08 April 2004, 21:26
BakesADI's updated reloading info
ADI08 April 2004, 23:14
muzzaI like the format of that information . Good range of cartridges and a variety of loadings .Very helpfull.
08 April 2004, 23:27
Bad Ass WallaceSame loads. I only found the 340 Weatherby loads to chronograph truely.
When I emailed ADI re their poupy load data, I was informed that many were only caculated by computer!
The .404 Jeff loads look very tame and there max !!
09 April 2004, 02:48
Weatherby223ADI list the .223rem using BM1 and 40gn Bullets maximum to be only 26gns. I use 27gns without any problem. Nick Harvey's Reloading book states that his maximum is 27.5 with same powder and bullet. Wonder who is more credible here.
Happy Hunting..
Mick
09 April 2004, 03:07
BakesI don't think its an issue of who's more credible, perhaps ADI is erring on the side of caution?
09 April 2004, 11:04
muzzaI beleive that ADI are following the American reloading Manual method of supplying safe load data
and covering their arse in relation to legal contest if something goes wrong using that data . The US loading manuals from the 1950's list much hotter loads than current ones , all because of the litigation debacle that exists today.
Everyone who reloads is obliged to work out for themselves what is "safe" for their rifle , and the printed data is only a guide to start at .
The ADI loads for the Marlin 45/70 list a 300gr at 2400fps. Anyone tried that load? I downloaded 8% and got 2200fps, I'd be really careful trying to get up to 2400. Also the 303British data (2nd edition) used to have a warning to reduce loads by 2gr for SMLE and No.4s as data was worked up for P-14 actions. The 3rd edition manual has no warning and some of the loads have been increased! Safe loads? As always be careful of what's in print, cross-reference and start from conservative charges.
Cheers...
Con
09 April 2004, 13:59
NickuduThat's quite some barrel length on their .500 Jeffery.
They should get 2300fps with just a primer.
09 April 2004, 14:09
Bad Ass WallaceProbably a spotting round for a Leopard tank ??????
09 April 2004, 14:58
BakesCon as I recall that load has been identified as a miss print. It was bought up in Nick Harvey's "ask the guru" section of Sporting Shooter.
Bakes,
No problem... but if it's a genuine missprint then why hasn't it been pulled off the website? Big companies move in strange ways...
Con
09 April 2004, 22:28
muzzaHas anyone e-mailed ADI and told them of the continuing error...? Maybe they dont know.
09 April 2004, 22:43
Bad Ass WallaceI emailed them all the data I had on various calibres that I had chronoghaphed and got a "thanks but no thanks"
"Individual rifles may perform different to our published figures and shooters should start 10% ......."
I emailed them to have a whinge about it.
Once they change that we can get down to the real thorns in the sides of discerning big bore reloaders-
'Cartridges of the world'.
Someone tell me they have fixed ackleys load data.Great guy.But he should have been hung out to dry with the 475 A&M claims.
Karl.
09 April 2004, 23:59
geekayThe ADI (Mulwex?) 2nd Edition was compiled 10+ years ago in collabboration with Nick Harvey who was using the RCBS Reloading CD which guesstimates a range of loads based on the data from one tested load. All subsequent editions are just tidied up versions. Of course ADI does a lot of load testing but don'rt appear to have done any load developement.
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