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I am currently developing loads for a rifle in 8x68S, using Barnes TSX bullets (200 grains), which I intend to use in Namibia next July. The game I am planning on taken ranges from dik-dik to moutain zebra. As I am considering having the little ones (dik-dik, deiker, steinbok) full mounted, the use of a not so expanding bullet is in order. I seem to remember some posts here, where the KJG bullet was mentioned and would like to have first hand information about it. Would this bullet be a good choice? Should I use it instead of the Barnes? Thanks, B.Martins  What every gun needs, apart from calibre, is a good shot and hunter behind it. - José Pardal | ||
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Hi I have used the KJG for a wide variety of game with excellent results and now load it exclusivly. For more info you can look back through my previous post history or check this link http://www.lima-wiederladetechnik.de/8-mm-S/8x68S.htm I dont like the Barnes bullets as the quality control is poor and by trying to keep the copper bullets at copper/lead bullet weights you lose the advantages of the copper bullet. Mark Hunting is getting as close as you can, shooting is getting as far away as possible. | |||
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I have no experience with these bullets, however i am not certain that they do fit the bill for what you want. Check out the pics in the link. http://www.lima-wiederladetechnik.de/7,62-mm/7,62-mm.htm The bullets nose frag a bit and the rest follows through, it´s a modern H-mantel with better precion perhaps and a lot of dewelopment behind. Mr Möller is serious, however I do find his webpage a bit amateurish. I do notice that the damage differs between where the hits are just like with any other bullet. For shooting small, antilops, either go with a solid FMJ if allowed or perhaps use a smaller cal rifle with varmint ammo. I have no doubt that these bullets would work it just a q of price versus benefit and desired effect. Best regards Chris
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Hi Husquarna The nice thing about Lutz's website is that it is honest and shows warts and all, I dont think anyother bullet manufacturer shows this kind of detail. If you shoot a boar through the spine you always end up with a mess. If you go heart lung the meat damage is less than a standard lead copper soft point. I base this on 35 beasts shot this past year, prior to that I use RWS, Sako, Hornady, Barnes, woodleigh and Nosler. I still find it amazing that hunters will go on about expensive bullets all the time and this is not really directed at you but generally. I mean shooting especially Africa and trophy is expensive. If you shoot 20 animal well then the bullets will cost 20 euro. If the bullet fails and the $1400 eland runs away you still pay the $1400. I've been there and paid the price and its not good. If you want a 'premium' bullet thats accurate, requires little load development the KJG are far better than Barnes. If you want an totally intact skin on a dik dik use an FMJ Hunting is getting as close as you can, shooting is getting as far away as possible. | |||
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can anybody translate this page into english ? http://www.lima-wiederladetechnik.de/6,5-mm/260-Rem.htm, mainly the load data and can these bullets be bought in the uk ? cheers | |||
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Hi Chapster What powder do you use? The weights in grams and the MV in M/s. You can have the bullets sent to your local gunshop cost about 140 euro/100. Delivery is about 5 days from dispatch. Mark Hunting is getting as close as you can, shooting is getting as far away as possible. | |||
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i have Vhit 160, h414 h4350 varget, h380 cheers | |||
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I hunted with Lutz several times in Finland for whitetailed deer and used his bullets in 30/06 and 9.3 mm. In fact, all members of the groups did, in different calibers. They are very precise and light, therefore flat shooting especially in the larger calibers. They also kill well and destroy little meat, at least the deer which were shot while I was there. Lutz is very, very knowledgeable when it comes to internal, exterieur and terminal ballistics, you might observe that he never says things like "I invented these bullets and shot one deer which dropped dead, they work well", he rather uses a very systematical, scientific approach and tries to confirm theory by emperical facts. A good guy to deal with. | |||
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I would do that but unfortunately FMJ bullets are not allowed in Namibia. Last time I was in Namibia I took a klipspringer using a FMJ bullet, and only when the PH noticed the little damage to the skin was I told that those bullets were forbbiden! This year I don't want to take the chance, so I would like to find a suitable bullet, other than a FMJ. Thank you all for your suggestions. B.Martins What every gun needs, apart from calibre, is a good shot and hunter behind it. - José Pardal | |||
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Mark, you are absolutely right, how could one either bicker and or go cheap on bullets when there is a XX XXX USD trip on the line, however I was speaking in broader terms, like will I get the performance I want and at what cost? My point was that these bullets were not the most suited to the task at hand. Like mentioned above a FMJ should fit the bill. I know you like them, the KJG:s and they work great for you, however that doesn´t mean that they are for everyone to use. Regarding TSX, they don´t work for me, I get lousy grouping, I blame my barrel rather than the bullets, they do well in others barrels right? As for the bullets it´s self, I belive that a product should speak for it self, and it does, however the webpage could use a bit of management. Has any one of you guys tried these bullets in africa? /C
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