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Accident: Qantas A388 near Singapore on Nov 4th 2010, uncontained engine failure
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Too long to post up but a very interesting read, most comprehensive I have seen published.

Wing inner damage (Photo: ATSB):
http://avherald.com/img/qantas...gapore_101104_14.jpg

Wiring damage in leading edge of left wing (Photo: ATSB):


Fire Damage engine #2 (Photo: ATSB):


Fatigue cracking at stub pipe feeding oil into HP/IP bearing (Photo: ATSB):


The removed low pressure turbine (Photo: ATSB):
IMG]http://avherald.com/img/qantas_a388_vh-oqa_singapore_101104_11.jpg[/IMG]

The removed engine #2 (Photo: ATSB):


Zoom in of Combustion chamber.


Removed Turbine Disc


#2 Engine on Wing Detail


Zoom in on combustion chamber and turbine area showing the damage (Photo: ATSB):


Part of a turbine disk recovered in Batam (Photo: ATSB):


Anyway, you get the idea!
Article is to be found at
http://www.avherald.com/h?article=43309c6d/0007&opt=0


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Non-aviation guy hear, but I found the articles informative, within my limited ability to understand some of it. Did pieces from the first failed engine take out others?

It certainly appears to me that the amount of info flowing to the crew would have overloaded the ability of a normal crew to deal with it effectively, and disaster might have occurred. Damned lucky they had the extra help.

Us passengers merely read in the papers of an engine failure. Rather an incomplete understatement.
 
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Non-aviation guy hear, but I found the articles informative, within my limited ability to understand some of it. Did pieces from the first failed engine take out others?

It certainly appears to me that the amount of info flowing to the crew would have overloaded the ability of a normal crew to deal with it effectively, and disaster might have occurred. Damned lucky they had the extra help.

Us passengers merely read in the papers of an engine failure. Rather an incomplete understatement.


The shrapnel did not "take out" another engine exactly but it cut the wires that allow the throttles or the auto throttle computers to communicate with that engine's EEC. The EEC is basically what meters fuel to the engine and provides speed limiting to that engine. Basically an all encompassing "carburetor" if you will. That is why the engine was stuck at 80% power they had no way to shut off the fuel to it.

I landed at LAX friday on the North complex and saw one of the Quantas 380's sitting there with all four engines opened up. I'll tell you what if I was a 380 customer and had just spent multiple hundreds of millions on that white elephant I'd be PISSED!

Like Jetdriver said they are the next generation of curios roadside diners getting ready to happen.



 
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Originally posted by Brice:
Non-aviation guy hear, but I found the articles informative, within my limited ability to understand some of it. Did pieces from the first failed engine take out others?

It certainly appears to me that the amount of info flowing to the crew would have overloaded the ability of a normal crew to deal with it effectively, and disaster might have occurred. Damned lucky they had the extra help.

Us passengers merely read in the papers of an engine failure. Rather an incomplete understatement.


The shrapnel did not "take out" another engine exactly but it cut the wires that allow the throttles or the auto throttle computers to communicate with that engine's EEC. The EEC is basically what meters fuel to the engine and provides speed limiting to that engine. Basically an all encompassing "carburetor" if you will. That is why the engine was stuck at 80% power they had no way to shut off the fuel to it.

I landed at LAX friday on the North complex and saw one of the Quantas 380's sitting there with all four engines opened up. I'll tell you what if I was a 380 customer and had just spent multiple hundreds of millions on that white elephant I'd be PISSED!

Like Jetdriver said they are the next generation of curios roadside diners getting ready to happen.

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Being in the industry I am still unable to find anyone that will state the actual cost per hour for this monster to sit idle on the tarmac. You know it has to be megabucks - an airplane on the ground makes no money!


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