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This video has inspired me to try and go on one of these... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...uoEk&feature=related Has anybody been on one? Does anybody have recommendations? Approximate costs? and I am sorry but I do not want to read throughg 359 posts and 10 pages to try and find the useful information in Boghossian's post Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | ||
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There is somthing wrong with the youtupe link, but driven boar hunt is THE most exsigting and fun hunt there is. | |||
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So Mike, sounds like you are ready to try a new way of whacking piggies. A change from Californian pig hunting in the cards... I know it contains a lot of posts, but you should read the thread (Boghossian) about the trip AR members did to Croatia last fall. That would contain good information for you. A fellow, Irish, AR member has been hunting with these guys in Northern Hungary - always a good destination for piggies: http://www.nagyvadhunting.hu/index2eng.html The website is "frame oriented" so I can't link you to the right page directly. Follow links "Offers" and "Wild Boar". One problem you will find, is that most driven hunts are offered only for 2-3 days. It is a long way to come from CA for 2 or 3 days of hunting... So you are probably best off, either hooking up with a group of foreign hunters (like Boghossian's) arranging for more days of driven hunts, or try to combine driven hunting with, e.g., sitting for pigs before and/or after the driven hunt. That way, you should sensibly be able to get to 4-5-6 days of hunting. Alternatively, an organizer might have driven hunts in several hunting areas, but it is a bit of a problem if you are on your own - driven hunts are most commonly arranged for groups of hunters. For something entirely different, try contacting our very own "Gerry". He is a wizard when it comes to hunting driven pigs in Germany. OK, not exactly Eastern Europe, but fun hunting all the same. - mike ********************* The rifle is a noble weapon... It entices its bearer into primeval forests, into mountains and deserts untenanted by man. - Horace Kephart | |||
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try this link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...uoEk&feature=related or search you tube for aimpoint boar hunting and look for the that says "must see...2/2" Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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Mike, The guys on that video clip normally show up in videos like this: http://www.huntersvideo.dk/ind...=videos&video_id=114 That almost assuredly makes this a video about Hungarian driven hunting (sorry if I state the obvious, I can't hear any sound associated with the you-tube clip...). - mike ********************* The rifle is a noble weapon... It entices its bearer into primeval forests, into mountains and deserts untenanted by man. - Horace Kephart | |||
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Yes and it is done in fenced grounds where are numerous boar in small area so the hunt looks impressive. 99% of the videos are sponsored and made in this way so it is not the best way to judge. However if you want to hunt there are some nice areas around in Europe, from Croatia to Romania. Always ask for the reference and for the agent who won't promise you any numbers (if you wish to hunt free range wild boar). | |||
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Mike, I'll attempt to add some perspective; thanks Mikee (mho)! (Honest) Driven Hunting is about as exciting as its gets IMO. But let's face the reality; it's exciting for several minutes - followed by hours of boredom (but if you can't keep your attention peaked you can still learn alot about trees). Would I go on an ivitation tomorrow? You betcha. I do alot of Wild Boar Driven hunts in the Fall, every year. Basically every weekend; either a Saturday or Sunday or both days from end September beginning October until the end of January plus a coupla week days thrown in. Do the math, say on average; 40 days a year and I shoot 10-40 Piggies annually of various sizes. After several years just shot a Keiler (Boar, 100 Kg) although had a long dry spell of good sized Porkers in between. Virtually all are private invitations from fellow hunters (similar to Texas - one hand washes the other). As stated prior; if you're a local you can afford to stand around and watch trees for 3 weekends in a row; only to be rewarded on the 4th weekend with numerous Sounders dashing by and a flurry of shots (what you hit is based on your ability) there are NO guarantees in honest Driven Shooting. That's just the way it is; afterwards lotsa handshaking, Beer, Wine & Schnapps with those who were fortunate enough to have had some or lotsa success on any given day. Therefore the term "Social Hunt"; not so much based on a good time but real Socialism where all suffer equally under the same misery. Paid Driven Shooting (read the word PAID) is a different Kettle-of-Fish altogether. Smaller areas (many fenced), a much higher density of game (Red Deer or Wild Boar), and appropriate $$$ in an attempt to afford each participant success. Net, you pay the price. This is entirely dependant on the morals & ethics of the hunt organizer (beware of what you purchase). ALSO highly dependant on a Shooter's ability. I've seen the same Sounder of Porkers driven by an individual hunter on several occassions where he/she cut loose 20 rounds of ammo with NO success. Couldn't hit their Hat Size. Now, having said all that many of these Videos with one Boar after the other biting the dust and flurries of shooting at many Sounders do actually exsist BUT these are private invitations costing upwards of €10,000,- for a weekend. If your pockets are deep enough and you've the connections to join in or be invited - have fun. The more you pay and the more exclusive a hunt is - the more Piggies you will see (again, dependant on your shooting ability is what the results will be). If it's an ethical hunt and the price is right hop on board; there are many such providers but beware the realities. You may not see a Pig, let alone cut a shot loose. On the other hand you may be run over by fleeing Porkers. It's a Lotto. I've hunted quit a few countries; Germany, Austria, France, Belgium, Poland, Romania, Hungary & Czech Republic; some with better success than others. Can I say any of the hunts were badly organized or potential for success limited - not really, but many times I've departed without slaying a Piggie although been adjacent to or witnessed such. Again, the Lotto Syndrome. Before I layed my hard-earned cash on the table I'd certainly request a list of previous participants (not a selected few; all of them) and query the hunt's organizational talents, your potential for success and Price/Value. Waidmannsheil, Cheers, Number 10 | |||
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Oh my.....fences? jealous are we? Hunters are from Denmark and Sweden. Hunt is in Hungary. Travel agents are Diana or Buhls jagtrejser Sponsors are Aimpoint (Swedish), Blaser, Sauer, Mauser. fat chicks inc. | |||
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Were you ever in the army? Hurry up and wait? My experiences are one 3/4 day trip per year for the past 5 years. Picture a whole weekend of freezing your nuts off looking at trees, punctuated with (if you are lucky) 2 or 3 30 second episodes of pure adrenalin. Absolute madness. Last year in Germany I shot a 70kg porker at bayonet range. Left him with powder burns. In Croatia I missed a Keiler the size of a small 4x4, at about 6 yards range, and I think I can shoot a bit. All I can tell you is I spend the flight home scheming to get back again. Just because you are paranoid, doesn't mean they are not out to get you.... | |||
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Love the Therefore the term "Social Hunt"; not so much based on a good time but real Socialism where all suffer equally under the same misery quote. My experience from drive hunting (but for moose) which has exactly the same level of lotto to it is that having a friend along makes a BIG difference in the amount of fun you have. | |||
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mike: http://www.limpopo.dk/frontpag...ourtype=2&sitemode=1 certainly you should try a driven hunt, Poland is a cheaper choice than Hungary. good luck. fat chicks inc. | |||
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I will add my +1 to Gerry's post, especially about the 90/10 split between boredom and absolute thrills! I have unfortunately met quite a few first-time driven boar hunters who believe it will be similar to a pheasant drive or youtube clip with a box or two of ammunition being finished each day.... Not the case, unless I am going to the wrong places! | |||
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Mike , it is the best hunt ever!!! Make sure to train a lot on running target ! 2000-3000usd with 5-15 of middel size pigs. I have been in Polen. first time no shot .Next time 7 hogs a a roe deer. I highly recomend this type of hunt. Matts | |||
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This is very true. Except the split is worse, more like 95% boredom. On my first trip to the Czech Rep I seem to remember I brought 60 rounds with me. I fired precisely one round....  Just because you are paranoid, doesn't mean they are not out to get you.... | |||
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Gerry  Cheaper doesn't mean better and in this case Hungary is better than Poland. Actualy ,generally Poland was good but years ago. Most of the hunters complain that there is a plenty of deer but only a few boar and we know that Brits are after boar because they have plenty of deer. Gerry said enough and well. If someone wants to shoot a lot than there is a solution which costs more. In open grounds I'm happy only if my group fired 60+ rounds or 11+ kills but it is impossible to promise anything. However, I always try to get as much as we can because there is no reason to calculate with clients or boar. The population of boar is bigger and bigger and I have to pay the damage to farmers at the end of the year. | |||
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Well, it seems I am just a little bit more optimistic than you! Last year I brought 80 rounds to Croatia with exactly the same result!  But that is not stopping me from going back again this year! B.Martins  What every gun needs, apart from calibre, is a good shot and hunter behind it. - José Pardal | |||
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I took no ammo and ended up firing 11 rounds. I think this little scientific experiment needs to be repeated! | |||
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 That's what happens when you use my rifle/ammo. To be honest it happened to me many times that I've had more luck with swapped rifles. | |||
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