Anybody got one, esp the short barrelled one?
I might be tempted to change my 22wmr for a 17 hmr, and the short Anschutz looks pretty handy. I"m just a bit wary of barrel length/velocity loss. I like my 22 magnum, so I need to be convinced some more!
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A guy in work has the standard barrel anschutz and loves it to bits. it put in some real nice 3/4" groups at 200m. I don't think the 18" barrel drops that much velocity. I shot a 14" .22lr anschutz and it shot every bit was as good as my CZ varmint.

Here is my take: I have a .22wmr - had it for donkey's years. Since I got the .222rem last year, I have no use for it whatsoever. To much poke for rabbits, not enough for foxes. Too expensive to feed. Too noisy. Two of my shooting buddies have 17hmr's. I have the same opinion on the HMR as the WMR.

I plan to swap the .22mag for a .22lr in the next few months - when I do it will be a new Anshutz XIV. They are the dogs bollocks. Short, handy, great trigger, very accurate. Silent with subs and a Mod.

If you don't have a centrefire .22 you might feel differently about a mag rimfire, but if you do have a fast .22, the mag rimfire will only collect dust.

The .22LR XIV is without doubt the best rimfire I have handled. Of all the guns in my cabinet that's the noe I'd back to be there for ever.

Our local FLO is pushing people to get a .17HMR and surrender their .22LR's as he says it does rabbits and ffoxes and doesn't riccocet (sp?). I can't believe that they are giving this advice considering it is a bullet that when used means you have to head shoot foxes and detonate the bunnies... I'm sure it's great fun but the only practical use I see for it is for long range corvid control and the same on rabbits where meat damage is not a concern.

JMHO

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I have a Savage Heavy Barreled 17HMR and I'm VERY pleased with it.

I also have an Anschutz 22LR so I guess I can offer a comparison for those two anyway and had a 22WMR years ago.

The 22WMR is definately the Power King among the three and that with so much more power than the other two as to be comparing Apples & Oranges - it'll thump Foxes at a good distance, so range was an advantage but it never had the guilt edge accuracy of the 22LR or the 17HMR.

The Anschutz 22LR is a great rifle with a super accurate cartridge up to 65-70 meters. After that the accuracy gets iffy, regardless of the ammo I've tried.

The 17HMR is a phenominally accurate cartridge at any range, especially way-y-y-y out past where the other two drop off the edge of the earth. What is lacks is the thumping power for something the size of a Fox. The rest of the Rabbit, Rat, Bird-sized Pests I use it on never even know what hit them. I really like it.

Appreciate all the input. I can see your point Claret, but I don"t have a 22 centrefire, and don"t want one that bad(another cabinet queen I would"nt have time to use!)
I have been impressed with the accuracy of the 17 hmr, but I shot 18 foxes last year(18 dead only one lost) with the 22 wmr. It"s not a centrefire, but at 100 yds it stops them dead(usually)
I fancy the short anschutz 17, but the short barrel scares me a bit. The speed of the 17 is it"s selling point and I don"t want to sacrifice any velocity.
I might just hang onto my Ruger 77 22 mag.
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Brass, I can't answer the your question specifically on 17HMR velocity, but there was a long article in one of the UK mags a few months ago where the guy basically took some standard barrels and chopped them inch by inch and shot them over a chrony.

Peak .22LR performance was around 14-16 inches. I seem to remember he did the same thing for a 17HMR but I cannot remember the results.

What I can say is the .22wmr is a much more convincing killer of foxes out to 120m or so than the HMR. You are much more likely to make an accurate hit at 120-160m with the HMR, but I am not convinced of its killing power at those distances - unless of course you nut them.

I personally would not take a 17HMR for a .22WMR in a straight swap.

I"d be inclined to agree, the only real advantage would be an extra 50 yds of "bunny reach"
I killed a rabbit this summer with my mate"s 17 at over 175 yds, which is too far for accuracy with the 22 mag.
I would be tempted to go for a 22 hornet(or 22 ackley hornet) and gp down to a 22 lr, but you never seem to have the right rifle with you at any given time! The 22 mag is a decent bunny gun and a serviceable fox rifle at short range.
I will probably just keep it unless I can be convinced to the contrary.
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I've got the standard length .17 HMR Anschutz and I love it. Shoots a ragged hole at 50 yards. I've done some rabbit and squirrel hunting with it........it does some serious damage with ballistic tips.........not even in the same league as the 22 magnum. GET ONE!! You won't be sorry.