Firstly for those of you that know me, NO I have not had a funny turn nor is this a wind-up.

For various reasons I am looking for a .243 I dont really dont what I want rifle wise but I am thinking that I have enough Heavy rifles so something that is a nice carry gun.

Snice talking to MHO and Gerry I have been thinking about getting a Blaser R93.

Used due to cost mainly, now to the questions what do you guys have I was looking at the off-road as the Pro is about £600 dearer new.

Is there anything to be aware of when buying used bits prone to wear, recall or modification etc.

I have an off road in 308 and preferred the off road to the professional stock though I'm also left handed so it suits to have as few left hand bits as possible for easy resale if necessary.

I'm not aware of any recalls or problem areas at all. I would guestimate that mine has about 600+ rounds through it; mostly at targets obviously. At this point the black coating has come off some areas of the bolt rails, as you might expect, as the bolt slides on them so they are certain to wear. Apart from that the rifle looks like new.

If you need a bipod then you need to get a stud mounted under the fore end. Alan Rhone (UK Blaser agent) did a wonderful neat job on mine for £100 but many people have equal success doing it themselves. The standard Blaser sling studs have slightly smaller holes than the normal and so either require sling swivels with a smaller "bar" or else you need to drill the hole out a fraction.

Also the Blaser QD scope mounts are expensive but excellent and it is worth considering the Blaser case for transport. Mine travels taken down in the case all the time and always comes back to zero, in fact I don't even test fire it now as a rule.

It would also be worth going over to the blaserpro.com web site and signing up there. It doesn't have a huge volume of posts but there are a lot of very knowledgable people on there including quite a few US Blaser dealers who would be the best people to ask about known faults etc.

I set out looking for a traditional wood rifle but after talking to a lot of people went for the plastic Blaser. On reflection I'm glad this was the route I took and while I'm not a "gun person" as such the best I can say is that the Blaser is ideally suited to my needs.

I just saw one of the "Pro" models with a green composite stock and short barrel --- I was impressed with it but the price ($3,000 US) cooled my enthusiam. However, if I were restricted to only one rifle it would be vary attractive to be able to switch barrels and have a very versatile firearm.

I have owned about a dozen R-93's over the last 5 years, several of which were Offroads, and I am not aware of any recalls or problems. I wouldn't be at all afraid to buy a used R-93.

I am a huge fan of the Professional model, and I am currently in possession of three Pro receivers. For me, I believe the Professionals are worth the extra cash.

1 Off Road Stock,
5 barrels,
1 L/H Bolt Carrier w/3 bolts,
1 R/H Bolt Carrier w/3 bolts,
7 Scope Mounts, and
2 Blaser Cases later;

I'm starting to comprehend the versitility of the Blaser R93 System.

Conveniently, my K-95 Stuzen uses the same Scope Mounts, too.



There are some issues but IMO they are minor.

The Off Road stock will fit someone with larger hands better than the Professional because it has a more open pistol grip and the Pistol Grip is smaller.

Both the Off Road & Professional can be lengthened with simple snap-on butttock extensions; the rubber recoil pad snaps on easily.

I've heard some complaints concerning the <1/2" Recoil Pad (skimpy, too small). Never phased me yet; but obviously for some a negative. Worse yet is the standard plastic buttplate on the wooden stocked models.

The Off Road stock can be slick; especially with synthetic gloves - the Professional's rubber Pistol Grip and Forearm inserts are an improvement IMO.

Why Blaser has seen fit to use the Sling Swivels on their stocks they do is a "Puzzlement" to me? Anyway, Uncle Mike's Swivel Studs have exactly the same threads as the Nut in the Forearm and the Reinforcement in the hollow Off Road & Professional buttstocks; so simply screwing on a set of Uncle Mike's Swivel Studs is an exercise in simplicity with the resulting joy of being able to un-clip a sling instead of fiddling with un-tying the sling.

Blaser makes 1" (1"=25.4mm), 26mm & 30mm, Swarovski, S&B, Zeiss & Prism Rails for their scope mounts and yes, Martha if you attempt to insert a 26mm scope (standard European straight 6X & 8X) in a 1" scope mount you WILL be disappointed and ruin the ring screws!

For a cartridge like the .243 Winchester in a light carry rifle the "short" barrel options can be considered; especailly ordering one without sights for a Moderator.

As the barrels are the only restricted item - I'd also suggest the option of ordering the Bits & Pieces via Internet from those Dealers where an occaisional bargan can be had instead of the Blaser Dealer's Price Fixing List.

Gerry --- I think it's time you admit you have a problem....and by the way, on the barrels --- what calibers are you shooting?

DJM

I do not know how many other rifles you have....

But I would advise you against getting a Blaser R 93...

ONCE you shoot/hunt with a Blaser R 93, you will be addicted.

All your other Bolt rifles will become worthless.

They WILL be relaced with R 93's.

Which is not a bad thing... It is good actually... But I thought I should warn you.

PS. Go to www.blaserro.com

I was once a member of the R93 of the month program and at the high point had five R93 stocks, and 12 or 13 barrels.

Now the only Blaser I have is k95, and I like it very much.

Everytime I think of going back to the dark side I end up buying something else instead.

I had 3 things about them I didn't like.

1. They don't like reloads, at least in my experience with the rifles I owned.

2. You can't baby the action closed, if you do it might not fire. Think of how a Browning BAR must slam home to fire, R93s require a similar slamming to lock everything in. It's a design issue with the push feed not anything wrong with the gun.

3. You can not just have one, and the expense on them is outrageous!

Over the Sauer 202 I like the safety much better, and the fact that every barrel has it's own scope locked down to it. It is a much faster take down switch barrel rifle than the standard system 202 is. Though the takedown 202 is about as slick as any single shot rifle.

In short I like them, but I can't figure out if I want back in or not. I might, but then again I might not.

I always thought a trio of match barrels in 300 win, 6.5x55, and 222 would do 90% of what I needed in the lesser 48, Africa, or Europe.

Honestly though if you want a straight bolt gun, and are looking for a similar rifle without getting overwealmed by options and switchability the Heym SR30 is very nice, I want to get a deposit on one in 2009 before the prices raise again after IWA. Price is similiar if not more expensive, but you'll save in the long run by not owning 10 extra barrels.

As for it replacing every rifle I own, that will never happen. I like too many kinds of rifles for that to work.

I still have Steyrs, Original Mauser sporters, custom Swiss K31s, Tikkas, Sakos, Weatherbys, Remingtons, Rugers, a Sauer 3000, two Sauer 202s, and a Sauer 90 and even a Marlin 336, and 444.

Nice rifle but the be all end all it is not.

Bill,

Well, the Blaser collection, Ugh, started as one rifle and just sorta took on a Life of it's own after that......



.222 Remington
.223 Remington
.243 Winchester
.30/06 Springfield (Attaché barrel) truly maginificent, the most accurate standard contour hunting rifle barrel I've ever owned!
375 H&H (Magna-Ported)

I can't help myself but I feel rhe need for a 6.5x55 barrel coming on, too after examining "mho's" so chambered R93 in the UK.

The .30/06 Sprg. & 375H&H barrel sets have been to Africa six times - a versitile combination.

Dave, I have both the original "Offroad" stock as well as the later "Professional". If cost is an issue, I would personally have absolutely no problem going with an Offroad. People have complained about missing checkering for years, I have not felt any such need during the years when I hunted almost exclusively with this stock.

The Blaser can be put together piece by piece. So whenever you find a part (stock, barrel & mag, bolt assembly, bolt head, scope mounts) you can add that towards the total.

I'll PM you a possible tip about the scope mounts.

The QD mounts are by far the nicest and most practical, and since they cost no more than the non-QD mounts, for me it is QD all the way. The only exception might be if you were looking to use a scope mounted with a set of Weaver rings, in which case I believe the Weaver base for the Blaser only comes as non-QD.

The one bit I would personally consider buying new (assuming you have a choice) might be the barrel. Blaser is pretty good at standing by their products, and just in case the barrel would not be up to your expectations.... Most Blaser barrels I have shoot well, although they tend to foul a fair bit (hammerforged, non-lapped).

The Blaser synthetic stocks IMHO do best with a few simple modifications: 1) as Gerry suggests, change to Uncle Mike's studs. 2) I have the rear stock filled with expanding insulation foam (cuts down on noise) - keep the stock open until foam expansion has finished... 3) I replace the Blaser pad with a Pachmayer 1" Decelerator (figure out right LOP and have stock cut before putting on the pad). However, if you and Claire need to share the rifle, the standard Blaser extension system may be a good alternative, I just happen to prefer the Decelerator. 4) I normally fill some epoxy into the front end of the stock - how much depends on how much weight you feel you can afford to add. It cuts down on resonance, and stiffens the forarm.

The problem Seth (D99) refers to with having to "slam" the action shut: I used to have to do this when I neck sized my cases. Now that I have gone to PFL sizing, I don't find this to be an issue. What all Blaser users need to get used to, is to *always* bump the bolthandle once the action is closed. Developing this as part of your regular handling routine will prevent the action not being closed, and a disappointing "click" being the result of pulling the trigger.

To me, the Blaser has too many advantages to really list them all, but just a few of the more important would be: ability to carry a loaded chamber in FULL safety, save 4" length compared to conventional bolt gun with like barrel length, take-down for travel, modular system allows endless changes between calibers within a minute or so.

OK, all for now. Good luck with your new project. The Blasers are not cheap guns, but as many of our learned members have stated above, they grow on you to the point where more and more bits are added to the collection. I think I'm personally at 4 stocks and 12 barrels at this point in time... I hardly hunt with anything but my Blasers these days.

- mike

P.S. Why on earth did we not think about letting you shoot the Blasers while we were in Baldock??

.222 Rem


9,3x62


.300 Win Mag

Between the 3 I've fired about 3000 shots without problem. I tend to disagree with some comments above regarding R93 vs. handloading.

In .222 I turn necks and match prep' cases, neck size using Redding competition dies, having felt the need to shoulder bump after 10-12 firings. Bullets are seated just shy of the lands.

For the .300 Win and 9,3x62, I partial size and seat the bullets close to the lands.

Altogether, accuracy is great and case life on a par with my conventional rifles.

Ah!

Good that everyone's contributions start to help with Dementia Stage IV......

I'd like to add after reading the above - the Blaser's R93 barrels are hammer forged using mandrels. Certainly makes for a pretty consistant off-the-shelf barrel.

One of the "secrets" to Blaser barrels accuracy IMO is their relatively short freebore. Therefore, attention to detail with cartridge O.A.L. when reloading for them is a Good Thing.

I've added a Stoney Point O.A.L. Gauge to my reloading arsenal since purchasing an R93 and ensure each different bullet gets scrutinized in the load development stage since with almost every load I already had on hand that had been developed for other rifles, in Blaser barrels the bullets were already jammed into the lands; net, too long and certainly a condition where chamber pressures can rise rapidly.

And now the counterpoint

Single stack 3 shot magazine with no floor plate requiring bolt cycling for unloading. You can manually load a 4th round (otherwise how are you going to shoot that second doe fawn having already shot the other and the doe and have one round left over for potential follow up shot?)but I view that as hassle on such an expensive rifle

High scope mounts - lowest will take at least a 50mm objective if not a 56mm

Somewhat 'dead' feeling trigger with more backlash than ideal. Adjustment is really a factory only option and isn't down to the advertised 1lb (so MHO tells me)

No stainless option

All photos of R93s are taken with the action, there is a lot of space, springs and stuff in the yawning chasm of the opened action.

There you go - the other side. I do not hate Blasers, I have a K95 and love it but the R93 isn't for me. IMHO the blaser quality is exceptional, I just wish they could make a standard rifle like an M70, M700 or M98.

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Originally posted by 1894mk2:
And now the counterpoint

Somewhat 'dead' feeling trigger with more backlash than ideal. Adjustment is really a factory only option and isn't down to the advertised 1lb (so MHO tells me)

Crappy trigger only the factory will attempt to correct...but never quite do. No local gunsmith will work on it. To me, a crisp trigger that breaks like an icicle is everything to an accurate rifle. My R-93 hasn't got one and the one and only factory gunsmith here in the States can't fix it.

Probably worst customer service in the gun business.

Sorry I bought the Prestige, two barrels and the 'C' guncase. Pretty expensive tomato stake IMO!!! Buy anything else besides a Blaser.

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Originally posted by 1894mk2:
And now the counterpoint

Single stack 3 shot magazine with no floor plate requiring bolt cycling for unloading. You can manually load a 4th round (otherwise how are you going to shoot that second doe fawn having already shot the other and the doe and have one round left over for potential follow up shot?)but I view that as hassle on such an expensive rifle

Actually the magazine thing is a good point, I've never had a problem only having 4 shots and I don't need to cycle the bolt to unload as I can just push each round forward and then pull it out but mine is a 308 and this might not be so easy with other cartridges. However, I do think the magazine isn't a great implementation as it would be nice to be able to lift it out or drop it out some way without having to unload it a round at a time. On the other hand there are positive aspects to it in terms of security as it can't drop out on you. Your point about the springs etc. in the mag is also well made though I believe that in some tests a range of rifles had their action filled with sand and were then operated the Blaser R93 did very well indeed so I don't think the nature of the action/mag impacts adversly upon operation.

I think that the manual cocking mechanism (safety) is very good and I have no concerns about carrying a round in the chamber which means there is no need to cycle the action when stalking. It is also safe though, as with any safety system, it is necessary to get to know it and to get to appreciate the failings of the system. No safety system is perfect. The one down side with it is that it requires quite a bit of force to cock the action and this requires you to move your whole hand/lower arm to do the job. If you aren't wearing gloves etc. and are shooting from cover then you might as well wave at the deer. This is certainly not a show stopper and I shot a deer at 50 yards this week while lying in full view of it but I was careful to cock the rifle with the hand wearing the glove. With that in mind I would certainly advise any new R93 owner to try the cocking before they buy and to think how they are going to do it when, for example, lying in full view of the deer however as a safety system I think it is hard to beat and users of other guns can't carry their rifle so safely and might have to cycle the action under similar circumstances anyhow.

The trigger on mine has given me no problems, I can shoot it into an inch at 100 yards and into 2 inches at 200 yards and I will not be shooting at deer much further than that so it does the job perfectly. I'm not much of a "gun person" but my Blaser trigger is better than the trigger on any other rifle I have shot. However, there is no doubt that it will not suit everyone and it is a case of trying it before you buy it.

The lack of a stainless option, in view of the treatment Blaser applies to barrels etc. seems not to be a major point. I've never known anyone to have their R93 rust. Mine lives in humidity of 80%+ all the time and is often by the sea and out in rain and I haven't had a problem. I don't think stainless is going to do much better.

hi Dave, I was looking at a very clean s/h R93 off road last night. it was a .308 but I think with the short barrel and lack of weight it would kick like horse. but at £900 someone will get a very good gun. I have shot an LRS in 308 and an off road in 243 and both shot tiny groups no matter what the distance. Although not everyones cup of tea they are a very a very well made and accurate rifle

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Originally posted by 308mate:
I was looking at a very clean s/h R93 off road last night. it was a .308 but I think with the short barrel and lack of weight it would kick like horse.

My everyday carry gun is a R-93 Tracker in 308, and even with a stiff load, the recoil is very manageable.

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Originally posted by onefunzr2:
Sorry I bought the Prestige, two barrels and the 'C' guncase. Pretty expensive tomato stake IMO!!! Buy anything else besides a Blaser.

If you are that disappointed with your Blaser, why haven't you listed it in the classifieds here and on BlaserPro?

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Originally posted by Jeff Sullivan:
If you are that disappointed with your Blaser, why haven't you listed it in the classifieds here and on BlaserPro?

1. Because both calibers are new to me and I have bought all the reloading equipment and supplies for them. Even if I sold all this Blaser stuff, I wouldn't spend the $$$ to buy two other rifles, plus the required accessories.

2. Because I didn't think I could get my money out of it, the economy being what it is. Have you noticed how many guns are now being posted in ARbay alone?

Don't get me wrong, I like the R93 concept. What I'm cautioning DJM about is the abominable customer non-service I have received here in USA. Perhaps Blaser's gunsmith(s) in UK are worlds better. And the forewarning that his neighborhood gunsmith won't\can't work on the Blaser if he has a problem like I do.
Perhaps it has something to do with BlaserUSA moving from Maryland to California to Texas in the span of 6 months. I haven't figured it out and I'm loathe to try.

A gazillion fellow R93 owners can gloat about how their gun's trigger is perfect; mine isn't even close. As a matter of fact I have a falling block, external hammer Browning model 1885, which because if its ancient design isn't usually classed in the 'great trigger' category, has a much better trigger that my R93. My H&R SB2 breakopen single shot has a better trigger pull. My Winchester 1895 lever action has a better trigger pull. Are you getting the point yet??? Notice I have never once complained that my gun should function better because it cost 5 times more than the normal hunting rifle.

Perhaps like some Ruger folks who sent in their rifles because they would only shoot 4" patterns and the factory gunsmith said that's within spec's, my R93 with miles of creep is within spec's, too?

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Originally posted by onefunzr2:

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Originally posted by Jeff Sullivan:
If you are that disappointed with your Blaser, why haven't you listed it in the classifieds here and on BlaserPro?

1. Because both calibers are new to me and I have bought all the reloading equipment and supplies for them. Even if I sold all this Blaser stuff, I wouldn't spend the $$$ to buy two other rifles, plus the required accessories.

2. Because I didn't think I could get my money out of it, the economy being what it is. Have you noticed how many guns are now being posted in ARbay alone?

If you like the two calibers, why would you not buy other guns in those calibers?

Blaser stuff resells pretty well. If you are truly this disappointed, it doesn't cost ANYTHING to list them for sale on here or BlaserPro.

I have only had one dealing with BlaserUSA on a broken scope mount, and it went well. From other reports though, the whole US operation is pretty much a joke.

I understand your disappointment in your gun, but to tell other people to buy anything but a Blaser is just plain silly. One "lemon" doesn't make all Blasers junk.

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Originally posted by onefunzr2:
Don't get me wrong, I like the R93 concept. What I'm cautioning DJM about is the abominable customer non-service I have received here in USA. Perhaps Blaser's gunsmith(s) in UK are worlds better.

The Blaser agent in the UK is Alan Rhone and his service appears to be pretty good in my experience. The cost isn't bargain basement but the end result is far from bargain basement either and I have been dealt with quickly and efficiently on every occasion that I have had contact with him. I have heard good things about a number of US Blaser dealers but that the central Blaser agent/organisation is indeed pretty useless however this is not the case in Europe so DJM will not share your concerns.

I am pretty certain that if you were in the UK and called Alan Rhone to say you had a dodgy trigger than he would ask you to return the rifle to him and it would be turned around within a week. I had some concern about my action due to a one off observation of what looked like soot in the mag well. I returned the rifle to them and they checked it out and returned it to me within the week. As I recall all I paid for was postage.

It must be said that it is rare to encounter a Blaser owner who has anything but praise for the rifle and it is interesting that, as you say, your problem is with the US Agents rather than with the rifle. It would certainly appear that Blaser are messing up badly in the USA in terms of service and there is no question that word will get out. In these days of a global marketplace and forums such as this Blaser need to realise that what they do in the US might indeed impact upon sales here in the UK.

Not everyone genuflects to the house of Blaser; 1894mk2 doesn't, I certainly don't. But guys like Mr. Sullivan, aka 'retrieverman' and his buddy 'corjack' on Blaserpro.com certainly do. If you voice anything resembling displeasure of the house of Blaser, on that forum, look out. They'll show you the door right quick. There can be no 'counterpoint.' Truth be damned. They will hound you until you just quit posting, like they did to me. Now that same posturing has come to this thread.

DJM can buy a dozen Blaser R93's for all I care. No skin off my nose. But he asked if there was anything to be aware of. I voiced my experience and opinion.

So if someone like DJM wishes to do a bit of diligent research to uncover the pro's and con's of the R93 and all of the con's are covered up, what is anyone left with but Shinola? That's what got me sucked in. Believe me, I knew that the internet reports about R93's blowing up hither & yon were bogus. But DJM and any other would be Blaser buyers can take my report as gospel. I'm not making up one iota.

The Utah dealer I bought it from said send it back to the Blaser gunsmith to be fixed. I sent back the whole kit; rifle, 2 barrels, 2 boltheads, 2 magazines. I was told the whole trigger group would be replaced. Imagine my surprise after the 5,000 mile roundtrip, and weeks of waiting that the invoice said, "no problems found!" No tweaking, no spring replacement, no nothing!!! How's that for service after the sale? But they're the only game in town--the country, for that matter.

Buy a Dell computer. Must you have Dell service it when it's broke? No. Buy a Ford truck. Is your local Ford dealership the only place to get it repaired? No. But ask any schooled, otherwise qualified gunsmith to repair a Blaser R93 and, to a man, they give you that old Dalmation sitting beside the RCA Victrola look of bewilderment; duh? They won't touch it with a 10' barge pole. I wonder why? Answer that Mr. Sullivan.

Just curious, but why can't ordinary gunsmiths work on the trigger of a Blaser?

I've heard that Blaser barrels can't be threaded for a moderator in the usual way due to the extreme hardness of the steel used, but surely a trigger group is a trigger group?

You are right Dave, Blaser lovers often are a sort of sect; no dissent is allowed. I've even read that if one doesn't love Blasers is because he doesn't own one. You are certainly a disturbing anomaly

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Originally posted by onefunzr2:
Not everyone genuflects to the house of Blaser; 1894mk2 doesn't, I certainly don't. But guys like Mr. Sullivan, aka 'retrieverman' and his buddy 'corjack' on Blaserpro.com certainly do. If you voice anything resembling displeasure of the house of Blaser, on that forum, look out. They'll show you the door right quick. There can be no 'counterpoint.' Truth be damned. They will hound you until you just quit posting, like they did to me. Now that same posturing has come to this thread.

DJM can buy a dozen Blaser R93's for all I care. No skin off my nose. But he asked if there was anything to be aware of. I voiced my experience and opinion.

So if someone like DJM wishes to do a bit of diligent research to uncover the pro's and con's of the R93 and all of the con's are covered up, what is anyone left with but Shinola? That's what got me sucked in. Believe me, I knew that the internet reports about R93's blowing up hither & yon were bogus. But DJM and any other would be Blaser buyers can take my report as gospel. I'm not making up one iota.

The Utah dealer I bought it from said send it back to the Blaser gunsmith to be fixed. I sent back the whole kit; rifle, 2 barrels, 2 boltheads, 2 magazines. I was told the whole trigger group would be replaced. Imagine my surprise after the 5,000 mile roundtrip, and weeks of waiting that the invoice said, "no problems found!" No tweaking, no spring replacement, no nothing!!! How's that for service after the sale? But they're the only game in town--the country, for that matter.

Buy a Dell computer. Must you have Dell service it when it's broke? No. Buy a Ford truck. Is your local Ford dealership the only place to get it repaired? No. But ask any schooled, otherwise qualified gunsmith to repair a Blaser R93 and, to a man, they give you that old Dalmation sitting beside the RCA Victrola look of bewilderment; duh? They won't touch it with a 10' barge pole. I wonder why? Answer that Mr. Sullivan.

Hell, buddy, you lost me with "genuflects". Tell me again what I am answering to???

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Originally posted by onefunzr2:
Not everyone genuflects to the house of Blaser; 1894mk2 doesn't, I certainly don't. But guys like Mr. Sullivan, aka 'retrieverman' and his buddy 'corjack' on Blaserpro.com certainly do. If you voice anything resembling displeasure of the house of Blaser, on that forum, look out. They'll show you the door right quick. There can be no 'counterpoint.' Truth be damned. They will hound you until you just quit posting, like they did to me. Now that same posturing has come to this thread.

DJM can buy a dozen Blaser R93's for all I care. No skin off my nose. But he asked if there was anything to be aware of. I voiced my experience and opinion.

So if someone like DJM wishes to do a bit of diligent research to uncover the pro's and con's of the R93 and all of the con's are covered up, what is anyone left with but Shinola? That's what got me sucked in. Believe me, I knew that the internet reports about R93's blowing up hither & yon were bogus. But DJM and any other would be Blaser buyers can take my report as gospel. I'm not making up one iota.

The Utah dealer I bought it from said send it back to the Blaser gunsmith to be fixed. I sent back the whole kit; rifle, 2 barrels, 2 boltheads, 2 magazines. I was told the whole trigger group would be replaced. Imagine my surprise after the 5,000 mile roundtrip, and weeks of waiting that the invoice said, "no problems found!" No tweaking, no spring replacement, no nothing!!! How's that for service after the sale? But they're the only game in town--the country, for that matter.

Buy a Dell computer. Must you have Dell service it when it's broke? No. Buy a Ford truck. Is your local Ford dealership the only place to get it repaired? No. But ask any schooled, otherwise qualified gunsmith to repair a Blaser R93 and, to a man, they give you that old Dalmation sitting beside the RCA Victrola look of bewilderment; duh? They won't touch it with a 10' barge pole. I wonder why? Answer that Mr. Sullivan.

Blaser does have its own brand of KoolAid but one does not have to drink it. I bought my first R93 in 1999 or therebouts. Have bot many more since, Have never had a problem and have hunted with them on 4 continents.
Whenthe factory recall came out I did make sure to sent them to a European repair facility. All came back in perfect condition including some clean-up that had not been requested.

I'm cutting my collection down to Blasers and Sauers with an occasional big bore custom. It costs just as much to scope a piece of crap as it does to scope a Blaser/Sauer.

Any Blaser can be sold at a reasonable price if you bought it at a reasonable price. There is no need to pay full retail for any Blaser component. So if you bought at wholesale, you are only goingto be out a few bucks if your items are in reasonable resale condition. Try that with a Win, Rem, or Ruger. You'll be out of pocket sufficiently on the latter that it will be awhile before you can afford another Starbucks. Check out BlaserPro.com to see what Blaser stuff is selling for. You will be pleasantly surprised.

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Originally posted by interested:
Any Blaser can be sold at a reasonable price if you bought it at a reasonable price. There is no need to pay full retail for any Blaser component. So if you bought at wholesale, you are only goingto be out a few bucks if your items are in reasonable resale condition....

Check out BlaserPro.com to see what Blaser stuff is selling for. You will be pleasantly surprised.

I am just an east Texas redneck, but I am starting to see the light here. This gentleman let a Utah dealer sell him a R-93 at FULL RETAIL and is having buyers remorse, and he now feels the need to bad mouth ALL Blasers and Blaser owners.

Interested

Absolutely don't suggest BlaserPro or resale to this guy! He called me a "genuflect" for just suggesting advertising his gun for sale on here and BlaserPro.

I often see Blaser related posts getting sour; that's funny...

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Originally posted by wildboar:
I often see Blaser related posts getting sour; that's funny...

It certainly is. And it's all because 'east Texas rednecks' can't discuss Blaser problems in a civil fashion. Or they are in denial...and I'm not talking about the river in North Africa!

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Originally posted by Pete E:
Just curious, but why can't ordinary gunsmiths work on the trigger of a Blaser?

I've heard that Blaser barrels can't be threaded for a moderator in the usual way due to the extreme hardness of the steel used, but surely a trigger group is a trigger group?

Weeell I think it's somewhat different. The K95 trigger is nothing like a standard shotgun trigger. I took one look and decided my local smith was having nothing to do with it. It's now at 1lb 6o-8oz which allthough good is not the 1lb I am used to.

A Blaser requires much less of this sort of modification because it's too a much higher standard but when you do want to modify something it's much harder to find replacement parts and harder to work on.

I hope my viewpoint is taken as constructive, I think the quality is second to none, it's just that I don't personaly want an R93.