ok so this is probably the wrong forum so sue me anyone loading for these neat little rifles I have tried AR2205 in my BSA with 120gr bullets and it is a bit dirty I was thinking of trying some slower pistol powders anyone got some ideas?

Hi smlekid
I have checked out nick Harvey's reloading manual and here it is:
Nobels revolver no1 starting load 8.3 grains for mv 1160 MAX load 8.6 for mv 1266
Nobels pistol no 2 starting load 5.5 grains for mv 1230 MAX load 5.8 for mv 1330
Nobels pistol no 3 starting load 4.3 for mv 1075 MAX load 4.6 for mv 1120
4227 starting load 9.0 grains for mv 1320 MAX load 11.0 for mv 1500
2400 starting load 7.0 grains for mv 1220 MAX load 8.0 for mv 1320
According to the ADI book IMR 4227 is about the same as AR 2205 Alliant 2400 is about half way between AP 100 and AR 2205 so it's a bit quicker hope this helps
Pete

Mate,

I use the CBE 130 grain mould to cast my bullets from wheelweight alloy and have found 10 grains of 2400 to be 'just right'. 12 grains will give sticky extraction (damn the weak extractor of the martini) and 10 grains shoots quite well. I use 32-20 brass trimmed to .310 length and managed to get a set of Simplex dies sent over and they are very good quality. I shoot my bullets unsized and hand lube them after loading. The Cadet is what all rifles should be.....fun and accurate. I wish i had a brand new one.

Gee, all the ones that I have encountered stateside have been rebarreled to .22 rimfire. Do they come up for sale Down Under regularly? Might be a nice rabbit 'n' squirrel gun, don'tcherknow.

I use paper patched cast bullets designed for the .30 carbine in mine. Shoot quite well with Unique powder. Have also used .30 caliber gas checks seated cup down on the powder under a OO buckshot. It shot surprisingly well out to 25 yards. Never used it further. Great little rifles!!!

Telly

Sarge these rifle are still relativly common here although good ones are getting harder to find they would make a great little small game rifle they are quite accurate and according to WW Greeners the gun and its devolpment it has been used on the smaller deer species (rather them than me!!!) they seem to go for around $200-$400 Aussie dollars ($160-$320 US) check out Jansa Arms they have a few for sale at the moment
www.hotkey.net.au/~jansa/menu1.html

In the early 60's when most of the Cadets were imported to the US, there was the stupid craze to fix everything that wasn't broken....hence most of the Cadets were butchered and rebarreled into Hornets and Bee's and other such ridiculous attempts to create a 'custom' rifle. None of those idiots could appreciate the rifle for what it is. Fast forward 40 years and folks have developed an appreciation for the older things and now, the Cadet is hard to find unaltered.

The first Cadet I ever saw, my father bought in an estate sale.....already broken down but all there except the forearm. Dad bought it for $10 and put it back together. The one I own was restored in the same manner. A Cadet action swam up from Oz through a source I shall never reveal..hehe....and then a man offered me all his 'spare parts' from butchering a Cadet he had. I promptly screwed everything together and made a complete and original rifle. I love it and wish I had one in pristine condition. My Cadet is quite nice, not perfect, but nice. I have never seen a .310 Cadet barrel that wasn't in perfect condition.

A mate down under told me he had shot roo's with the .310 but he felt a .22LR was more effective! He said when he was a kid, they called the .310 the 'big rifle'!

Jumptrap my first 'big game rifle' was a .310. which I used on rabbits ,foxes ,roos & goats out to about about 100yds.Yes I have been guilty of having a Hornet convertion (which I still use as my fox rifle cause its so damed accurate ) but I still have a standard BSA .310 which my 11yr old step son has claimed as his own! I recon that martinis are like a good wine they mature with age