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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/h...mother-trial-france/ Hunter accused of killing endangered mother bear claims self-defense at trial in France Updated on: March 19, 2025 / 7:12 AM EDT / CBS/AFP An 81-year-old French hunter went on trial on Tuesday, accused of killing an endangered female bear that had attacked him in the Pyrenees. The brown bear is a protected species in the mountain range, which separates France and Spain. Andre Rives was boar-hunting when a female bear nicknamed Caramelles attacked him. On November 20, 2021, two bear cubs emerged from the woods in front of Rives. Then their mother appeared, charging at him and dragging him for several yards. He shot and killed the animal. Rives sustained leg injuries and was in a state of shock. A fellow hunter managed to stem the bleeding before he was evacuated by helicopter. According to the investigation, the bear was killed 1,300 feet outside an authorized hunting area. The case caused an uproar in the department of Ariege, where hunters have held demonstrations in support of Rives. "This is not an anti-bear or pro-bear trial," presiding judge Sun Yung Lazare said. Rives is on trial for "destroying a protected species," she said. When the cubs emerged, "I looked at them with admiration," Rives said in court. "I made myself very small. Then the mother saw me. Our eyes met, she charged." He said he had no choice but to shoot. "She grabbed my left thigh, I panicked and fired a shot. She backed away growling, she went around me and bit my right calf, I fell, she was eating my leg," he added. "I reloaded my rifle and fired." "Bears are threatened with extinction" Fifteen other hunters who also took part in the hunt were being prosecuted for various offences, including hunting in the Mont Valier nature reserve, one of the oldest reserves in the Pyrenees. Around 20 associations had filed a lawsuit. Jean-Luc Fernandez, president of a local hunting federation, said Rives killed the bear in self-defense. "He fired," he said. "He should have let her do it? No, he saved his own skin." The hunters also argued that the boundaries of the reserve were poorly marked. "You never really know where you are," one of them said. Photos shown at the hearing showed barely visible signage -- red Rs for reserve painted on trees against a white background. "Your obligation as a hunter is to know where you are hunting," retorted prosecutor Olivier Mouysset. Activists contest the notion of self-defense. "To what extent can one argue necessity, when one has committed a series of offences that led to the death of the bear Caramelles?" asked Alain Reynes of the bear-preservation association Pays de l'ours. According to that group, in 2023, there were 83 bears detected in the Pyrenees and 11 females gave birth. Animal rights activists view bears as integral to maintaining a fragile mountain ecosystem that is under threat from human activity and climate change. Bears had nearly disappeared from the mountain range before France began a reintroduction program in the 1990s, importing them from Slovenia. But the presence of bears has led to increasing tensions with farmers because of the threat they pose to their livestock. Julie Rover, a lawyer representing some of the associations, said the animal rights' activists wanted to send a message. "They are not opposed to hunting, but for it not to harm the environment, its rules must be respected," Rover said. "Bears are threatened with extinction -- the disappearance of a breeding female is serious." A similar controversy surrounding brown bears also exists in neighboring Italy. Last year, an alpine Italian province confirmed the killing of a female bear believed responsible for an attack on a French hiker -- despite protests by animal rights activists It marked the ninth incidence of aggression against humans since brown bears were reintroduced to the province in 1999 as part of an European Union project, and the first since a hiker was killed last summer. In September 2023, a man shot and killed an endangered brown bear near an Italian national park, leaving her two young cubs motherless and sparking outrage in the country. The park posted a graphic image of the bear lying dead on the ground. Earlier in 2023, an administrative court's ruling spared the life of a brown bear that fatally attacked a runner on a mountain trail in Italy's Alpine region. Kathi kathi@wildtravel.net 708-425-3552 "The world is a book, and those who do not travel read only one page." | ||
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Carabella? There you go At least it was not named Winnie the Pooh but Lady Sarkozy would be more fitting or Lady Merkel? Never been lost, just confused here and there for month or two | |||
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It's not self-defense if the bear is only eating your legs. Frank "I don't know what there is about buffalo that frightens me so.....He looks like he hates you personally. He looks like you owe him money." - Robert Ruark, Horn of the Hunter, 1953 NRA Life, SAF Life, CRPA Life, DRSS lite | |||
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https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g8gpr30rgo French hunter given suspended sentence for killing protected bear 17 hours ago Tiffany Wertheimer BBC News The bear, nicknamed Caramelles, has been preserved and is now on display at the Toulouse Natural History Museum An 81-year-old hunter in France has been fined and handed a four-month suspended jail sentence for killing an endangered bear in the Pyrenees mountains. The man said he had "no other option" but to open fire on the brown bear when it attacked him during a boar-hunt in 2021. Fifteen other hunters were also fined and must collectively pay more than €60,000 (£51,000) in damages to environmental associations that had filed a civil suit against them. The 150kg female bear, nicknamed Caramelles, has since been preserved by a taxidermist and is on display at the Toulouse Natural History Museum. The Foix Criminal Court heard that the group were boar-hunting in the Pyrenees, the mountain range that separates southern France and Spain, when two bear cubs emerged. Shortly afterwards their mother appeared, charging at the man and dragging him several metres, before he shot and killed the animal. "She grabbed my left thigh, I panicked and fired a shot. She backed away growling, she went around me and bit my right calf, I fell, she was eating my leg," he told the court. "I reloaded my rifle and fired." The shooting happened in the Mont Valier nature reserve near the village of Seix, Ariège. Prosecutors said they should not have been there in the first place, because it was 1,300ft (396m) outside an authorised hunting area. But the defence lawyer for 14 of the hunters, Fanny Campagne, criticised "the lack of signs indicating that hunting was prohibited". The shooter was fined €750, his rifle has been confiscated and his hunting licence revoked. In a statement, bear-preservation association Pays de l'ours said the verdict "seems justified". "All the hunters were found guilty, which is the most important thing for us," the association's president, Sabine Matraire, was quoted as saying in Le Monde. "We hope that this ruling will be followed by a raising of awareness among the hunting community," she added. Brown bear populations saw a sharp decline in the Pyrenees, with only about 70 left in 1954, according to the region's tourism board. But numbers have slowly climbed up since 1990s when three bears were brought over from Slovenia as part of a reintroduction programme. In 2024, the French Office for Biodiversity estimated that the mountain range is now home to about 96 bears. Kathi kathi@wildtravel.net 708-425-3552 "The world is a book, and those who do not travel read only one page." | |||
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So in France you have to let the bear eat you? Seems reasonable. _________________________ Liberalism is a mental disorder. | |||
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