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Hand Loading UK only I load my own ammunition for my .243. My stalking friend would like to do the same for his .308, however due to his living space arrangements in rented accommodation this is not possible. I am proposing that if he supplies the necessary components, brass, powder, bullets and primers and the relevant set of dies, he could use my press to manufacture his own ammunition. If he is going to be the only person in possession of the completed rounds and he takes them with him when he leaves, I do not see there being any problem with regards to the legalities of what is proposed. As I do not have a .308 variation on my FAC I am not sure about me storing the individual components (not assembled rounds of ammunition) in my house until the next reloading session we have. Will I have committed an offence being in possession of component parts of ammunition not included on my certificate? | ||
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My best guess is given the UK regulations, as long as you were not in sole possession of the expanding bullets prior to loading, or the finished cartridge after loading, there should be no problem. IE, you will have powder and primers anyway, so your buddy arrives at your house with a box of .308 bullets and leaves with a batch of loaded .308 rounds. Just because you are paranoid, doesn't mean they are not out to get you.... | |||
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I reckon it's nothing to worry about overmuch, as sometimes you could be legally defined as in possession when you share a vehicle when stalking etc; Just make sure they go with your mate when he leaves.  | |||
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Good Advice from Brian and Steve. For the avoidance of doubt you could get your mate to buy dies, powder, bullets, cases and maybe even primers, himself and keep them all in a one of those plastic tool boxes from B&Q. He then brings this field box to your house and takes it away again when he leaves. It is convienient in terms of logistics, all he has to do is keep the box packed with everything except the bullets themselves, which are of course locked away, If he needs some rounds he puts the bullets in the box, pops the box in the boot and comes over to your house. It is convienient in terms of the law in that when you're done he packs up and leaves, again leaving you with absolutely nothing you shouldn't have! No rounds, no bullets, no dies, not even a specific powder for that calibre. Should keep everyone, even plod, happy  Regards, Amir | |||
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There is no offence in you keeping, at your house, "his" powder, dies, cases, primers. But there is an offence if you possess EXPANDING bullets, loaded into cartridges or not it does not matter, in any calibre that you are not authorised to possess. For the point of the law expanding bullets are considered as being ammunition. Indeed if you have a target rifle and don't have authority to possess expanding bullets you also commit an offence. So. If your friend is a target shooter and just loads either full jacket of target type hollow point ammunition ("Match King") then no offence is committed by you storing his bullets. You can store as many as you like. 10,000 to take it to extreme. But, if YOU have not got 308 on your licence and specifically 308 WITH expanding bullet authority you will commit an offence if you have just one soft point bullet in YOUR possession. Can you friend come and load up soft point (or any other ammunition) on your press, or his press kept at your premises? Yes. No problem. But, as another has so, what he brings, exact number for exact number, in soft point 308 projectiles he must take with him when he leaves, exact number for exact number, in either loaded rounds or loose in their box bullets to make up the same total as he arrived with. Can your friend leave everything else, dies, powder, cases, non-expanding bullets, at your premises? Yes. Even primed cases in 308 in fact. Can you load up ammunition in 308 for him? Say the morning before he comes round? No. Not with any sort of bullet. You will be unlawfully in possession of it. Can you re-size and prime his 308 cases for him the morning before he comes round without him being there? Yes. Or indeed the week before. | |||
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Yes of course you are right, it is only an offence to be in possesion of the soft-points as they are in the same legal classification as hand grenades and flamethrowers. My point was simply that if was at all worried the "field box" method provides total peace of mind, I am doing the same deal for Boggy. For the avoidance of doubt, you know  ATB, Amir | |||
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And all because of someone at the Home Office, FWIW, who wanted to tightre control on soft point AMMUNITION but called ammunition "BULLETS" in the draft of the legislation I am told! | |||
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That would not surprise me.... Bureaucrats are truly the lowest spawn of creation. Regards, Amir | |||
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I was told oe of the shooting organisations that this area of the law is under scrutiny at the moment as to why expanding heads are treated the way they are. Apparently we are within a year or so of this changing allowing people to hold expanding ammunition for use abroad. Rgds, K | |||
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Everyone needs an anorak mate to load up their ammo! | |||
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Are you calling Ian an "anorak"? Your calling the man, himself, a geek, a self-abuser.....an alternative energy natural-world bangles-and-beads type?  All I can say is I hope you have some very good and very hard mates in addition to the "anorak" ones....  It's been great knowing you, Amir | |||
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And a few lawyer mates to keep him out of Jail in case the law changes while loading up.  "When doing battle, seek a quick victory." | |||
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