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Pan American Flight 6, from Honolulu to San Francisco, Oct. 16, 1956. Let's see Tom Hanks make a movie out of this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvagZxur7sU


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Every time I see this it amazes me that she broke the nose off and that nobody was hurt when she did.



 
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Good stuff, Bobster. Thanks.


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Correction from a different picture. It was the tail that broke off and the fuselage broke just forward of the wing but didn't separate.

Amazing how weak that structure was!



 
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If the aircraft was able to fly around the ship all night I wonder why they didn't just continue on to San Fran? Just curious.


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Correction from a different picture. It was the tail that broke off and the fuselage broke just forward of the wing but didn't separate.

Amazing how weak that structure was!


Agreed. The Stratocruiser had two pressure hulls (double bubble). One would think that would have reinforced the hull. The second film stated a wing caught a swell and induced a hard yaw. I saw the nose slap down hard. Perhaps with the passengers forward the inertia of the mass overcame the structural integrity.
 
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The claim in the second film stated the plane was unable to maintain a ground speed that would have allowed them to reach San Francisco with available fuel. They had already lost two engines and the pilot likely thought it best to orbit a rescue ship rather than chance another engine failure.

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If the aircraft was able to fly around the ship all night I wonder why they didn't just continue on to San Fran? Just curious.
 
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Outstanding piloting and recovery:
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The thing about listening to the Sully recording that really gets me was how the air traffic controlers on the ground were freaking out and Sully sounded all business(except that you could hear his brass balls clanking in the background Wink ).

I like to show the flight simulation to my 5th grade students to discuss heroism and courage under pressure.

I know that a lot of you pilots(especially military) can/have done just as well under pressure but seeing/hearing it seems pretty unreal for us normal guys.


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The thing about listening to the Sully recording that really gets me was how the air traffic controlers on the ground were freaking out and Sully sounded all business(except that you could hear his brass balls clanking in the background Wink ).

I like to show the flight simulation to my 5th grade students to discuss heroism and courage under pressure.

I know that a lot of you pilots(especially military) can/have done just as well under pressure but seeing/hearing it seems pretty unreal for us normal guys.


Well Sully wasn't just any pilot ex military or not. As his wife said later, it was as if he prepared his entire life for a moment like this. He wasn't just a pilot, he was a student of aviation. He never stopped learning and driving himself to be better.


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If the aircraft was able to fly around the ship all night I wonder why they didn't just continue on to San Fran? Just curious.


They KNEW They didn't have sufficient fuel to reach their destination with an engine(s) (not to mention that another failure would put them in the water FAR from any assistance) out.

As for Sully...
Glider pilots are taught to think of the world as if they are seated at the top of an inverted cone those Places UNDER the "footprint" of the cone are places they can go, those things outside of the cone are places they can Die trying to go.

It is kinda like the principle of "Deadman's curve" that Helicopter pilots are trained to avoid.


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Any one of tens of thousands of commercial airline pilots could have done what Sully did. All train for it. The Hudson is HUGE and relatively smooth. That's not to take away from Sully, he obviously did a fine job, it's just to say that the non-aviation world has no clue, especially the New York based media just down the Hudson.

If you want to praise a pilot, United Airlines Flight 232 might be the finest single feat of airmanship in history. What Sully did is not even close...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/..._Airlines_Flight_232
 
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