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Which 223 rifle for 200/300 m target shooting?
24 March 2007, 03:31
wildboarWhich 223 rifle for 200/300 m target shooting?
Hi, I'm planning to buy a new rifle in a small caliber, but I'm undecided between a Savage, a Tikka or....; what are your opinions? Thanks.
24 March 2007, 06:14
308SakoWildboar, I would think that if the cost is approximately the same the Tikka might well satisfy to a greater extent all else being equal.
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thats a tuffy, but i'll go Savage,played with a super shooting bull barreled 223 savage with the accu-trigger, their top of the line model.gota say ive heard great things about tika though, shoulder them both talk to people that own one or the other or both,see which one flys your kite!,regards jjmp

07 May 2007, 06:35
Idaho SharpshooterSavage, in a landslide...6oz new accu-trigger, single shot platform, option of a right bolt-left port setup, 1:9" twist...no close second. Mine will stay right at an inch at 300yds with the Nosler Competition bullets.
Rich
DRSS
07 May 2007, 18:53
butchlambertI would definitely go with the Savage.
Butch
08 May 2007, 05:06
woodseyeI'm partial to the savage for money spent vs accuracy. Not much to headspace and swap your own barrels, and its easy to tune the accu trigger down to where you like it for pull. The laminate stocks are much preferred for accuracy and just a simple "skim coat" bedding job to level around the pillars and behind the recoil lug is all needed. A very shooter friendly rifle with easy bolt head swaps and available machined recoil lugs.
Any of the varmint or tactical rifles will usually shoot 1/2" or better with handloads....even with the factory barrel. Some shoot
much better!
woods
Savage ML'er....... a New Generation Traditionalist....... Thanks to Henry Ball
11 May 2007, 05:01
Doc HighwallSavage makes the model 12 with left port right bolt in 1 in 9" twist and 1 in 7" twist. I would go with the 1 in 7" twist to shoot 80gr. sierra's with 25grs.Varget and federal 205m primers. This is very comparable to shooting a 308Win. with 155 Sierra's.I have used this load out to 1000yds. What is nice is you dont get beat up after a days shooting. My Rem40x left hand prone gun has shot a .204" 5 shot group at 100yds. in a bench rest match with this load.
Go SAVAGE !. I have a few Savage's some old and a few new . I also have a Tikka although not in .223 .
For no other reason Savage is still an American Company that produces dam good products .
I fear the day when the USA will no longer manufacture firearms and we become dependent on those Foreign devils for such things !.
That will indeed be a SAD day !.
Chinese junk abounds in every store along with several other countries crap !.
The new motto : Oh it's cheap enough even if I had to buy it 2 - 3 times !!. Pisses me off to no end !. Buy an American made and keep a Neighbor employed !.
Yea kind of like the Oil Company's HUH !.
That's another story all together ...

I own an AR and find it relativly accurate for open sights at those ranges. I hit paper at 500 yards with open sights. I have a scope for it as well however I like shooting it open sights more so I havent even tried to sight it in.
14 May 2007, 17:01
wildboarquote:
Originally posted by Tony R:
I own an AR.....
What is an AR?

15 May 2007, 00:34
wildboarquote:
Originally posted by Dr.K:
.... Buy an American made and keep a Neighbor employed !
I understand your concern, but I'm Italian...

Sorry about that !. Buy a Beretta !. Tikka , Savage what ever you like !.
I own a few different Italian weapons not a thing wrong with any of them !. Nor with the People who make them , food or Women or the Country for that matter .
I like Italians and Italy beautiful place !. From what I have seen of it . ...

17 May 2007, 19:20
reloadermanI've got a Tikka Varmiter in .223, it loves 60 gr V-Max's and it's a tack driver! For the money it's the best "out-of-the-box" varmiter.
Shovel ready.....
but hangin' on
16 July 2007, 19:53
nwwashi have a savage model 12 in 223,26 inch factory stainless fluted heavy barrel,and accu trigger. with my handloads it shots really well( .45 of an inch) i also own a tika and i like both of them equally as well.tikas do shoot very well.
even tho i personally agree with dr k, buy what you want. savage and rugers are my personal first choices.
if you can afford to build a custom rifel, i would recomend that. good luck and enjoy
Take a look at the CZ. You won't be sorry.
Pete
"Be kind to your neighbor, he knows where you live."
20 July 2007, 01:21
Idaho SharpshooterSavage has a lot of records in F Class. The Accu-Trigger is the deal maker for me. In 308 they own the CBA (Cast Bullet Assn) production class records; mostly 308's.
Rich
DRSS