Here same pic´s from the new blaser rifle.
http://www.blaser-r8.de/r8/index.swf
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...OZRThxY&translated=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYXNVUVn3L4&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...KBUk&feature=related

Martin

Hmmm! Not sure I am impressed by B&W silent videos! Also, what is the point of dropping the trigger with the mag? Note I am NOT a Blaser hater, I have one with 3 barrels: 375H&H, 300WM and 7mm Mag and love the rifle. It's just that this does not make we want to run out and buy an R8!
Peter.

Same people said, the main parts, also barrel and bolt aren´t interchangeable with the R93. It should be a new and "better" radial locking system. Next monday, Blaser will show this new baby.

Martin

PS: I´m a Blaser hater.

The R8 has already been discussed on another board that I am on, and from what I have seen and heard so far, I don't see any "significant improvements" over the R-93. If I was a betting man, I would say the starting price on the R8 will be over $6K which will put it out of the reach of the majority of us.

I will be looking forward to the "official" announcement from Blaser anyway.

Removeable Mag with trigger attached?????????
MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

quote:

Originally posted by Jeff Sullivan:
... I would say the starting price on the R8 will be over $6K which will put it out of the reach of the majority of us....

And I was thinking that the R93 is already too expensive

Now, if it were $6K with the wood shown on the Blaser site, that might be a good deal!
Peter.

that removable trigger & magazine deal has to be some hand wringing nanny statist soccer mom attempt to make it "safer".

once you pull the magazine you can't shoot it.

and if the rifle is stored in one safe and the trigger/magazine in another safe, the local europeans will feel so much safer.

so much for having a spare magazine in your pocket, and you get bet a spare or replacement for a lost trigger/mag group will cost 1000 euros or more!

Poole



Poole

quote:

Originally posted by wildboar:

quote:

Originally posted by Jeff Sullivan:
... I would say the starting price on the R8 will be over $6K which will put it out of the reach of the majority of us....

And I was thinking that the R93 is already too expensive

YEP! Me too.

quote:

Originally posted by Bill Poole:
that removable trigger & magazine deal has to be some hand wringing nanny statist soccer mom attempt to make it "safer".

once you pull the magazine you can't shoot it.

and if the rifle is stored in one safe and the trigger/magazine in another safe, the local europeans will feel so much safer.

so much for having a spare magazine in your pocket, and you get bet a spare or replacement for a lost trigger/mag group will cost 1000 euros or more!

Poole

A very astute observations,sir.Something that did not strike me at all.I kept thinking about the need for such a set up.

Best-
Locksley,R

I dread to think what the trigger on such a set up feels like and at what weight it breaks.

Well it's out - you can get one over at e-gun. price of the Attache is quoted 5699€ - R93 Attache starts with 5K - therefore not that bad.



http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=2604747

And official presentation:

http://www.blaser-r8.de/r8/?lng=en

quote:

Originally posted by 1894mk2:
I dread to think what the trigger on such a set up feels like and at what weight it breaks.

2 trigger weights available - 1.5 or 2.5lbs

Is the new design compatible with exisitng R93 barrels and bolt's?

If not, I can't see exisiting Blaser users trading in R93's for these new rifles.

quote:

Originally posted by 1894mk2:
I dread to think what the trigger on such a set up feels like and at what weight it breaks.

Adam, to be fair, I have never saw nor heard of a Blaser with a bad trigger.

quote:

Is the new design compatible with exisitng R93 barrels and bolt's?

No, new bolt design and barrels.
Here the prices for Germany:
R8 Basis 2885€
R8 BlackEdition 4692€
R8 Attachè 5389€

Martin

Homer: Marge, Marge, I've come up with an idea for a new type of rifle where the trigger drops out.
Marge: Er, Homer, isn't that going to be a little risky when shooting dangerous game or communists?
Homer: No, I've thought of that. Even if there is a round in the chamber you can't cock it once the trigger drops out so you can safely swing it by the muzzle and beat the communists to death with the $6000 wood.
Marge: And you think people are going to pay $6000 for a rifle that has the trigger drop out?
Homer: People are always willing to pay for new and exciting technology.
Marge: I would imagine having a trigger that drops out is just a little too much excitement for some people. What was wrong with rifles that didn't have the trigger drop out?
Homer: They weren't safe.
Marge: You mean removing the bolt wasn't enough and now you have to remove the trigger as well? How will you ever remember where you hid the bolt and the trigger?
Homer: Oh Marge think of the profit in selling replacement triggers to people who lose them, or triggers of a different pull weight to those who want to tinker or triggers of a different colour to those going for the custom look. It's a goldmine.

By the way, does Blaser stop manufacturing the R93?

Brian,
You may wish to look into the early recall of R93's. The original steel pins were to be replaced with stainless ones. There had been accidental discharges due to rusted pin failure in earlier units.

IMO, the old R84 was the best Blaser bolt gun made. Unfortunately, when industry has something good, it is soon replaced with the new and improved model.

Geoff

Geoff

I have never heard of any accidental discharges because of the non stainless trigger pins that were placed in a few R 93's...

Can you cite any documented examples.

Most other rifles do not use stainless pins in their triggers, and they do not go off by there self due to rusted pins...

M1 Garands that were "swam" ashore at Normandy, and Iwo Jima come to mind, off of the top of my head....

I have a Colt 1911 Commander,over 40 years old that does not have stainless steel pins that has been "under water and swam around with a few times", and those pins have not rusted out and caused accidental discharges...

I have a couple of close hunter friends who bought the R93 within a year of introduction. Not long thereafter, both received a recall notice from Blaser requesting that they ship the rifles back for pin changes, indicating that it was a measure to prevent unintentional or accidental discharge. Blaser did not give any details of such instances.

Perhaps some R93 owners can chime in on this for more accurate details. I do not own an R93, only an R84. I think Blaser used steel roll pins initially. Those would be more likely to rust out if proper care were not given.

Perhaps a Blaser representative could shed more official light on this?

Geoff

It wasn't request for pin change per-se - it was a request for inspection - I know of app. 40 R93's that were sent for inspection and none of them had regular steel pins. Anyway here is official respond - subtract:

Questions about the problem itself
Question: What exactly is the problem?
Answer:

Blaser cannot be sure that in some cases in the past, suppliers have delivered pins made of regular steel instead of the ordered rust and acid-resistant steel pins for the trigger units. If these pins corrode, the correct function of the trigger is no longer guaranteed. It may happen that the trigger, having been pulled, does not return to its starting position. When the rifle is cocked and insofar ready to fire, an involuntary discharge of the rifle may occur. To avoid this risk, every R93 trigger unit has to be checked.

Question: Has this trigger unit problem caused any accidents yet?
Answer: No, we do not know of any accident.

You can see it in full here:

http://www.r93check.blaser.de/r93check-faq-e.html

To see this issue correctly one must understand the German laws and mentality - they take no prisoners - aka regular steel pins may just do alright, however stainless ones are guaranteed to (nonetheless they were patented for use in R93) and it was just a minor number of regular steel pins that were accidentaly deployed, installed and shiped somewhere.

The R8 in action – a true story from the Tyrolean Alps...

http://vimeo.com/61406123

Isn't the hunter more important in the bigger scheme of things

A lot of hunters should be in the fashion business

Unlike some blaser forums which can be so biased

Have you guys heard of blaserbuds?

Well the owner is trying to sell the forum so he started to delete any comments that might affect any potential buyer

They are start USELESS threads on a daily basis in order to increase traffic

Very funny and very sad in a way

At least we can talk freely here

Nice video and a nice stag - it looked to be in a bad way.

What breed is the dog?

I'm only ever jealous of blaser owners when in an airport with firearms.

Austrian Brandlbracke:

http://thaworlddogs.com/tag/austrian-brandlbracke/

The Austrian Brandlbracke dwells exclusively in the hands of hunters, who appreciate it especially for silent trailing. While work on the cold scent is his specialty, he can also be utilized for hunting hare and fox, for which he gives tongue. Prized by Austrian hunters, he is unknown outside his native land.


Very interesting indeed. Sounds like it would make a worthy competitor to the now ubiquitous BMH that the UK blaser owner generally accessorises with!