During the next season, hope to make a Tahr hunt. I know when culled by DOC they leave them to rot. Are the Himalayan Tahr considered to be edible? is it traditionally considerd to be a shoot cape and escape or is it clean and pack out? I know the scavengers generally appreciate any and all donations, but I am looking for experience here.

thanks.

I believe usually if they take any meat he usually only takes the back fillets or a leg. It would depend on how high up the animal is taken as well.

Maybe if Muzza is finished stripping naked his sheep, oops shearing them, he will pipe in.

Now Nitrox , you know darn well that the last time I asked if you were sharing your sheep you said " No , bugger off and get your own ".....But I digress..

Eating Tahr meat? Yes you certainly can eat the meat . As my learned friend previously mentioned mostly the back steaks or maybe a haunch , depends on how keen you are to bone the rest out I guess . Also there is a likelyhood that Mr Tahr has gone freefall and bit the deck with a thud way down the slope so he may well be "tenderised " .

I am not the guy to ask these questions of , I live in the other main island so havent had any tahr hunting experience at all - maybe some South Islander can elaborate ?

Muzza

unfortunately I bet I own more sheep than you do too assuming of course you are not a Kiwi grazier.

Mate , if your current significant other is the ONLY sheep you own you have more sheep than me. Dairy cows, on the other hand ,are a whole different propostion....

Never fails to amaze me how all you tough heterosexual never-shagged-a-sheep aussie guys have endless photos of sheep in suggestive poses.... Some of you have obviously got short memories , or are still waiting for sex with something with less than four legs.....

It being a sideline our farm used to carry about 500. Now only about 50 to mow the grass.

Here's a new Aussie bs NZ sheep joke you probably have not heard.

"A lot of people think New Zealand has the most sheep in the world, and more than Australia. But Australia actually has more sheep than NZ.

However NZ has more sheep per person (per capita).

And it is the only country worried about how many sheep they have to go around too! "

We used to have about 30 dairy cows too, but thankfully gave that up.

Now produce grapes and wine.

Should stop hyjacking this thread I guess.


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Never tried tahr yet. Need to be fitter to climb those tall mountains being a flatlander.

I could never understand why the mutton in Australian butcher shops always looked bruised , til it dawned on me that the whole carcass was covered in lovebites , all of them totally covered - weird shit man , never turn ya back on an aussie if you look slightly woolly....

I would imagine ( to return to the original purpose of this thread ) that tahr meat would have the typical strong game flavour found in wild goat type animals . The small barbecued piece I remember trying at the Hokitika Wild Food Festival several years back was quite strong , but not anyways unpleasant . For eating purposes you would want to shoot a younger animal than a trophy father one I suspect , so unless you were fortunate enough to locate a family group , your chances of a real meat sample may be slim.... There would be a lot of meat on a tahr , they are a big animal , probably top out at around 300 lb ( 140 kg ) for males , and the female is less than half that . But you do need to be fit and alpine experienced to stage a successfull hunt . The terrain is very unforgiving...

Enough rambling

Tahr and Chamois are very good to eat, they only eat the best of tucker.
If the head is not wanted I skin from the neck down leaving the back legs and steaks attached.
Throw the front half away and thread the back legs through where the front legs used to be and you have a pack.
Have the hair side of the skin against your back so as to keep you clean.
If you want to take the head anyway put it in the pack.
I carry most of my animals this way if the cape is not needed especially in tough country.

Milosmate

Muzza every time I see NZ sheep on the tele it's wool on top of it's head is parted and two bald spot's on it's rump is it genetic breeding?

Geez - even the new guys are putting the boot in ! Whats the world coming to , I ask ?

Or more aptly , how come you Aussies take such careful note of all these minor idiosyncracies with the anatomical features of sheep??? Makes one wonder if there isnt a genetic defect in the Aussie psyche , although genetic engineering was started in Australia - Aussies have been implanting semi-human genes into sheep for the last couple of hundred years.....

Reasons why Sheep are better than Women: (extract from NZ farming newspaper)

Sheep don't have a gag reflex, or upper teeth
You can get a better grip on a sheep's ear
Sheep don't shy away from boots and leather
Cotton mouth is easier to get rid of than a social disease
Nuttin' beats mutton
Sheep won't argue about whose turn it is to go get a towel
Sheep won't drink your liquor, smoke your weed, snort your coke, and then tell you they have to be
home early
Sheep never ask if you're ready to settle down
Sheep never ask about you former lovers and then get pissed off when you tell them
No matter how old or ugly you are, you can always find a willing ewe
Sheep are never concerned about their reputation
Sheep won't tell all their friends about the time you couldn't get it up
Sheep won't ask if you're gay the first time you can't get it up for the second time
Sheep never insist on eating out
You'll never catch your sheep masturbating

Got to love the NZ'rs so liberal in thier actions .
Hippy from the Bush

And thankfully able to take a nip in the ribbs

Bravo! Hippy.

I feel slightly outnumbered here , but being a tiger for punishment we will press on with the sheep humour...

I am still utterly amazed at youse fullas anatomical knowledge of things ovine , although I am still also waiting for the comments about velcro gloves , and no-one has mentioned standing your sheep on the edge of a cliff coz it makes them push back harder , but I guess since you guys have bigger cliffs than us that one needs to come from me...

You probably also know that merinos have all those wrinkles coz most aussie chicks are fat and you guys cant have sex unless there are love handles to hang on to ...

And I am especially impressed that Hippy Hunter has the ability to read the paper before he wipes his butt with it , or did you do that in the reverse order again....

With tennis being topical at present , I suggest the ball has returned to your court

Tahr Tahr for now

No Muzza, you guys have bigger clifs than us!I've seen lord of the rings!!! In fact your clifs are SO big you imported a special animals to have sex with up there as normal sheep were loosing their footing. And what a feat of genitic manipulation, Tahr have that long shaggy goat to hang onto and Chamios have those neat little hooks to hang onto. WOW you Kiwi's sure know your stuff

Now Muzza we shouldn't stir up bad feelings between NZ and Australia. Things are just getting back to normal, ie we support the NZ economy by paying dole to all the NZ bludgers over here at Bondi, after that unfortunate incident where NZ made international objections claiming Australia was involved in the slave trade on the high seas ie live sheep export shipments.


When hunting in NZ you always need to be careful when the local guys want to take you out for the evening to see some red hot strippers. At the local shearing shed.



Why does the NZ government want to eradicate all the deer from the hills so sheep can be run instead? .... Because those "deers" are nothing but teasing hussies who are too tall and run too fast.


What's the definition of a "queer" guy in NZ? ...... He's the farmer that only runs wethers and rams.



Why do NZ sheep shearers love working in Australia? ..... Because in Australia sheep get fly blown and need crutching. All those lovely "girls" that go nude "Brazilian".



What's the definition of a "meat market" in a NZ town? ..... The local sheep sale yards. "Girls" available by the dozen.



Why do NZers prefer to spend their holidays in the mountains rather than the beach? ....... Because the "girls" find the sunny heat oppressive when wearing their "wooly jumpers".

I always enjoy the way you "we never shag sheep " guys have all the jokes to tell, and all the supposedly correct techniques to describe in details . I suspect you may be hiding behind a tough-guy exterior but secretly you have a hankering for a bit of good ole keep-it-in-the-family style sister and mother shagging to complement the sheep habit.

And lets face it , it was a shipload of aussie prostitutes that got a free cruise to the middle east , can't say I blame the Arabs for not wantihg that many shop soiled goods at a time .

I knew the old time favourite Bludgers on Bondi Beach would surface before long , always does when you run out of intelligent things to say. You might want to mention sport , although probably not rugby , cos you no longer have any trophies for that game do you????? And your cricket isnt that exciting , and we beat you in the netball World Champs as well , and if it wasnt for the Kiwi guys in your league teams you wouldnt have enough talent to field one team let alone get a game going , and then of course we can own all sorts of guns that you untrustworthy types have had to be releived of by your nice government to protect the rest of the population. Gee , they might take your cars off you next to stop you running over skippy and his family too .

Crickey ( to paraphrase Aussies most famous dork ) , there really isnt a lot going for life in Oz is there....

Once again - tahr tahr

Ps Nitrox - how much red wine did you drink.....

Come on Muzza you can do better than that

Why do Aussies call their beer XXXX?
Because they cant spell beer.

Why do Australian horses run so fast?
Because they've seen what the Aussies do to the sheep.

Some of the BEST

for the kiwi's reading
1.
An extract from Mills & Boon's latest New Zealand blockbuster:

We met in a secluded field, the sun nearly kissing the evening horizon. The warm breeze was full of that earthy, musky scent that only those fortunate enough to live outside the urban rat race know, and a quiet whispering of leaves in the weeping willow overhead added the final touch to the most romantic scene.
We lay there, both naked. I knew I had to have her, and have her now. Without a word being spoken, I moved to a position of dominance. I could feel instantly that this was what she was waiting for as she frantically thrust her pelvis at my approaching organ. I moved slowly at first, inch by inch, until I was fully inside her. Then as the tension rose, we threw caution to the wind and abandoned ourselves to the moment. Although inexperienced, she approached every change of position with enthusiasm, moaning with despair every time I withdrew to prevent myself ending it all too soon. As the sexual tension heightened towards the inevitable mind blowing climax, it was all I could do to hold out any longer.
Finally, the moment we had been building up to was upon us, and passed all too quickly. Breathlessly we rolled together in the now damp grass. As the last deep orange glow of the long setting sun melted into the darkness of approaching night, we lay there still entwined in an amorous embrace. I kissed her long and lovingly, and whispered reassuringly how good she had been. She tenderly and sensuously licked my inner ear then whispered 'BAAAA', and rejoined the flock.

2.
During a Rugby tour of New Zealand the Australian team are relaxing in a pub after a hard fought victory.

Three Kiwis, angry ant their teams loss decide to see if they can spark a brawl.

the 1st one walks up to Matthew Burke and says "George Gregan is gay"
Burke replies "yeah thats nice"
the 2nd one walks up to him and says "George Gregan roots sheep"
Burk looks up and answers " yeah thats nice"
the 3rd one walks up to him and says " George Gregan is a kiwi"
Matthew turns around and says " yeah I thought thats what your friends were trying to tell me

3.
I was on the phone to a mate of mine the other day.
He's moved to New Zealand as part of his Job.
He was a little pissed off at first until he realised that the exchange rate favored him.
So after a while there he got himself a big morgage and is having a big house built just outside Whykikkamoocow.

Anyway I was on the phone and every five minutes I hear him scream "green side up boys"
It was odd and at first I ignored it, but eventualy I got the shits and asked him if it couldn't wait till we were off the phone.
He apologised and said "I'm afraid I need to keep on top of the kiwi tradesman. They're laying my new turf"
4.
So the Commonwealth animal welfare committee decides to investigate the whole issue of farmers having 'relations' with thier sheep. This in-depth analysis will cover various areas including such questions as 'why? and how?

One commonwealth representative's job is to analyse the 'How' question. So he sets off to interview various farmers.

Starting in Wales, he asks a farmer about the method he uses with his sheep, and the farmer explains.

"Well, I make sure that I have by nice big boots on, and I takes the sheep, and places her hind legs into the front of me boots, and her front legs over a low wall, and that seems to do it for me"

The next few farmers surveyed explain similar methods, hind legs in boots, and front legs over a wall, or similar convenient resting place.

Finaly he gets to New Zealand, and talks to his first Kiwi farmer, who explains..

KIWI FARMER: "Well we take the hind legs see, and place them in our boots"

KIWI FARMER: "Then we take the front legs and put them over our shoulders"

SURVEYER: "But everyone else in the world seem to put the front legs over something like a wall not their shoulders?"

KIWI FARMER: "What! And miss out on all the kissing?"
5.
A nice Australian family are on holiday in New Zealand. They have rented a car and are travelling around.
They have been travelling all morning, and are looking to find a bar, where they can get a drink, and some lunch.

As they drive along they pass a man, at the edge of the road going 'Hammer & Tongues' at a sheep.

Obviously they are disgusted, and tell the children to look away.

Shortly after, they find a nice looking rural bar, they park up and wander in.

After sitting down and ordering some food, a one legged man hops into the bar, and starts masturbating furiously.

Well, the Father in livid, and goes to the barman to complain.

FATHER: "Well, I've seen some pretty disgusting things in this country, including normal looking people shagging sheep at the roadside. But this is the last straw, you can't expect my family to sit here whilst that man jerks off in a public place!"

BARMEN: "For Gods sake man have a heart. How's he expected to catch a sheep?"

Sorry I'm Having to much Fun Never tasted thar thank god I got that off the chest . Mayby we should start a thread on KIWI jokes .

Hippy from the bush (where there are no sheep in sight or cows etc etc but there is a all female nudist resort next door)

Geez , I guess this is what a wildebeeste feels like when he is surrounded by a pack of snarling African Hunting dogs...

I get the distinct feeling youse( or more correctly - ewes ) guys are picking on me , and no bloody kiwis are helping.... remember the Alamo and keep fighting till they wear ya down....

Actually who cares about the sheep jokes , send photos of the chicks at the nudist camp next door , although being Aussies they will all be butt ugly , wear combat boots and smell like zebras - but so does Bakes so at least he will feel at home ...

They're GP boots and donkeys Muzza There's no Zebras in Australia mate







all that education wasted

If you children are through, anyone actually taste Tahr? is it worth bringing down off the mountain?

And there is some humour to all these Kiwi-Ozzie jokes, I just dont know which country got first choice of the outmigrants during colonization. so there is oil on a fire.

Sorry mate - they were picking on me and I was outnumbered so had to resort to playing them at their own game. Its called cultural differances , although there is more culture in cheese mould than in all of Australia , but lets not go there.....

To return to the original thread , yes by all means retrieve your tahr meat . There are numerous recipes for cooking the meat , same as any game type meat . Casserole would be a good place to start ( thats stew to you Aussies)but anything you do with venison you could do with tahr or chamois I expect .

The Australians got a head start on us in the colonization stakes , although migrants to NZ had to pay their boat fares themselves as opposed to getting a free passage and guaranteed job for life on arrival as was the case for the early Australian arrivals .

Bakes - have you every been to the Eastern Plains Zoo outside of Dubbo in NSW? If it wasnt a herd of zebra I saw then some deviant had painted donkeys with stripes - although they weren't wearing military issue boots so may have been safe from molestation by their fellow Australians...

TTFN

THERE ARE AROUND 700 THOUSAND KIWI`S IN OZ,AND THATS NOT COUNTING THE ILLEGALS EH! MUST BE SOMETHING HERE FOR ALL OF THEM TO LEAVE THEIR HOMELAND MY NEIGHBOR IS ONE AND HE MAKES A GOOD HOME BREW TOO,PROB HAVE ONE TODAY AS WE SLIPPED THE BARGE AND HAVE TIME TO DO SO ...YUM

gryphon it's called revenge we gave them the possum so they gave us KIWI'S. And Muzza and there is nothin wrong with ozzi chicks with boots as long as they have hairy arm pits and hair on the top lip and look like their mother all the better.

Hippy from the Bush (drunk as a Skunk on home brew)

Now kiddies , dont you think you might be over reacting ? I mean what constitutes an "illegal " Kiwi in Australia? You know as well as I do that up til the 80's we didnt even need a passport to visit you , your Government was so desperate to raise the national IQ of your sad land that they took anyone that was interested , so we sent you the low IQ members of our fair nation and raised the IQ of both countries in one hit.

Nitrox - obviously you were imbibing on someone elses red wine cos you mentioned it was good

And Hippyhunter - does that mean you hunt hippies , or are a hippy that hunts ? - the fact that you bludge homebrew off a Kiwi is in no way surprising , given the number of bludging Aussies that frequent your nation . I should imagine it is an act of kindness and pity on the part of your neighbour that he allows you to be a source of amusement for him and his family . Cheaper than renting a video too...

Sad also that the closest you have to a trophy bull tahr is a smelly old billy goat , although if it has combat boots and hairy armpits it may well be HH's wife....

Spirit of ANZAC be buggered.....

with apologies to HH and gryphon on the confusion over who has the best neigbour , although obviously both of you drink free beer , even from a Kiwi...

Muzza

Keep working at it. I know you feel outnumbered here, but one day you may find another NZer who can read and type. Maybe even both at the same time.

It must be annoying for you guys respective wives to have to keep coming back and typing your posts all the time - at least I manage to tipe mi ownn sum of tha tymme ann kan sorttiv spel most of tha wurds correkt....

muzza I was a suit that turned hippy that hunts simple enough . It's been a long time since I stirred a KIWI up before, every time I see one it's been a client or office worker you just can not walk up to them and go BAAAA !!! Very unprofessional We all have fun you have that little tag "I support blah blah blah ". I see a KIWI and instantly I think of JOKE. My father was in WW2 the stories he told about the practical jokes between the Australians and New Zealanders apart some of them were extremely dangerous they were without any malice. Now you don't see that between any other country do you ? Bloody good relationship between two countries if you ask me pity no other country understands it.

Hippy from the bush

you imply that we understand it ? I was just enduring it because you guys seem to be so easily amused...

But you are right , other nationalities dont have the same Colonial sense of humour to begin with ( some Canadians do but mostley the prairie province guys )and I have seen a group of Aussies and Kiwis at an international cartridge show in Chicago being their usual selves and the humour went miles above the heads of the crowd of Americans who had gathered to watch and listen to the guys who talk funny - which made it even more hilarious cos they thought we were making jokes for them when we were really making jokes about them...

Bet it is a long time since your missus knitted anything out of pure virgin wool tho....