After all the time and years, you would think Guys would stop posting these hunts online.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1z6Sdnyhjk

Hazing animals, pot shots on the run under very borderline conditions, shooting young bulls. Showing the area you are hunting which is close to a hut used by actual hunters. And in all honesty in my opinion, showing the world you have no respect for yourself in doing such an activity.

the photo of the kid with "trophy" stag has a fence running don the hill in the back ground..pen job that one.

That rich kid needs to be taken from bottom to top on foot to see what its actually all about.

Yeah Gryph. That young guy would grow massively from a proper hunt in that country. He would feel like he had achieved something great.

Heres another one. I know the spot. Its the country you and I went into where we saw all those maps of tasmania . The bit with the helihunting is at 38 minutes onwards.
You know where we shot that Chamois buck I chased across the river. Its up on the tops behind that. It would have taken 6-8 hours to climb through that bush on top of the days walk in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnyVxS927BA

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Stopped watching half way through. Great shame - the outfitter, the kid, the animals and the negative image that rubs off of films like this of hunting in NZ......

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Originally posted by shankspony:
Yeah Gryph. That young guy would grow massively from a proper hunt in that country. He would feel like he had achieved something great.

Heres another one. I know the spot. Its the country you and I went into where we saw all those maps of tasmania . The bit with the helihunting is at 38 minutes onwards.
You know where we shot that Chamois buck I chased across the river. Its up on the tops behind that. It would have taken 6-8 hours to climb through that bush on top of the days walk in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnyVxS927BA

As modern 'man' becomes more modern the new ways will never stop.You want to see the sambar going down like flies with kids still in nappies.

Seems they are not so proud of thier efforts now.Original Video has been removed.

Yes a bit of back lash wasnt acceptable.

There are so many very stupid hunting videos on YouTube!

Yep, Sometimes I see what people are prepared to put their face to and just struggle to beleive it.

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After all the time and years, you would think Guys would stop posting these hunts online.

Greed, fame

They must have received some flack. The video has been removed by the uploader!

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Originally posted by Bakes:
They must have received some flack. The video has been removed by the uploader!

Err go back a few posts Bakesy.

How it usually gos is this.

Guide tells them this is only way to hunt tahr and its how everyone does it.
They film the hunt and guide cant tell them not too publish it because then they will ask questions.
They post too Youtube with commentary about how great it was, and we become aware of it and start pointing some facts out and sharing it on NZ hunting pages.
The Guide shits himself and asks them to remove it when hes made aware of it.

But by the time they realise they have fucked up. The vid is captured and we {the NZ hunting community.} get to use it how we like.

https://www.facebook.com/story...bid=2931447757009521

Yet how many "do it" and keep any video to themselves and never Youtube it for the world.
Its happening again today as you know it is. I still remember the cnuts that flew over our camp.

Its happening more right now than ever. Because the Thar herd is so reduced, they are putting in more chopper hours to get a bull. Last trip we heard or saw them every single day.
I dont really bother going high at this time of year now. Just too much chance of having it ruined like in that last vid I posted.
Im looking for Bulls on little cliffs and open faces in the bush where the chopper guys dont have a chance.

So what's new? 50 years ago I spent hours stalking a group of bulls on Godley Peaks trying to get within range of my open sighted 303. Chopper flies up, has a look at me, then flies over and bombs up the whole mob. They were just making a living.

Meat hunting in those days was the excuse du joir. 10 years after that the Tahr herd had been reduced to an estimated grand total of around 2500 animal, and the NZ deerstalkers did their famous tour of the nation with a bull Tahr in a trailer. Stopping at every town they could until the govt relented and put a ban on hunting Tahr from helicopter. You have to notice how every fucking time, its the helicopter operators who put the herd under threat, "to make a living" and its the recreational hunters who manage to get them protected.
later came the Himalayan Tahr control plan. The closest we have come to a management agreement- with out DOC, a newly created entity, having to actually mutter the world management.
If you read the plan it was meant to be updated 10 years after it was put in place. Something studiously forgotten and 30 something years later they are only just now talking about it.

That sounds about right, Craig. We have gross over-estimation of our sambar 'herd' here, too. I'd blamed the greenies but maybe other 'stakeholders' have had a part in it.

What I want to know now is: how good is tahr meat to eat? The backstraps of that one Michael shot in 2011 tasted fine but was probably the toughest anything I've ever tried to chew.

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Originally posted by sambarman338:
That sounds about right, Craig. We have gross over-estimation of our sambar 'herd' here, too. I'd blamed the greenies but maybe other 'stakeholders' have had a part in it.

What I want to know now is: how good is tahr meat to eat? The backstraps of that one Michael shot in 2011 tasted fine but was probably the toughest anything I've ever tried to chew.

Was it a bull in rut? They can be average if not hung long enough. Most is really good eating. Its one of my favourite meats.

One of the most stupid videos on YouTube was of an American idiot - I cannot call him a hunter - who apparently likes to hunt with another idiot, Mark Sullivan.

It was on a farm in South African “hunting” a farm bred buffalo.

You know, the ones that follow the feeding tractor.

The American idiot is fond of big bores, and had some fancy double.

The buffalo was standing a few yards in the open, broadside.

I know I could have had my eyes closed and still killed it at that distance.

He wounds it.

And both idiots, who love their self glorification on the film, spend all day chasing it.

Is that still in the hunt reports section?

Maybe you should create a seperate section where we can find "Darwin award hunters" Who kill thier own reputation by filming and posting stupidity.

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Originally posted by shankspony:
Is that still in the hunt reports section?

Maybe you should create a seperate section where we can find "Darwin award hunters" Who kill thier own reputation by filming and posting stupidity.

Links might be found in Cal’s report.

I have noticed some unsavory videos have been removed from YouTube.

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Hiked two weeks up into the Urewera National Park chasing big browns a decade ago, just me, 2 fly rods, a pack, a Hennesy hammock and a hip flask of scotch! Had choppers overhead every other day! Fly in, drop guide and client and pick up in the afternoon. One guide actually got all shitty with me for fishing in front of him and his client! Not tahr hunting I know, but similar sort of thing. You put in the effort, the hours and the sweat and a big wallet flies over you and f@cks up the day! Still caught plenty of big brownies but you get my drift (pun intended!).


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Previously we have done the yards to get into a remote bush camp only to have some cunts walking past our camp with a battery and spotlight looking for sambar.
We actually sorted them out.

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Originally posted by sambarman338:
That sounds about right, Craig. We have gross over-estimation of our sambar 'herd' here, too. I'd blamed the greenies but maybe other 'stakeholders' have had a part in it.

What I want to know now is: how good is tahr meat to eat? The backstraps of that one Michael shot in 2011 tasted fine but was probably the toughest anything I've ever tried to chew.

Was it a bull in rut? They can be average if not hung long enough. Most is really good eating. Its one of my favourite meats.

It was a bull and I think we hunted c. early June. There was no rankness in the taste, just a lot of chewing.

Yeah june is full on rut. They are not really looking after themselves at that time, running round chasing nannies etc. Also I cant remember what mike shot, but it was likely close to 8 or more years old. Like most things, if you want great eating, shoot something 3 or under.

Talking of hunting videos.

I find most of the commercially available ones are just plain silly!

Too much talking.

Too much advertising.

Yes. There are actually a lot of good amateurs out there just doing it and making great real hunting vids without all the BS.
You can actually learn more from them too, what works, how they approach a situation etc. Not some contrived BS about a rehydration system ( water bottle) because they are sponsored by somomne.

aah some of those amateur videos of the " hey look at me" variety are cringe worthy, in fact many of them are with 10 minutes of talking to a selfie stick and 18 seconds of something that led you to watch in the first place.
The longer their videos go on youtube the more money they make so the 'padding' is prolonged.

Just watched this one and enjoyed it. No nonsense. Good explanations of what they are doing and why. Thinking about what they shoot. And some pretty hard country and effort.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kctkx4UQc7Y

I remember being given a VHS tape years ago of a buffalo hunt in Australia.

Cannot remember much about it except some stupid female describing everything you see in great detail!

“You see Mark is now getting ready to hunt this VERY VERY dangerous water buffalo ! Mark is using a 416 Weatherby MAGNUM! Because Mark KNOWS how DANGEROUS this water buffalo is! Mark is loading his rifle now in preparation to face the VERY DANGEROUS water buffalo….”

I am sure get the idea.