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After the terrible killing of 69 young persons and wounding of 66 at Utøya in Norway in 2011, the discussion about banning semiautomatic rifles has been a hot issue here in Norway. The killer used a Ruger Mini-14 in .223. A new gun law is under way, and one of the poroposals is banning the Mini-14 for further use and sale. That means that those who own such a rifle will have a periode of three years to deactivate or turn in the rifle. As of today, the Government are not intended to pay the legal gun owners for such an turn in. So to my question. If I remember correctly there was a buyback of sertain firearms after the Port Arthur massacre. How much did those who turned in their arms get compensated, and was there any difference between shotguns and rifles? I appreciate very much if you could give me an rough estimate in todays value. Arild Iversen. | ||
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I handed in a pump action shotgun during the buyback. From memory, all firearms, regardless whether they rifles or shotguns, were assess by firearms dealers and were valued based on the market immediately prior to the implementation of Australian national firearms agreement. Again, if memory services me correct, those who owned high end, valuable collections got independent written valuations prior to handing in their firearms. | |||
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You must have some private property guarantees in Australia. Here, the government would just declare them Prohibited and seize them without compensation. Grizz Indeed, no human being has yet lived under conditions which, considering the prevailing climates of the past, can be regarded as normal. John E Pfeiffer, The Emergence of Man Those who can't skin, can hold a leg. Abraham Lincoln Only one war at a time. Abe Again. | |||
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Grizz, I suspect it hand more to do with the fact that a conservative coalition government was especially screwing its own supporters by introducing the national firearms agreement and the buyback scheme. The government recognised that if it wanted gun owners to surrender various types of guns that they had previously legally owned, financial compensation was essential, otherwise non-compliance with the new laws would've been huge. As far as I known, Australia has no private property guarantees. Governments (mostly state) over the years have compulsory acquired private property for various reasons, but generally for infrastructure projects, such as road and rail lines. Under such circumstances, the government will compensate property owners, but I'm sure many of these property owners would argue that the deal wasn't done on just terms. | |||
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Spartan. If I read you right, was the gun owners compensated according to the marked value for each individual firearm, or were they valued en block like standard hunting rifle, standard sporting rifle and standard shotgun? Arild Iversen. | |||
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....from memory, there was a published list of values for individual firearms. Roger | |||
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Yes there was a set price for standard, common firearms EG Rem 760-7600, Rem 1100, Win 100 each one with a set price, or you could get it valued for special or extra valuable examples . I got a very tidy $5500 (I think it was) for a H&K G3 308, be lucky to have sold it for $2500 back then ! | |||
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Thank you Gentlemen, much appreciated. Arild Iversen. | |||
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A real damned shame what ended up with those guns regardless of what compensation was received. George "Gun Control is NOT about Guns' "It's about Control!!" Join the NRA today!" LM: NRA, DAV, George L. Dwight | |||
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IIRC there was a bificated payment regime. Those that looked a bit tired got a crappy price, those that looked reasonably new got a near-new price. Some cynics were getting old guns and rebluing them to get the good price. | |||
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I had a new ruger 1022 delux. I got the standard price for the base model and couldnt argue with the system. So i got shafted twice. | |||
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I handed in a Mossberg shotgun I'd paid $300 and received $800. The only positive is an otherwise appalling process. | |||
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I handed in a Rem 1100 12g shotgun (semi auto) 12 months old and received $800. I had brought it for over $1,000. So some did ok, others are still bitter about it (me) | |||
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There were many trucks like this one. My Beretta auto was in one of them. Posts: 87 | Location: Victoria Australia | Registered: 07 September 2002 | |||
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Someday this pic will become famous as showing just how much people are like sheep. Grizz Indeed, no human being has yet lived under conditions which, considering the prevailing climates of the past, can be regarded as normal. John E Pfeiffer, The Emergence of Man Those who can't skin, can hold a leg. Abraham Lincoln Only one war at a time. Abe Again. | |||
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Pictures like this is more than enough to make a grown man gun owner cry. What a damned shame! George "Gun Control is NOT about Guns' "It's about Control!!" Join the NRA today!" LM: NRA, DAV, George L. Dwight | |||
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