As Crazyquuick says, its all in the cut or amount of materialin the garment...

I would say that most "off the peg" designs you see in the shops or gamefairs, especially the ones in moleskin or cotton, tend to be on the skimpy side as far as material goes and I would say they are "breeks"...off course if you are short and fat, you would probably argue the same garment is a "plus 4"!

But in addition to the length of the leg, tradional plus fours are cut wider around the thigh/knee too..I know my breeks, while more convenient to wear than normal trousers with wellies/rubber knee boots, don't have the freedom of movement a good pair of plus twos or plus fours offer.

In fact if any of the British posters know of anywhere which does decent mokeskin, cord or cotten Plus Twos by mail order for us long legged buggers, I would be most grateful...The John Norris ones I have now were design for a dwarf I think!

Regards,

Pete

Come on fellows. Its about time we see some photos of you modelling these fine shooting garments.

Knickerbockers (leather and other materials) tweeds and tie are about the norm and I too wear them when hunting in company (see pics):

Nice Muntjac, Andre! Are you third from right in the top photo (the guy wearing "Continental" colours??)

- mike

Hello Pete,

never mind the sniggering brigade they only do it because they know no better. I get my +2's from this firm and am very satisfied with them. They are plus 2's as opposed to breeks so should suit someone like yourself, who is a little long in the limb. They are apparently designed by a shooter as opposed to a tailor, but I am not sure if they do them in moleskin or cotton, you can only ask.

I am located in Sutherland about fifty miles North of Inverness and one hundred plus from Strachan, I'm the one in the tweed plus twos

John

Right on both counts, Mike. Actually a CIC silver Muntjac I shot in Woodstock. The group photo was on a pheasant shoot at my former president's place (i.e. the gentleman doing the talking). I'm not that crazy about pen raised pheasants (1-2 x/year is enough for me) as it's too artificial as compared to real hunting (= behind my dog). Unfortunately, most formal and "chic" hunting is like that. As a consolation, the birds fly high and the shooting isn't easy ; we bagged 250 that day...

Well, I certainly got more replies than I hoped for and finally satisfied my curiosity. Thanks for all the great info.

Nice to se that so many of you use them! I bought a pair while fishing for salmon in Scotland some years ago, and very much liked them. Now I have a pair in tweed with some sort of gore-tex style lining. Here in Sweden, breeks are not widely used, so wearing them here is a statement of a sort. But unless it is a very cold day and I have to stand still for a long time, I feel very comfortable in them. I use garters, and I have the socks under the buckle. I also tried breeks with velcro instead of buckles, but that did not work out at all. Besides, I hate velcro on garments for hunting as I always fear they will make a noise in the wrong moment.

The important thing when it comes to length and size in breeks, is that you should be able to bend your knee fully without it feeling uncomfortable in any way and this must be tried with socks on.