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My son's wife is trying to talk him into moving to NZ, I am curious about how restrictive the gun laws are there. Might be a rude awakening after a lifetime in Texas. Never mistake motion for action. | ||
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for sure. I will pm a gunny guys address , contact him. I just sent him a heads up you'll be contacting him. He is on here, kiwi something, I've forgotten and he don't post much. George "Gun Control is NOT about Guns' "It's about Control!!" Join the NRA today!" LM: NRA, DAV, George L. Dwight | |||
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If they do decide to move, let us know more, Im sure a few of us will help out where we can. Basically NZ is a hunting paradise if you possess two things, ! 1- a good attitude and friendly approach to landowners, and 2- a willingness to get out and do some hard work on public lands. No seasons for big game, or bag limits. Pretty generous seasons for trout and game birds such as duck with your licences pretty much covering the entire country. Firearms. As long as you dont mind only owning bolt action hunting rifles, you are fine. Semi Auto .22s and shotguns are allowed with magazine restrictions of 10 and 5 shot respectively. pretty much no semi auto centerfires rifles. pistols are allowed to be owned and shot on designated rifle ranges only. | |||
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As Shankspony said the type of firearms we can own is restricted, which is so VERY VERY different to Texas. Centrefire rifles are limited to a magazine capacity of 5 rounds, and you are limited to bolt action, lever action or single shot. For rimfire you are limited to 10 round magazines, but can own, bolt, lever, pump and semi auto. But of course you can't possess or own any firearms in New Zealand until you get a firearms license. While getting a license is a long drawn out process (over a year or more for some lately) for a New Zealander who has lived in New Zealand for the last 10 years and hasn't spent more than a certain number of weeks/days overseas during that time, it will be a bit more difficult for somebody moving to New Zealand, especially getting referees and also references from their home country. While pistols are allowed to be owned you have to be a member of a recognised pistol club, attend so many shoots and be recommended by the pistol club to get your pistol license. Once you have your pistol license you have to attend so many shoots each year to retain it and you can only use your pistol on a registered range. | |||
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As long as you can stomach the enforced socialism that we are being subjected to you should be fine. Me - I would move to Texas in a heartbeat if it were a viable option. ________________________ Old enough to know better | |||
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Funny when covid hit kiwis domiciled overseas couldn't get back to NZ quick enough, taking advantage of our free health care and no blame accident health care. many of these were the type that come back for a holiday and run NZ down as being expensive, no opportunity, no night life, nanny state ra, ra, ra, but complained bitterly when they flocked back here and had to do covid MIQ etc. How much have they contributed via taxes to our free systems that they were so quick to come back to when the shit hit the fan. | |||
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I lived in Australia for 3 years between 2010 and 2013. The wife really wanted to move to New Zealand. There are those that believe that Americans are free and those citizens of places like most of Europe, Canada, New Zealand and Australia are subjects. If you look at recent events, I would probably concur. You will give up a mountain of personal freedom, mostly to do with firearms and free speech if you leave the United States. Things that don't matter to most sane people like; prostitution, drug legality of use, public free (almost) education, free (because of heavy taxes) health care are commonly wide open outside of the United States. I wouldn't move to New Zeeland, Australia and definantly not to Canada. Might move back to Europe for a 3-5 year span, but that would be it. | |||
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Thanks for the feedback, guys. That's kinda what I thought. Never mistake motion for action. | |||
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Randy; I would kick his ass if he lets his wife coerce him into moving there. Thanks Kiwis, all of you, George "Gun Control is NOT about Guns' "It's about Control!!" Join the NRA today!" LM: NRA, DAV, George L. Dwight | |||
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Definitions of freedom can vary. Are you free if you live in a gated compound in Texas because you are afraid of other people or are you free in NZ if you never worry about locking your car or your house? Do you carry a pistol for personal protection in Texas because you need to or do you not need one even if you are a cop in NZ? Freedom from fear could be considered of greater value than the right for a teenager to buy an AK47 and mass murder his classmates. If you need a semi auto rifle to hunt with you are a damn bad shot and pistols for hunting are a joke. I once watched a (Texan)hunting guide in Alaska miss a grouse at 5 yards 5 times with a 455 Casull. If it had been a grizzly he would have been breakfast. While I personally spend a fair bit of money trying to get rid of the present government in NZ because they are basically incompetant it wouldn't be the end of the world if they were re-elected. As both my sister and daughter married American military men, I go there every year and am familiar with the culture and attitudes. I might mutter and grumble about the NZ government but if you like to hunt all year for free you are undoubtedly better off in NZ than Texas! | |||
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I worked with and for Air New Zealand for about 25 years and traveled there 2-5 times a year up until the Covid shutdown. It is a hunter's paradise and you won't find a more friendly and welcoming people anywhere in the world. I've been lucky to hunt on numerous private farms on the North island and made some really great friends (many of them on here). Being from California the gun laws were not quite as much of a shock to me but it would be more noticeable for a Texan. One of the things that I do with Kiwis who come up to visit here in the US is to take them out to shoot handguns because of their lack of opportunities to do so at home. In the late 90's I really considered retiring there in New Zealand but over the last 20 years the cost of living there has changed my mind. Frank "I don't know what there is about buffalo that frightens me so.....He looks like he hates you personally. He looks like you owe him money." - Robert Ruark, Horn of the Hunter, 1953 NRA Life, SAF Life, CRPA Life, DRSS lite | |||
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At least we dont have to buy our beer in the next county and sneak it home.  On the other hand, taxidermy is very cheap in Arkansas... | |||
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We don't have to here either. Tip one! George "Gun Control is NOT about Guns' "It's about Control!!" Join the NRA today!" LM: NRA, DAV, George L. Dwight | |||
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No, that went out in the late 70s except for some of East Texas; some folks take their religious beliefs too seriously; at least concerning their desire to push them on others. Never mistake motion for action. | |||
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Thats a good post, and I have been thinking similar on this over last few days. I think we have freedoms that some in America might not comprehend. And although I recognise that the constitution is a valuable aid to freedom, its only as strong as the will of constituents. While here laws can be changed with 51% of the members of parliament agreeing. As i understand it, it takes 67% for an amendment too the constitution. Not an impossibility by any means. We all are subject to some extent to the will of the people. | |||
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I have the freedom to not get sued - for anything. And if you dont wear any shoes to the supermarket no one will think anything of it. And you can hunt every day of the year and shoot everything you see. You dont even need to tell anyone what you did. | |||
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If you dont tell anyone, will they still beleive you? | |||
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Actually to amend the US Constitution it is a little more difficult than that. There are two ways to do it: 1.) Congress may submit a proposed constitutional amendment to the states, if the proposed amendment language is approved by a two-thirds vote of both houses. 2.) Congress must call a convention for proposing amendments upon application of the legislatures of two-thirds of the states (i.e., 34 of 50 states). Then: Amendments proposed by Congress or convention become valid only when ratified by the legislatures of, or conventions in, three-fourths of the states (i.e., 38 of 50 states). It's not the 2/3rds of the popular vote, it's 3/4s of the States. That insures that a minority of States with large populations cannot get an amendment passed that the majority of the States don't approve of. Frank "I don't know what there is about buffalo that frightens me so.....He looks like he hates you personally. He looks like you owe him money." - Robert Ruark, Horn of the Hunter, 1953 NRA Life, SAF Life, CRPA Life, DRSS lite | |||
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Yeah ok, its pretty stable. I think though my point is its still changeable and the people of the US are still at the mercy of GOVT. I think Im more commenting on the incorrect idea that those of us outside the US are subjects. Its an incorrect proposition. | |||
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. Am I correct in saying non Kiwis may not buy property in NZ nowadays or did I misread/hear that somewhere ? . "Up the ladders and down the snakes!" | |||
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What kind of property? There has recently been a couple of small changes relating to carbon farming which if I recall, makes it harder for foreign owners to buy land for the purpose of carbon credits without intending to harvest the trees. But otherwise as long as the investment criteria etc are met, no problems as far as i know. | |||
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You must trust me on this. It ain't so bad living in Canada. | |||
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As the old saying goes, "Better to live with the Devil you know than the Devil you don't." Never mistake motion for action. | |||
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Or here, even on Sunday morning... TomP Our country, right or wrong. When right, to be kept right, when wrong to be put right. Carl Schurz (1829 - 1906) | |||
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I believe that statement defines the 21st Century. Although…it baffles me. Politicians understand the concept however. They learned to exploit it to new levels in the era of COVID — a period of time that compelled me to thank God every day — that I live in Texas (and Oklahoma). ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Go easy on the cheese lol....New Zealand shoppers may be shocked to find they are paying almost double the Australian price for the same block of cheese at the supermarket. A Countdown-branded 1kg block of Tasty Cheese was sold for $18.50 in New Zealand. In Australia the block of cheese was sold by Countdown parent company Woolworths, for A$9.90 (NZ$10.88). A 500g block of Mainland cheese, a Fonterra brand, sells for $14 in New Zealand and $8.25 in Australia. Leave the kayak home...https://www.stuff.co.nz/taranaki-daily-news/news/128582269/oh-dear-theres-something-down-there-taranaki-kayak-fisherman-comes-facetoface-with-great-white-shark Posts: 87 | Location: Victoria Australia | Registered: 07 September 2002 | |||
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Not sure where that info came from Gryph. Just checked and while I didnt see tasty, their Edam was 13.50 a kg. Yep still more expensive but not near 18. It is shit though. All our supermarkets are Aussie owned, and they are profiteering like hell. Lots of people not happy about it too. | |||
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I read it on "STUFF NZ" today mate Posts: 87 | Location: Victoria Australia | Registered: 07 September 2002 | |||
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yeah most likely. if they found one block of cheese at that price they would report it because its sensational. I dont know anyone who would pay that and of all the good quality brands there is some ability to shop around. But whatever the price it is ridiculous considering it was $8-9 a year ago. but then we are getting record payments for milk right now, so maybe kiwis are paying current price while aussies forward bought or have stocks. The fixed price offer currently we can take now, for our milk for next season is around $9.60 per KG | |||
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Did you sign the contract paper for it mate? Posts: 87 | Location: Victoria Australia | Registered: 07 September 2002 | |||
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yep. crazy not too. | |||
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you`ll be able to fly 1st class to Melb then ha ha Posts: 87 | Location: Victoria Australia | Registered: 07 September 2002 | |||
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Yeah well in a perfect world, we would have had these high prices and a great season. But its not a perfect world and instead we have had the worst drought in all our years of farming here. Any profit from the last season has gone into buying in extra feed. And when the drought broke, we had a 1 in 100 year flood event. then back to drought again. The joys of farming. | |||
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That sounds just like Oz mate..cockies in Qld have had a 10 year drought and flooding rains. Posts: 87 | Location: Victoria Australia | Registered: 07 September 2002 | |||
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And looks like Aus will cop it again this winter. | |||
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Welcome Autumn rain is falling atm. I will be off for a look in the bush in an hour and its only then that I want it to stop lol. Posts: 87 | Location: Victoria Australia | Registered: 07 September 2002 | |||
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On the topic of food prices, I thought this maybe of interest. https://thedailyblog.co.nz/202...oAeY0RPn6YpFE-3RDFhY We do have a problem with lack of competition here. Two companies own almost all food retail. | |||
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Interesting! I've lived rural Alaska for 25 years, I'd like to think I've learned to live anywhere. I could move to Saskatchewan or Alberta tomorrow. There's unlimited liberty and freedom in remote, wide open spaces. As to foreign firearm ownership, I am the best shot with a double shotgun and a bolt rifle. I can imagine a long and happy life with no AR's or Colt 45's. A good bird dog, a decent job and a happy home for my little girl, an accurate -06, a dependable over and under,.........ducks on the pond below the house and deer in the hills above,.....what?  | |||
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Pretty much my dream too. | |||
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I`m living it in retirement ...this bullshit about people that retire and sit oo the porch with sfa to do and then roll over and snuff it seems to me that are not died in the wool hunters. Posts: 87 | Location: Victoria Australia | Registered: 07 September 2002 | |||
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