land. the further up the price, the less likely it is. If the OP is clear and wants to ask after a free range hunt then im sure one can be found. | |||
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A random check online at today`s pricing by one operator only adds to the MULTITUDE of such pricing and hunting that I have read about since I got online in `98 or `99. But then I have never paid for a hunt ever to anyone in the form of a guide so you are probably correct..I`m uninformed then...what about you,what makes you the professor of paid hunting Red stags in NZ eh...hmmm! Posts: 87 | Location: Victoria Australia | Registered: 07 September 2002 | |||
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Posts: 87 | Location: Victoria Australia | Registered: 07 September 2002 | |||
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Certainly no professor but have shot some free range Stag in NZ and plan on doing it again in 2018 as its grand sport | |||
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Good luck to you too if its all wild and free,the only way to hunt. Posts: 87 | Location: Victoria Australia | Registered: 07 September 2002 | |||
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I have a friend who will guide you on a great 'kiwi style' hunt. PM me if you want his details. | |||
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Or you could hunt wild deer on Conservation land like a normal person. All NZ hunters do it and its free. If you know how to camp, if you can carry a back pack, then a couple of pointers and a map and you can do whatever you like in New Zealand's National Parks. Go during the roar. Which is April. Do some research on where, that would be part of the project. I don't know why people don't recommend this instead of telling people to go and look at a shopping list of potentially dodgy operators stocked with farm bred animals. Sure people have a limited amount of time. So do I. So does everyone who hunts Fiordland for ten days during the roar. I had a friend come over from the USA and he shot a nice ten pointer on his own in Southland. It was no record book animal, but he was pleased as punch. I'm just saying, in New Zealand you don't have to pay for a hunting experience. The hunting operators will all tell you that public land hunting for wild stags in NEw Zealand is impossible because of choppers, 1080, etc, but that is part of how they drum up business. The last thing they want you doing is thinking you can roar in your own stag on Conservation land and do it all for nothing. | |||
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now I like the sound of that carlsen Anyway it matters not, because my experience always has been that of---- a loss of snot and enamel on both sides of the 458 Win---- | |||
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Call Gert and Christine Vermeer at Okau Station. Wife and I went there last year and had a great time. Nice clean accommodations and great food. They have free range hunting for red stag, fallow deer, pigs, and rams. I took a pretty good 12 point stag and let a really nice fallow give me the slip while waiting for a perfect shot. If the tides are right you can get abalone with only getting your feet wet (the house is within walking distance to the beach). DRSS | |||
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In 2015, my son, wife and I had a really great hunt at Makapua Station with Colin and Marg Baynes. They are on the north island. We went during the roar. Free range hunting. We wanted to go back this year but couldn't swing it. | |||
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Just remember that free range hunting of feral deer on a farm is not as hard and "real" as hunting public land. On a farm with bush fringes the guide will drive you up, you walk a bit. Watch the fringes and shoot a deer. Sometimes you may walk in the bush a bit. I real wild bush it is hard, hard, hard hunting. You climb for hours, you cross streams, slips, thick bush. You then walk back with the trophy and meat - this is three times harder than going in! Totally different experience. "When the wind stops....start rowing. When the wind starts, get the sail up quick." | |||
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Yep and some of the 'free range' options seem to be pretty bloody big. There are thousands of members on the main kiwi forum and there are very few truly wild free range heads that are posted on there. Posts: 87 | Location: Victoria Australia | Registered: 07 September 2002 | |||
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We've done both free-range and "pen" hunt for stags in NZ. The free-range hunt took a day. The ridiculously easy "pen" hunt took five days. Some operators do fenced hunts right and others don't. For south Island Gerald Telford is a solid choice and for North Island Gerald Fluerty does things right. | |||
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Importantly expectations are critical. Plenty of free hunting, plenty of quality guided operations. Biggest factor to successful hunt is land tenure. Private land will give access too quality animals, public land is a lottery I wouldn't invest in if I was visiting NZ from overseas. Do your due diligence,be honest with your expectations. NZ is the BEST country in the world to hunt stags, period. | |||
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But you would say that Gerald  Norfolk or Devon would be hard to beat for great Red Stags."Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few." Sir Winston Churchill | |||
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