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Problems mount for the "combat ready" F-35.

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F-35 crisis as Pentagon’s top weapon testing official warns plan to put unfinished $400bn fighters into service puts pilots at 'significant risk'
Fifth-generation fighter has been plagued with issues
$400bn development schedule has stretched to 15 years
Weeks ago military bosses claimed it was finally 'combat ready'

By MARK PRIGG FOR DAILYMAIL.COM

PUBLISHED: 16:38 EST, 18 November 2016 | UPDATED: 23:12 EST, 18 November 2016

The F-35 Joint Strike Fighter has been hailed as the 'most expensive weapon in history, costing $400bn.

Now, it is finally set for its first mission - despite a last ditch warning from the Pentagon’s top weapon testing official that it is not ready and could put pilot's lives at risk.

In a memo obtained by the Project On Government Oversight, Michael Gilmore, Director, Operational Test and Evaluation, warns that the Joint Strike Fighter Program Office is simply cut short the plane's development phase in order to pretend that schedule and cost goals are being met.

'The purpose of this memorandum is to document my continuing concerns regarding progress in the -35 JSF program as you prepare to conduct the upcoming Defense Acquisition Board review,' the note says, according to War is boring.

It calls for the entire programme to be restructured so enough testing can be completed.

'The primary concerns were that the program appeared to be prematurely ending System Development and Demonstration (SDD) and was not taking the necessary steps to be ready for which will be conducted using realistic combat missions fully consistent with our war plans and threat assessments.'

It lists the problems faced, including everything from a lack of testing on guns to issues with the head mounted displays pilots will use in combat.

Taking incompletely developed F-35s into combat will, Gilmore says, place pilots at 'significant risk.'

'If the program continues with plans to close out SDD prematurely, it will carry the high risk of failing and having to repeat the approximately $300-million operational test, and failing for many years to provide the full combat capability Block 3F has long been meant and claimed to provide.

'Finally, the combination of unfnished SDD work and the likely follow-on Operational test would significantly delay, and increase the cost of, achieving the important capabilities which are urgently needed to counter current and emerging threats.

'I therefore recommend very strongly that the program be restructured now and provided the additional resources it clearly requires to deliver its long-planned and sorely needed full Block 3F combat capability.'

The Marines will begin moving 16 F-35Bs to Iwakuni Air Station in Japan early next year, it has been revealed.


The Marines will be the first force to deploy the Lockheed Martin jet aboard the USS Wasp next year, and will deploy a second contingent soon after, aboard the USS Essex.

'We will learn from that, and see what capabilities we need to further develop,' said Marine Lt. Gen. Robert Walsh, the commanding general of the Marines' Combat Development Command, according toDefense One.

'A lot of it's going to be the school of hard knocks.'

The jets will deploy as part of Marine Fighter Attack Squadron 121 in early 2017, a Marine spokeswoman said.

At year's end, six of that squadron's planes will attach to the 31st Marine Expeditionary Unit.

Following over a decade of de and with a price tag of $400 billion for 2,457 planes, the fifth-generation fighter has been plagued with issues.

But it appeared the tide had finally turned earlier this year when the U.S. Air Force has declared an initial squadron of Lockheed Martin Corp F-35A fighter jets ready for combat.

Now, the Pentagon's director of operational testing has poured cold water on the announcement, slamming the planes readiness.

Michael Gilmore, stated the F-35 is 'actually not on a path toward success but instead on a path toward failing to deliver' the plane's full combat capabilities on time, according to Bloomberg.

Gilmore also said the plane is 'running out of time and money' to address deficiencies

'Achieving full combat capability with the Joint Strike Fighter is at substantial risk' of not occurring before development is supposed to end and realistic combat testing begins, he said of the F-35.

'The program is not doing everything they wanted it to do ... But they're at a point now where it is stabilizing and so it is progress,' said Todd Harrison, a defense analyst at the Center for Strategic and International Studies

Officials say the F-35 will give the U.S. military the ability to detect enemy aircraft and other threats far beyond current ranges, allowing the jets to strike targets and disappear long before they are detected.

The U.S. Air Force plans to buy a total of 1,763 F-35A conventional takeoff and landing jets in coming years and will operate the largest F-35 fleet in the world.

Air Force General Herbert Carlisle, commander of Air Combat Command, said work to upgrade the jet would continue in areas such as software, making the displays more intuitive and boosting the ability to share information between aircraft.

The aircraft could provide basic air support at this point but did not have everything the final version would, such as an infrared pointer, Carlisle said, adding that he would try to get the jets deployed to Europe and the Pacific within 18 months.

Lockheed is building three models of the F-35 Lightning II for the U.S. military and 10 countries that have already ordered the jets: Britain, Australia, Norway, Italy, Turkey, Denmark, the Netherlands, Israel, South Korea and Japan.

The Pentagon's F-35 program office said it remained in negotiations with Lockheed over long-delayed contracts for the next two batches of F-35 jets, deals worth about $15 billion.

'We're seeking a fair deal for the F-35 enterprise and industry,' said F-35 program spokesman Joe DellaVedova.

The program, launched in 2001, has made strides in recent years after huge cost overruns and technical problems that sent the project's cost up nearly 70 percent.

Problems with the fighter jet included issues with the radar software and increased risk of neck injury to lower-weight pilots when they ejected from the aircraft.

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Officials say the F-35 will give the U.S. military the ability to detect enemy aircraft and other threats far beyond current ranges, allowing the jets to strike targets and disappear long before they are detected.


Hope so becuse if it is caught out in the open by another fighter, the F-35 is toast. Maybe they can convert all the F-35s into drones and then build Silent Eagles and develop a Silent Viper......
 
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We need some creative minds and quick. Carrying on with the F-35 is going to destroy our air superiority.


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Guess we're still suckered in there as well.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com...raw/article28897002/

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We need some creative minds and quick. Carrying on with the F-35 is going to destroy our air superiority.


This turd needs to be flushed. Retool for the F-22 and Carry on.



 
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Mmmm.

Australia is committed to these.

Maybe adding to a long list of defence procurement failures.....


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Looks like Canada is finally getting out of the program. Just bought 18 Super Hornets and opening competition for jet replacements, maybe

Canada buys 18 Super Hornets
 
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Smart move. Too bad we don't have that option...


Guess who's going to get stuck with the F-35???


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We need some creative minds and quick. Carrying on with the F-35 is going to destroy our air superiority.


This turd needs to be flushed. Retool for the F-22 and Carry on.


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Looks like Canada is finally getting out of the program. Just bought 18 Super Hornets and opening competition for jet replacements, maybe

Canada buys 18 Super Hornets


Actually, these are a desperate interim measure, cause we're so badly off, due to continuing government procrastination, we can't field enough enough aircraft to fulfill our obligations. Nothing new here, we're still flying 40 year old helicopters. Bet they're shaking in their boots in Ottawa, in case Trump calls em on the carpet for neglecting defense spending.

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This turd needs to be flushed. Retool for the F-22 and Carry on.


Good luck with that. It's way too late. Tools are long gone and the people who worked on it are retired.


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In the overall scheme of things, it would not be that difficult to re-tool and re-train.
 
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Look at the B-1A/B-1B for instance...


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Interesting counter article her: https://theaviationist.com/201...say-its-exceptional/

I have said for years we need to buy 300 more F22's and upgrade the initial fleet. Not to mention buying a good COIN aircraft like the A-29 for the USAF.


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I flew a trainer (T-1 Jayhawk) that told where all the other air traffic was and that was back in the early 1990s. It's a system called TCAS and every business jet and airliner that has been built for the last two decades has that capability.

That same trainer had the God's eye view of everything around it. That feature has been part of the Flight Management System of airliners and business jets for the last two decades.

Computer aided controlling has been around for a long time as well--at least since the F-16.

So all the things these four guys liked bout the jet are very old technology.

I am glad the stealth works, but we had stealth jets in the early 80s.

Now I am sure that the F-35 has very nice versions of traffic awareness, God's eye view, computer aided stability, and stealth; but they put it in a package that is very vulnerable in an air-to-air environment if it's stealth is ever compromised.

Now if the F-22 loses stealth it is still an incredibly formidable fighter that matches any other is speed, climb, and turn performance. And THAT is how the should have built the F-35.

If we had a nickel for everytime someone has proclaimed aerial combat has made visual dogfighting obsolete.......

Also, all those pilots were command officers and I promise you they know better than to criticize the Pentgon's newest fighter.
 
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Interesting concept. Perhaps manned high stealth platforms(like F22/F35/B2)could be used to command fleets of unmanned COIN aircraft. What if we took high time F-16's/F-15's and such that are currently in storage and converted them to drones? Remove all of the human pilot support equipment and strengthen them to 15 G's. They could outmaneuver any missile/interceptor threat. Stealth pilot could direct them as any other weapons system. AI should make it possible.
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Interesting counter article her: https://theaviationist.com/201...say-its-exceptional/

I have said for years we need to buy 300 more F22's and upgrade the initial fleet. Not to mention buying a good COIN aircraft like the A-29 for the USAF.
 
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But what about Skynet?

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There is no Skynet. Cyberdyne does not exist.





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