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11 March 2010, 19:40
JJHACK
Lets see those Big Euro boar photo's
I'm planning a trip over to hunt Boar. Show me what I can expect. Please list at least the country and time of year with picture or more info




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11 March 2010, 22:01
profyhunter
You can look some photos here

http://forums.accuratereloadin...2100588/m/2361047821


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15 March 2010, 23:53
profyhunter
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I am sorry for quality of the photo.. CRYBABY


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16 March 2010, 00:26
mouse93
Slovenia

Nov. 05 - Shot with 8x57 - Norma's Oryx



Dec. 08 - shot with .30-06 RWS TIG - finished with 9.3x62 GSHV



Oct. 09 - shot with 8x68S CDP



Croatia - January 08


16 March 2010, 00:59
profyhunter
quote:
Originally posted by mouse93:
Slovenia

Nov. 05 - Shot with 8x57 - Norma's Oryx



Dec. 08 - shot with .30-06 RWS TIG - finished with 9.3x62 GSHV



Oct. 09 - shot with 8x68S CDP



Croatia - January 08



clap
nice boars!!!


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16 March 2010, 09:15
JJHACK
What a great thread for me, thanks for the posts, and keep them coming.




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17 March 2010, 00:42
Dom
Couple of Frischlinge from Germany, last from Hungary, all taken with 30-06 Big Grin Good luck on your hunting, Waidmannsheil, Dom.




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18 March 2010, 23:57
Jon2
This was Hungary 2004 under a near full waining moon. Dressed out weight was 96KG and 21 cm tusks.










19 March 2010, 18:39
profyhunter
It was just a photo-hunting.

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19 March 2010, 18:42
mboga biga bwana
quote:
This was Hungary 2004 under a near full waining moon. Dressed out weight was 96KG and 21 cm tusks.



Sellye and Jenö Jung are unique !


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19 March 2010, 23:06
Akshooter
I've hunted boar in Sweden and Germany But it was in France were I got some good shooting in.

Although not the biggest and in many cases not totally wild I think France has the greatest dencity in Western Europe.




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23 March 2010, 01:00
Jon2
Sellye and Jenö Jung are unique !


Seloushunter


Mboga

Yes I agree, Jeno is a special man in a special place. I would like to go back at some point in the future.
23 March 2010, 14:19
Fallow Buck
Jon,

How did your trip go? I wasn't sure if we were gonna hook up on your return, but I can;'t remember which one of us wasn't about?!!?!?

Anyway let me know if you are in this neck of the woods. There's always some kit floating about an a few fallow to roll over in the next few weeks.

Rgds,
K



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23 March 2010, 17:54
Inácio
In Portugal there are excellent wild boars.
Some who had the privilege to shoot.





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23 March 2010, 18:24
Monastery-Forester
quote:
Originally posted by mboga biga bwana:
quote:
This was Hungary 2004 under a near full waining moon. Dressed out weight was 96KG and 21 cm tusks.



Sellye and Jenö Jung are unique !


Oh, you know Jeno Jung? He is a good friend, like him, I like the Hanoverian Bloodhounds, we have had a lot of fun together!


Seloushunter

23 March 2010, 23:38
Jon2
Hi there Kiri

Yes I think it was my mistake and not yours - I got a relatively early train back which was handy as I got the norovirus from over there Eeker

It was a good trip and great to see how the french do it and we got invited back so I must have been doing soemthing right. Brother nor I got a chance at a boar but I saw 2 and there were plenty of roe. Good social time though.

Yes thanks for the invite and when I am next down I will make sure I give you a shout.

Until the next time...

Thanks

Jon
23 March 2010, 23:39
Jon2
Monastery

I don't suppose you know Manfred Moser by any chance then?

Thanks

Jon
24 March 2010, 14:08
TrackersNZ


Slovakia: Near Polish Border October 2008. 207kg. Shot from High Seat by moonlight. Fantastic.


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24 March 2010, 21:02
Monastery-Forester
quote:
Originally posted by Jon2:
Monastery

I don't suppose you know Manfred Moser by any chance then?

Thanks

Jon



Oh yes, I know him, but he preferes the Bavarian Bloodhound!
24 March 2010, 23:46
Jon2
It's a small world Monastery

Manfred was on that trip with Ken and I. Ken and I drove from Manchester to Manfred's house in Germany and collected him and then on from there to Jeno's.

Sadly Ken passed away (cancer) just over 3 years ago but I have very fond memories of the trip.

When you see Manfred next, if you mention we have corresponded over the internet and mention the name Ken Aldridge to him you will put a smile on his face.

Best

JB
25 March 2010, 01:13
Boghossian


No monster, but my best boar. Croatia, Nov '09.


Also taken in Croatia by someone on the AR hunt.
25 March 2010, 03:02
profyhunter
quote:
Originally posted by Boghossian:


No monster, but my best boar. Croatia, Nov '09.



GOOOOOOOD!!!
Nice boar. clap


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25 March 2010, 03:39
Jon2
Lovely boar Boggy

Well done

JB
25 March 2010, 05:10
Boghossian
Thanks - it was nice to see him appear through the mist! Gave me a nice standing shot too as he tried to sniff and listen for where the beaters and dogs were.

It was his day I think.
26 March 2010, 03:30
10,3x60r
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26 March 2010, 13:35
Boghossian
Fantastic - can you tell us how much he weighed?

Are the Swiss 'mountain' boar any different in build/size?

G
03 April 2010, 15:40
Sidney Hiscox
The biggest tusks i know of are in Antolia in TUrkey. you get biggies when they are driven but to get absolute monsters you can go out with a night vision during the full moon period and get monsters the size of buffalo


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03 April 2010, 21:06
10,3x60r
quote:
Originally posted by Boghossian:
Fantastic - can you tell us how much he weighed?

Are the Swiss 'mountain' boar any different in build/size?

G


100 kg approx (101)
In Swiss the normal boar is 70/90 kg, in Ticino the big is 210 kg shot in 2003.


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09 April 2010, 05:24
JJHACK
If you look in the SCI book many of the biggest have been killed in Turkey and Iran. I think the biggest is from Iran, I would have to check.

I always wonder why in the USA people always refer to the feral pigs as being "Russian boars" as if that is the apex of trophy quality. I believe that Russia does not have even one entry in the top 50 and may not have one in the top 100.

It would make more sense to suggest they were Turkish boars, Or maybe "persian boars" I doubt that the Russian boars have any better genetics then those from Poland, Romania or other Eastern European areas.

Why is it that the middle east has such huge monster hogs? They are not hunted? They have a better diet? Maybe the countries are so poor nobody ventures into the mountains to hunt them?




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09 April 2010, 05:52
DB Bill
I wouldn't expect many in the Middle East to eat the flesh of pork.

I was in Iran (USAF) just before the government was overthrown and got a chance to see some of the countryside --- we saw wild boar that looked as big as ponies.


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09 April 2010, 10:58
mho
quote:
Originally posted by JJHACK:
I always wonder why in the USA people always refer to the feral pigs as being "Russian boars" as if that is the apex of trophy quality. I believe that Russia does not have even one entry in the top 50 and may not have one in the top 100.


JJ, I would be careful with drawing conclusions based on SCI record book entries - which is what I assume you are referring to with "top 50 or top 100". The SCI book is largely unknown or disregarded in Europe. So the only entries you'd find there would be from travelling US (or, less prominently, international) hunters, who happen to belong to SCI, and who happen to believe in self glorification through record book entries... (OK, I know the last statement is a bit provocative, but there is an element of truth in it). There are LOTs of excellent boars taken, which are never even considered for entry into said book.

If you are really looking for a scoring system widely used in Europe - although I doubt a record book is kept - it would be the CIC system. A CIC gold medal score is generally considered very attractive here. In contrast, not many people here would bother to have their trophies scored via SCI.

quote:
... I doubt that the Russian boars have any better genetics then those from Poland, Romania or other Eastern European areas.


Boars are normally scored on the basis of tusks. So if you simply look at scores, it is quite possible that you are right, that boars from Eastern Europe score as well as boars from further East. I could not prove or disprove this one way or another. What is however generally accepted, is that weight and size of boars tend to increase as you move further east. It would be rare to find a boar weighing 200-250 kg (dressed) anywhere, but they exist and are taken in Russia, Belarus or Ukraine. In Eastern Europe, such a boar would be a sensation.

Turkey is a good destination for boar hunting no doubt about it, as is Iran - although associated with problems for US sportsmen these days. But if you are after a BIG boar in terms of body size, you would likely be looking to go to Belarus, Ukraine or Russia proper. In fact, the very biggest boar live in Eastern Sibiria, but hunting them is a gamble due to the terrain, vegetation and lack of hunting infrastructure.

Perhaps Russia, Belarus and Ukraine are not traditional destinations for travelling US sportsmen, but it would be a mistake to overlook these countries out of ignorance.

Here is a picture of a nice piggie from Belarus (linked from the website of a hunting agency: http://www.westfalia-jagdreisen.de/ )



I doubt this one would go 200 let alone 250 kg, though. But who is to know...

quote:
Why is it that the middle east has such huge monster hogs? They are not hunted? They have a better diet? Maybe the countries are so poor nobody ventures into the mountains to hunt them?


As Bill stated, the Islamic countries have little tradition for hunting boar - given the religious status of that animal. Turkey, Iran and Pakistan spring to mind when the talk is of Islamic countries with good boar populations. If boars are not shot young, they have a better chance of growing old....

- mike


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09 April 2010, 19:17
JJHACK
Agreed with the assessment of Russia, however the sportsman of the USA don't in general know about CIC or the geography of genetics that big boars come from.

many of the pig hunters of the USA only know what they hear and don't study these things about what big even is. When they shot a photo of "hog zilla" that is nothing more then a farm animal and claim it to be a wild boar. It's a joke. The Media and even National Geographic then sensationalize this and make it sound real.

A true wild hog does not weigh 1000 lbs and have huge floppy ears!




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09 April 2010, 19:19
Dom
Well said Mike, I agree with you. The only way Boar get big is grow old!


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11 April 2010, 16:06
profyhunter
quote:
Originally posted by mho:
But if you are after a BIG boar in terms of body size, you would likely be looking to go to Belarus, Ukraine or Russia proper. In fact, the very biggest boar live in Eastern Sibiria, but hunting them is a gamble due to the terrain, vegetation and lack of hunting infrastructure.

Perhaps Russia, Belarus and Ukraine are not traditional destinations for travelling US sportsmen, but it would be a mistake to overlook these countries out of ignorance.

Here is a picture of a nice piggie from Belarus

- mike


You are completely right!
The greatest wild boars in the Far East in the region Ussurii Taiga (Sus scrofa ussuricus)
One of this wild boar trophy -had a SCI Major Award in Rino 2009. - Tusks with 27cm. Was taken from Mr. Jon Shiesl (Anchorage).
I believe , that the problem with the hunting in this region - this territory isn't enough popular among hunters
from Europe and the USA. The hunting is very expensive because of very difficult and expensive way to this region. The hunters from the USA still there is possibility to reduce delivery cost if to use flight through Seul/Korea to Vladivostok. The hunters from Europe have no such possibility.
But those, who hunted there on wild boars, shoot very good wild boars.


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11 April 2010, 16:17
profyhunter
quote:
Originally posted by mho:
Here is a picture of a nice piggie from Belarus
- mike


Belarus is the very good huntig adresse for a wild boar, red deer, and european moos, driving boar hunting too...
Especially for those hunters who wishes to shoot very old and thick wild boars for smole price.
The boar with 20cm. tusks will be cost 600-700Euro. Smiler


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14 April 2010, 02:43
JJHACK
Does anyone in Europe use Archery for these big boars? Hunting a high seat with a bow and arrow would work nice. Just never see Any photos of European hunters with Archery kit




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15 April 2010, 00:02
mho
Hungary is one country that allows big game animals to be hunted with bow and arrow.

- mike


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15 April 2010, 02:17
Akshooter
I think Denmark and France both allow bow hunting but any archery hunting is rare no matter where you are in Europe. Most countries don't allow it at all.

The funny thing I found after hunting in the midwest, They have seasons for Archery,Muzzelloader and firearms. During firearm season you may hunt big game with a shotgun with slugs or a handgun but not a high powered rifle.

I have hunted six countries in western Europe. For the most part a high powered rifle is the only legal weppon. Go figure.


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15 April 2010, 09:20
JJHACK
Archery works for these big boars, this one was quite large and only travelled 50 meters with a sharp razor head through the chest. Shot at 25 meters.





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15 April 2010, 11:22
Akshooter
Yes for the American hunter pigs are great fun with a bow.
My favorite weppon for wild boar is a double rifle like my original post but when a friend of mine asked me to cull a sick sow off his hunting area in Florida I had a great expireance with a longbow even though the sow was sick and small.




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