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Family dead in Australia’s worst mass shooting in two decades.

A family of seven people, including four children, was found dead Friday in an Australian village in what is being considered the country’s worst mass shooting in 22 years, officials said. Police are treating the incident as a murder-suicide and said they were not looking for any suspects, according to Australian news outlet ABC.

https://nypost.com/2018/05/11/...ting-in-two-decades/


I feel for the family and to all Australians who will lose from the knee jerk political reactions.


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Its been on the news but the media hasn't ramped up about it yet.


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Originally posted by Bakes:
Its been on the news but the media hasn't ramped up about it yet.


That's because it distroys the narative about "no mass shootings since Port Arthur, thanks to howards laws, etc ad nausea" that the Australian media trots out with smug glee every time something happens in the US or elsewhere.

Being a smaller family the Hunt shooting in 2014 was conveniently swept aside with an amending of a definition to suit their narative Roll Eyes

Of note though is the appearance of a new "ABC mass shootings expert" in early ABC WA media reports - a google search reveals whilst doing a PhD on Guns and the media - sounds like sociology rather than criminology coffee He's an ABC employee!!!


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Who is this supposed expert?
 
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Julian Knight and Martin Bryant are the fukn experts,perhaps the ABC should ask them for a few quote,both are mad as hatters.



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MSN [news]Australia has already placed a post ''News in Cartoons '' which are nearly all anti NRA cartoons, another News item they had, gave more information on Port Arthur shooting than the WA shooting. Gun Laws are already and have always been strict in WA ,one woman interviewed already made the comment about ,tightening Gun Laws.
 
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Originally posted by sambarman338:
Who is this supposed expert?


Initial ABC coverage included a quote about rising gun numbers since 1996 by Glynn Greensmith http://www.abc.net.au/radio/pe...n-greensmith/7347204 - lecturer in journalism and ABC staff member


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IT's all over the US papers and news too.
Even our little town ran a big article about it with pictures.
Gotta give the anti's plenty to drum up their bullshit no matter where it happens or even "just" a family shooting, only requirement is guns being involved. Even had that "Famous picture" of your guns piled in the dump truck. Gotta drum up Aussies gun 'confication' too.

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When faced with the loss of the “no mass shootings since 1996” narrative, gun control advocates start pushing for changes to storage and the number of firearms people can own:

https://www.smh.com.au/nationa...20180512-p4zexq.html


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....Urban gun owners should not be allowed to hold their weapons in houses in the suburbs and the sale quantity of ammunition should be highly regulated. Guns should be held in a secure lock-up in a police station and the gun enthusiast must provide two weeks’ notice of intention to use the gun, with details of where and with whom they will go with the weapon. They would pick up the weapon on the morning it is required and return it within seven days. No non-farmer should be allowed to own more than one firearm.
If, after returning from a hunting trip and handing in their gun, the gun owner takes ice, has a fight with a partner or a depressive episode, their gun will not be available to be used to murder in anger, depression or delusion.

In rural communities, as soon as someone is no longer an active farmer, because they have retired, are unable to work due to a disability or have sold the farm and live in town, they should not be allowed to own weapons unless they change their ownership status to that of a registered hunter. The same storage conditions for this non-active farmer would then apply.
For active farmers who need guns for vermin and other reasons, the security of gun holdings should be legislatively controlled. Thousands of guns are targeted for theft from rural or outer-urban properties every year by criminal gangs. 27,000 guns were stolen between 2007 and 2017. This is a horrific figure.

Guns on properties should be locked in a mini bank-style safe with a 12-hour time-delay. There would have to be two separate keys or combinations that would require two people to open. If there is an issue with a sick or injured animal, sensible policy that involves the local police, vets and others can be put in place to deal with this.....


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sensible policy that involves the local police, vets and others can be put in place to deal with this.....


Yep,la la land headed idiot!
Did he not stop to think that as we are a big country the nearest police maybe a days drive...or more away?

He can sit in his office and plait his boyfriends shit and do something useful for a change ffs.



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I only just read about this on another site. I haven't even seen it on the news.

West Australia has had the toughest gun laws in the country for a long time. Particularly not allowing military calibres (the West Australians might correct me on this).

Howard's post Port Arthur gun laws were going to be an expensive failure before they were implemented.

A criminal doesn't obey the laws. These shootings should be attributed correctly to imbeciles and cowards.
 
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.....can you imagine the cost, not to mention the incovenience to our already overworked police departments if you had to go to a police station when you wanted to get your firearms.... the cost to graziers if they had to get a vet everytime they had to put an animal down.....does this mean that anyone who has an argument with their wife/girlfriend or neighbour should have stress counselling and hand their knives, axes, sharp gardening implements and the car keys ( remember this is also a weapon you are licensed for !! ) to the local constabulary ??.....where do these idiots come from, obviously not the real world.

As a sidebar, here in the land of Oz, just recently we had a " relationships expert " telling us that we should ask our babies if they " want " their nappies changed.......there is intelligent life here, but we're just visiting Wink

As to the 12 hour delay, you had better hope that the fox or wild dog that's killing your sheep comes back after your safe has opened and your mate has turned up with the other key.
Using these guidelines, anyone convicted of drink driving, road rage and similar driving offences should have to put in a two week notice to the police to get their car keys and be subject to the same restrictions..........gee, doesn't this all sound a bit silly ??

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This "central repository" for firearms crap has been their catch cry for years.

If banks and police stations can be robbed think of how convenient it would be for the bad guys if several thousand firearms were stored in the one place.

Safes can be defeated by pointing a gun at the head of the key/combination keeper.........or someone that they care about.

These people are just idiots........and they breed, and they vote.
 
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This "central repository" for firearms crap has been their catch cry for years.

If banks and police stations can be robbed think of how convenient it would be for the bad guys if several thousand firearms were stored in the one place.

Safes can be defeated by pointing a gun at the head of the key/combination keeper.........or someone that they care about.

These people are just idiots........and they breed, and they vote.


Unfortunately its probably safest to assume it is also Greens firearms policy, the question then becomes how long before the ALP or Libs decide to pass a Greens "fireams security bill 20XX" in order to get Green votes for a crucial, at the time, bill of their own??

Worth printing a copy and pointing out how ludricous it is when next speaking local member, and then see how much of a party stooge they are....


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Someone who goes insane will find a kitchen knife, axe or car to carry out his mad design.

Whatever the cost might be of producing nation-wide gun repositories and implementing Phil West's program would be better spent on improved mental-health services.
 
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