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Took part in the "Buy Back" locally at the weekend . Not sure why its called a buy back when the Government never owned any on my firearms previously , but weasel words are still weasel words.... I had one firearm on the hit list , and two rough parts guns that met the criteria on tube magazine capacity. It wasnt the worst thing I have had to do in my life , but it came close. Worse for my two buddies there also - one had four non-compliant rifles , the other eight , most of them never fired. We all fared ok financially but on principal it was an extremely distasteful thing to hand your possessions over to the Police . At least those guys were all pretty reasonable about the whole thing , no assholes amongst them , although the guy I was dealing with got a bit ansti when I asked to see his firearms licence at the completion of the paperwork. He was effectively the buyer on behalf of the Govt , so by law I am required to see his licence. I just hope those who claimed to not be affected by this debacle will all sleep better knowing that my 2 tube-mag 22 rifles have been taken off the streets and removed from society. ________________________ Old enough to know better | ||
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it was an extremely distasteful thing to hand your possessions over to the Police . So much for democratic rights. Guess they have two legged sheep in NZ as well as four.  Grizz When the horse has been eliminated, human life may be extended an average of five or more years. James R. Doolitle I think they've been misunderstood. Timothy Tredwell | |||
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I can't imagine going through that process.... Sorry for you. Ski+3 Whitefish, MT | |||
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Hope you spend that money on a new toy Muzza. or new toys even better. I want the output of this new regime to be more guns in our society.I want to see this government explain that. I would love to see them explain how they made society safer by trading your .22's for 270's or 243's. In fact I bought a new rifle the other day. Kitted it out with a suppressor and bipod and got it in .223, Because I will do my best to get as many people into using firearms as I can because thats how we fight this sort of mindless rubbish. making people knowledgable and getting them involved. As said before I dont have anything to hand in, But the absolute stupidity of these laws and reasoning just blows my mind. Not to mention the way its been carried out. Not a word yet on the failure from authorities that allowed the gunman to get weapons in the first place. | |||
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People have to be careful of who they elect. BH63 Hunting buff is better than sex! | |||
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Yes there is , but both of these were very rough , parts only - the Marlin was awful and had many missing parts , the Mod 34 Remington was rusty , drilled for scope mounts ( badly ) and threaded for suppressor . I have much better ones in my collection . You can - legally - fit a spacer to the inner mag tube and reduce the capacity that way. Its not difficult , I have done a few now. ________________________ Old enough to know better | |||
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Fear not , Shanks - a shopping trip is on the cards . My one good SKS will morph into a bunch of collectable old .22 rifles - none of which will run amok and hurt anyone . Not that my sks did that either . ________________________ Old enough to know better | |||
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Pretty much same thing happened here in Australia. Cashed up guys went out and bought new guns  So much for reducing the number of firearms in Aust.------------------------------ A mate of mine has just told me he's shagging his girlfriend and her twin. I said "How can you tell them apart?" He said "Her brother's got a moustache!" | |||
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from an american adhering to the 1934 and 1938 gun control acts  | |||
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Youd be better off not hearing from them on that. Subscribing to the "more checks prevents violence" philosophy is exactly what they want and what creates gun buybacks in the first place. | |||
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Id be going to jail . No way Id give up my guns and we might be faced with that here in the states shortly. Buy a vault and bury them somewhere. Feel sad for you mates. Keep us posted on how high your crime rate goes up and if the criminals are using weapons other than guns | |||
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Its awfully easy to be big and brave and staunch - untill you are actually put into that position yourself. ________________________ Old enough to know better | |||
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Aussie job  Posts: 87 | Location: Victoria Australia | Registered: 07 September 2002 | |||
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You are 100% correct of course...none of us know exactly what we will do until faced with it. We all have families to feed and loved ones and facing legal expenses and criminality is horrendous. But...it we just go along and get along...we will loose all our rights. We have to stand up some way or another. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Indeed. I have had many spirited conversations with guys I know in the tactical crowd who go on and on about tyranny and what have you, and have asked one simple question: What is a scenario in which (save for the immediate protection of you or your family’s lives), you will put the front sight on a person and start pulling the trigger? The question has never been answered. The understanding is that the mere presence of guns in the hands of private citizens would prevent that scenario at all, but a time is coming where legal and peaceful means will remove many guns from those private hands. Many say they will resist, but none have yet so far volunteered to be the first. | |||
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Its getting interesting. The police and politicians responsible for this are talking it up and saying how successful it is, yet when the sums are done, it turns out there have been a lot of junk guns handed in, and not a lot of better quality firearms. Reports are coming out of arms officers actively ringing people and asking them to hand in their guns. So far they havnt accounted for a third of the MSSA"s that they all ready know of. Still have all the A category semis to account for yet as well and the end date for all this was december. The ACT party has started to ask for a breakdown of what guns have been turned in, as its fairly clear a lot of old .22s are being counted in the mix.... So far the authorities are refusing. | |||
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You need to look around, gunsmiths can legally undertake permanent modifications to certain firearms to make them compliant with the new rules for magazines. See one link below. I'm sure there are others around NZ doing similar work. https://www.gunworks.co.nz/sho...irearm-modifications | |||
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Police haven’t released list of approved gunsmiths yet  "Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few." Sir Winston Churchill | |||
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Muzza I wouldn't be going to jail because they would have to shoot me. Im a veteran and have my own set of Mores and ethos that I live and will die by. When the government gets to big for its britches and tries to force my hand then I will do what I need to do. I have lots of friends in law enforcement and in the military that feel the same way I do and I think they will act accordingly also. The day they come and try to confiscate weapons from law abiding citizens will be a sad day in American history and that will lead to a civil war. | |||
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Invest in banned guns, part them out, sell everything then “sell” the serial numbered receiver to the gov. Buy more guns? Elections have consequences. | |||
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Eagle - I have been progressively modifying the inner tube mags on my .22 rifles myself. There is , as Top Predator says , no list of "Approved Gunsmiths " from the Police yet . That in itself suggests to me that they arent really trying to make a list at all- could be wrong. Also , the requirements on the gunsmith to recover the cost of the work include pictorial evidence of the work done , details of make , model , serial number of the firearm etc etc. And more Police forms to fill in , thus aiding the move to registration. If I do the task myself I dont have to supply any of that information , therefore wont be aiding and abetting the collection of data against my licence number. ________________________ Old enough to know better | |||
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They be reading all of this Muzz,you know that. Posts: 87 | Location: Victoria Australia | Registered: 07 September 2002 | |||
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Gentleman, correct me if I am wrong, but you are under about 20,000 pieces of gun legislation yourselves. Just one example you adhere to gun control acts of the 1930's everytime you register for stamps for short barrels, machine guns or supressors. So as to the question as to what you would do if "faced with the situation of gun controls" it is already answered by your daily adherence to the ones already passed. You would comply without force, since you are doing so as we speak  The US strength is real but its in its political and legal protections. Beyond that there is no recent evidence you are any stronger than other 1st world country for real resistance. There have never been mass armed responses, no storming city hall with guns and overturning any bad laws etc in your country , as in mine. No offence but I get a little tired of both the tough talk and mock sympathy from Americans on these issues. You guys have enough problems with unfair laws and tryanny in your own backyard. You have an incarceration rate 5x higher than the rest of the 1st world. 1 in 5 prisoners on the planet is now an American citizen, your government is putting more of its citizens in prison than the soviets did, or any other country in human history.Your battle for freedom is already being lost. | |||
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Indeed they will , gryph. Unless I start preaching armed uprising I doubt they have any interest in whatever i might post here. But if it keeps some plod in a job then so be it . ________________________ Old enough to know better | |||
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Undoubtedly you are an angel muzz I`m sure ha ha. Plod will watch anyway. Posts: 87 | Location: Victoria Australia | Registered: 07 September 2002 | |||
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+1 99 percent of us gun owners live in delusional world of constitutional gun rights. The us Supreme Court in heller with Scalia righting the opinion allows for gun resignation, buy backs, restrictions on buying guns - basically all the gun rights nyc has Mike | |||
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your government is putting more of its citizens in prison than the soviets did, Is that a good comparo? The Soviets just shot anyone that was no good didnt they? Posts: 87 | Location: Victoria Australia | Registered: 07 September 2002 | |||
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You can expect a knock on your door anytime soon Muzza, your avatar must be upsetting someone somewhere and in our society today we can't have that. Now if you photoshop it with a burka our PM will give direct orders to our police to ignore you and she may even bestow you with a knighthood. | |||
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Yes me..I like the girls uncovered,lift ya game Muzz FCK YA! Posts: 87 | Location: Victoria Australia | Registered: 07 September 2002 | |||
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My question then is why aren't you already dead Twilli? Over 20,000 pieces of gun control legislation have been slipped into the USA over the last 100 years. Its the usual fantasy braggadocio of gunowners- defining a convenient 'future calamity' scenario, so you don't have to do anything 'right now', all the while accepting and adhering to current gun controls, daily. Gun battles are won legally. There has been no evidence of mass armed resistance in the US for any of the major gun controls, in particular the federal acts of the 1930's, and little evidence many US citizens will even individually break the law to resist anything. I'll use you as a direct example right now. You would never make an online video of shortening a rifle barrel below the legal length and fitting a supressor whilst claiming you do not have a tax stamp to do so. These are just like gun controls in Australia or NZ, IE ones your country has completely failed to resist and complies with like sheep. 'veterans' such as yourself twilli claiming to be prepared to die or risk life sentences in an NZ gun control situation, apparently find the risk of a little stint in prison to resist just one unjust law in your own country too hard So save the tough talk for impressing your kids. | |||
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What!!! people have something against Honda? | |||
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12 people die a day in US prisons. Choose your poison. | |||
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I suspect nipple rash from the friction on the t-shirt might be an issue - she could certainly hold them against me though ..... I wonder how many times she has bounced since I put her there? ________________________ Old enough to know better | |||
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