I am flying out of Chicago on Tuesday to Australia on qantas. I was just on their website and they said something abot notifying them beforehand about ammo not the gun.

Is this really needed or can I just show up? I have all the proper permits for the ammo and gun from the Aus. gov..

Thanks

Ammunition (cartridges for weapons), securely packaged
If you are seeking approval to carry ammunition, please send the following details to dg@qantas.com.au.
Name and Address
Flight Details
Firearms Licence number and expiry date
Type of ammunition
Return email, fax or postal address.
If you are only planning to carry firearms, no further action is required however – the firearm must be declared at time of check-in, and it must be unloaded and securely packaged for check-in.
In all cases firearms and/or ammunition must be carried in accordance with the regulatory requirements of the State or Territory you are travelling to or from.

http://www.qantas.com.au/trave...rous-goods/global/en

We use dgenquiries@qantas.com.au

You need a hazardous materials permit to carry ammo on the plane,, you just show up with it,,, you won't be taking it with you. If you don't have your firearms permit as well you won't be taking it either,, you need about 6 weeks minimum for that as well. I hope you have time to get it all in order,,You have to have the gun permit and submit it to what has been listed to get the hazardous materials permit....

Seeker

If you have all the Gov't paperwork but NOT the Dangerous Goods letter from Qantas, they can and do email this to you very quickly if you need it in a hurry and they know about it.


The other thing I have found useful re the Dangerous Goods letter from Qantas is print it out / get a couple of really nice COLOUR copies.

When you walk up tot he counter and say your name, where you are going to etc etc and "I have firearms and ammunition packed as per airline regulations and here is all the Gov't and Qantas paperwork", it looks really impressive when you hand it over if the Red qantas letter is on top.

I have noticed it makes them realise you are organised, know WTF you are doing (they don't) and generally puts them at ease.

Hope that helps.
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The decision to carry your ammo is ultimately over to the captain of the aircraft. Just cos you have permits and paperwork is irelevant if the pilot says no. But you still need all that paperwork in hand. The check-in girl wont know shit about it and you should request her supervisor at the check-in counter

As long as everything is permitted and packaged as per airline requirements you should be ok..

In early July I learned first hand you're limited to 11 lbs of ammo.
I had to call my driver to come back & pick up the other 3#'s. No problem other than that. The TSA guy that rummaged thru my suitcase put it all on the scale's & we switched boxes around to get closest to 11# we could w/o opening any. They let me go thru with 11.5#.

Funny thing at destination & opening the suitcase. The box of .45 Colts had been tossed in the bottom & the lid popped open, spilling at least half the shells out. He'd just covered it up with clothes.

They never opened my guncase either direction. In JAX (jacksoville) I ck'd in, was told to notify TSA. Tried three & each one said "not me". Finally I saw an important looking guy in a suit watching everything going on and told him. "woman at the desk said I needed to talk to one of TSA's, they all say not them. Can you help me?"
I've got two handguns & two rifle's in a case that's supposed to be looked at. "ok, what's your name?" Told him, & asked where the restroom was. "I'll be back & give you the key" When I got back he met me in the hallway & said: "We don't need the key to open it up, I had it x-rayed, everythings fine, have a good flight".

This was my first flight with guns.
George

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Originally posted by muzza:
The decision to carry your ammo is ultimately over to the captain of the aircraft. Just cos you have permits and paperwork is irelevant if the pilot says no. But you still need all that paperwork in hand. The check-in girl wont know shit about it and you should request her supervisor at the check-in counter

but no airline captain would ever refuse...

Dunno about that Matt. Do you want to be the one to first experience it ?

Read the appropriate section of the IATA Regulations - it says quite plainly that the final decision rests with the aircraft Captain.

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Dunno about that Matt. Do you want to be the one to first experience it ?

Well if Matt's going to be the first one to experience it, does that mean it hasn't happened before??

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Originally posted by muzza:
Dunno about that Matt. Do you want to be the one to first experience it ?

Read the appropriate section of the IATA Regulations - it says quite plainly that the final decision rests with the aircraft Captain.

I know what the regulations say mate and they CAN refuse anyone or anything coming on board their aircraft!! This MAY be an issue with a small air charter operator/pilot, who may be a dick and refuse the firearm or ammo or whatever but I asked a Qantas captain who I know about this and he said that there is virtually no chance a jet airline captain would refuse an item like a firearm or ammo from being loaded into his hold... certainly not if he wants to keep his job, long-term. That is how it was explained to me. There are plenty of bigger things to worry about mate!!!