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Enough glass?
03 September 2010, 05:45
homebrewerEnough glass?
Would a 12X scope be powerful enough to shoot at a five-inch target spot at 500 yards and have any hopes to hit it reliably? My gun shoots just under half-minute if I'm on the stick. Thanks.
03 September 2010, 07:29
PeterI don't know the answer, but why 5"? That's about the size of a clay bird. I suspect that the crosshairs unless fine, would make bisecting the target rather difficult. Last time, I used the 8" shoot n' see targets. just didn't want to get back to the bench and find out I couldn't see the target.
Peter.
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04 September 2010, 23:11
homebrewerquote:
Originally posted by Peter:
I don't know the answer, but why 5"?
Peter.
That's one MOA at that distance. My gun will shoot one-half MOA if I can see the target through the swimmy heat. I had this same question in the Optics Forum. I have my answer...
13 September 2010, 20:15
Panzerschmied
Hey 'brew,,,why not,,if the 'hair will let you see it and you can hold it,,'sides,,lots of old time shooters did it with 10X weavers and x-fine 'hairs.are you truely a "brewer,,,thinkin' on startin' m'self!
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14 September 2010, 18:24
homebrewerI forgot to mention I have a 25 moa base on my rifle. I doubt this electronic scope is set up to compensate for that. Looking at other solutions now...
Panz: I was a homebrewer about 12 years ago. Then things got hectic at work and I've never gotten back to it. I still have all my equipment and I'm thinking about getting back to it. I'm an extract brewer. I brew only ales. All that malting and mashing is just too much work. I do add hops at various points along the boil. That makes the beer much better than using just hopped extract or adding hop oils. My biggest problem was always sanitation. I'd try my damnedest, but always got that white ring at the top of the beer in the bottle after about three weeks of it conditioning at room temps. Doesn't affect the taste, but it's a sign of weakness in my technique. I will continue to ruminate and cogitate until it's time to formulate, then we're off to the races...
17 September 2010, 17:37
homebrewerWhat does everyone think of this?
http://www.theriflescopestore.com/sisisi10lora2.html22 September 2010, 06:23
Panzerschmied
10-50X60!!!!!!yeow,,the mirage at the top end must be murder!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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27 September 2010, 10:38
homebrewerquote:
Originally posted by Panzerschmied:
10-50X60!!!!!! Yeow! The mirage at the top end must be murder!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That's why we shoot early in the mornin'. It gets nice and cold in the Nevada desert where I live. Is Sightron a good scope?
27 September 2010, 23:00
Idaho SharpshooterGood spread. As far as mirage, shoot in the morning or learn to read it.
The mirage is the same, whether you are at 10X or 50X.
Make a mirage board and learn to read it.
Get a 12" square piece of 1/2" plywood. Paint it white, both sides. Then mask one side off with one-inch tape, every other inch. Paint that black. You now have a vertical Zebra. The other side, paint two one-inch black stripes an inch apart.
Drill a 1/4 inch hole at the top and hang it on a nail next to your target. Go shoot in the afternoon and watch the stripes.
They shimmer and wave, and then it starts to "boil". The lines begin to break up, and it looks like bubbles rising in a pan of water on the boil.
Rich
28 September 2010, 02:04
rcamugliaWe shoot 5" steel at 550 yards. I have a Leupold Mark IV, 8-25X with the TMR reticle. On 25 power the 5" target is still pretty small. I would think that 12 power would be insufficient. Also I would stay away from Sightron. The mil dots aren't and the 1/4" clicks aren't.....
30 September 2010, 04:30
homebrewerquote:
Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
Good spread. As far as mirage, shoot in the morning or learn to read it. The mirage is the same, whether you are at 10X or 50X.
Make a mirage board and learn to read it. Get a 12" square piece of 1/2" plywood. Paint it white, both sides. Then mask one side off with one-inch tape, every other inch. Paint that black. You now have a vertical Zebra. The other side, paint two one-inch black stripes an inch apart.
Drill a 1/4 inch hole at the top and hang it on a nail next to your target. Go shoot in the afternoon and watch the stripes.
They shimmer and wave, and then it starts to "boil." The lines begin to break up, and it looks like bubbles rising in a pan of water on the boil.
Rich
Very interesting. Never heard of that before. What I usually see is what looks like trying to see through water. 'Member doing that as a kid in the city pool? How I so wanted a scuba mask...
01 October 2010, 00:58
PanzerschmiedThat's why we shoot early in the mornin'. It gets nice and cold in the Nevada desert where I live. Is Sightron a good scope?[/QUOTE]
Hey Home,,what part of the state do you live? I love the desert in the winter,,never spent anytime in Nevada except drive thru,,heard lots of reports of great coyote shootin' our your way.The only time I liked livin' in So Cal ,( I workedin the movie biz) was when I lived in the high desert,,2 1/2 hr. drive each way but I loved the high desert!!MAN I MISS THE WEST!!!All I know about Sightron scopes is that everyone I hear from that has them likes 'em. 
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01 October 2010, 03:48
Idaho SharpshooterHB,
noted NW bench rest shooter and gunsmith Manley Oakley (Seattle area) showed me that about 1988.
The Oak, at seventy that man could still shoot well enough that you knew at a match you had to beat him if you had any thoughts about winning.
He told me, that at a range with grass, you could learn to read it. When the lines start to break up it looked like bubbles. The bubbles would "boil", then waft away in a bit of breeze. And then, for just a few seconds, you could actually see the target clearly. Shoot fast, and then watch for the next cycle.
Those old guys knew lots of stuff we are just rediscovering these days.
Rich