18 March 2008, 22:47
dsitemanEdmond,
Who's front mtd. gun, Bushmaster, GE, FN, or is it original French mfg.?? Looks very much like the ones seen all over the globe in U.S. origin helipcopters.
19 March 2008, 00:16
ELKMAN2It looks like a direct copy of our Apache!!
19 March 2008, 02:13
Edmondit does things your Apache can't.

19 March 2008, 02:14
Edmondquote:
Originally posted by dsiteman:
Edmond,
Who's front mtd. gun, Bushmaster, GE, FN, or is it original French mfg.?? Looks very much like the ones seen all over the globe in U.S. origin helicopters.
Guess who supplied yours?

I have to check but US bought the french cannon, maybe through FN who belonged to GIAT.
It seems we supplied our cannon for a project that was abandoned,IIRC.
http://www.aviation-francaise.com/MSO-TIGRE-details-canon.htmwe developed the gunship helo concept in Algeria.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack_helicopterlooks like a nice hunting rig
19 March 2008, 06:36
Macifejquote:
Originally posted by Edmond:
it does things your Apache can't.
Many advanced features as well.....
a) VNMF [Viva Napoleon Mo Fo's] Plays 150 decibal "Viva Napoleon" soundtrack through pod mounted speakers.
b) GCM2 [Gaseous Cluster Munitions Morbier] can be used as missile defensive chaf or infantry immobilizing gas bombs.
c) GAPAHA [Greenpeace Activist Projectile Absorber Hull Armor]
d) GCASB [German Crew Accomodation System Bratwurst] console mounted dispenser to keep them distracted.
Sure there are more classified features which Edmondo can't talk about.
19 March 2008, 10:52
jetdrvrquote:
Originally posted by Edmond:
it does things your Apache can't.
Such as?
We'd love to have a squadron join us in Afghanistan...
19 March 2008, 14:52
TrapperPquote:
Au contraire, mon ami.
"Yes, some helicopters can indeed do loops, barrel rolls and even hammerheads … although it takes a specifically designed ‘rigid’ main rotor system. Such rotor systems are dominantly found on military-type helicopters with the exception of a few civilian helicopters."
[from
http://www.rjhelicopters.com/photo_gallery.htm]I'm not a helicopter pilot but Caudle is (was?) and he says a lot of helos are capable not of an actual 'loop' but more like a backward somersault. And of course you may not have a main rotor when you come out of the loop - other than that, no problems.
Did I mention that I absolutely hate helos?? I'll only say I have many more takeoffs than landings in a helo and let you draw your own conclusions!

19 March 2008, 14:59
dsitemanEdmond,
I was not sure of course, but figured it had the FN stamp on it somewhere. Those folks are quite happy here in the "deep south" of the U.S. these days. Would venture a guess that the electric drive system is GE. We all know they "bring good things to life."
19 March 2008, 15:56
EdmondI found out the abandoned program was the Comanche, the turret gun was French made.
19 March 2008, 15:59
Edmondquote:
Originally posted by TrapperP:
quote:
Au contraire, mon ami.
"Yes, some helicopters can indeed do loops, barrel rolls and even hammerheads … although it takes a specifically designed ‘rigid’ main rotor system. Such rotor systems are dominantly found on military-type helicopters with the exception of a few civilian helicopters."
[from
http://www.rjhelicopters.com/photo_gallery.htm]I'm not a helicopter pilot but Caudle is (was?) and he says a lot of helos are capable not of an actual 'loop' but more like a backward somersault. And of course you may not have a main rotor when you come out of the loop - other than that, no problems.
Did I mention that I absolutely hate helos?? I'll only say I have many more takeoffs than landings in a helo and let you draw your own conclusions!

I have more take off than landings with planes

19 March 2008, 22:06
MacifejApaches do loops rather nicely. I think I remember seeing some other US helicopter do a loop as well.
20 March 2008, 00:11
ELKMAN2quote:
Originally posted by jetdrvr:
quote:
Originally posted by Edmond:
it does things your Apache can't.
Such as?
We'd love to have a squadron join us in Afghanistan...
Surrender???? I suspect it has a white flag dispenser too!!!