Red stags thread

27 March 2010, 13:48

Tophand

Don't get me wrong I am no sentimentalist or some sad deluded PETA campaigner.

But its so sad to see such once magnificent beasts slumped on the floor, covered in blood and with the light permanently gone from their eye.

Boggy

I hope you have that stag properly displays on your wall at home some where. He's a cracker!

27 March 2010, 14:54

Richard E

just for you Tophand

but it was a struggle getting in there,
hope you appreciate that

27 March 2010, 15:15

Tophand

quote:
Originally posted by Richard E:
just for you Tophand

You really shouldn't have bothered.

quote:
but it was a struggle getting in there,
hope you appreciate that

Time spent planning is never wasted and is always the key to making life easier. I hope you appreciate that now

What worth can you place on life's riches if they weren't gained thru your own effort?

Now that is a real philosophical question.

27 March 2010, 15:25

SLDG

Here,s one of a few Stags fro my trips south of hadrians wall.This chap made gold 2006-07 season.

27 March 2010, 18:50

Richard E

quote:
Originally posted by Tophand:

You really shouldn't have bothered.

your right as always

so back the original post then
2 hard earn't beasts

27 March 2010, 21:17

Tophand

quote:
Originally posted by Richard E:
quote:
Originally posted by Tophand:

You really shouldn't have bothered.

your right as always

Someone has to be. Its a cross I have learnt to bear.

I can never figure out why people feel the need to pose with a dead deer and a rifle. Its not as if someone is going to think yuo've clubs the damn things to death with a fence post.

Had the stag with all the fencing wire managed to get himself free or did you have to slot him entangled?

27 March 2010, 22:11

Ghubert

Quite.

The mysteries of the universe....

28 March 2010, 00:33

10,3x60r

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29 March 2010, 14:20

Boghossian

Great pics - keep them coming.

SLDG - is that a Norfolk animal?

29 March 2010, 14:43

mouse93

29 March 2010, 14:47

Monastery-Forester

German reticle No.1!

29 March 2010, 17:30

Boghossian

Is there an 'after' shot?

29 March 2010, 17:48

mouse93

no not this time - it was out of season (we stop hunting January 1st) - was just playing with camera and scope.

Monastery-Forester it is improved No.1 - Zeiss No.11 at 12x mag - BTW shows quite nice how one can use a reticle when judging distance - if stag's torso would fit between the point of the vertical post and end of the side bar it would be 200m away - roughly I'd say it was app. 350m (way too far for me).

29 March 2010, 18:35

Monastery-Forester

Mouse: if I see your hunting clothes, your guns and scopes, your dogs - than I think, that you have in Slovenia the same hunting traditions like in Germany/Austria. Is that because you have a long K u K - tradition?

29 March 2010, 18:50

mouse93

quote:
Originally posted by Monastery-Forester:
Is that because you have a long K u K - tradition?

Exactly.

29 March 2010, 20:00

RobinOLocksley

quote:
Originally posted by mouse93:
quote:
Originally posted by Monastery-Forester:
Is that because you have a long K u K - tradition?

Exactly.

May I ask what "k u k" tradition is?Thank you.

Best-
Locksley,R

29 March 2010, 20:09

mho

quote:
Originally posted by RobinOLocksley:
May I ask what "k u k" tradition is?Thank you.

Refers to the Austrian/Hungarian double monarchie. Slovenia was a part of the Austrian Hungarian empire.

I believe the "K u K" refers to the titles the Austrian Emperor held in Austria (Emperor - "Kaiser" in German) and in Hungary (King - "Koenig" in German). Thus "K u K".

- mike

29 March 2010, 20:10

mouse93

Here you go:

k.u.k.

29 March 2010, 20:28

RobinOLocksley

Thank you, gentlemen, for the historical tidbit. Refreshed my history. Is there a link/source that explains the hunting&clothing traditions of these regions anywhere on the net?Thanks again.

Best-
Locksley,R

29 March 2010, 21:35

Tophand

quote:
Originally posted by Boghossian:
Great pics - keep them coming.

SLDG - is that a Norfolk animal?

Gab

I think you'll find it came off Cannock Chase. or to be more precise just off Cannock Chase.

The Norfolk stuff is of lesser quality.

30 March 2010, 00:07

zaitsev

Tophand, you're talking nonsense. While some of the Cannock chase animals are undoubtedly good the Norfolk Reds are in a different class altogether. I've worked in both places and studied both populations closely.

BTW did anyone see a recent posting on this forum entitled 'Operators Fist'. It's contents may bear close scrutiny given the current incursion...

Did I just hear 'My Way'??

30 March 2010, 00:14

Boghossian

zaitsev - that's very interesting. Would love to see any pics etc you have on the populations.

Are there any defining local features for the two populations?
G

30 March 2010, 00:32

zaitsev

Hi Gab, I've no pics of the Norfolk chaps but have a pic of one of our local (Cannock) stags. Give me a few mins and I'll try and post it.

The Cannock animals arose from a couple of introductions in the 60s (accidental) when hounds panicked a number of captive animals out of a fenced enclosure on the Chase near Rugeley. I was told by the then owner of the animals (now sadly deceased) that they were of park origin but I cannot remember which one.

Both populations exhibit the 'rear tine' from below the tops (hopefully the photo will show it) from time to time.

Back in a mo.

30 March 2010, 01:02

zaitsev

Typically the one I want is on my work PC. This one is of a group of young stags and hinds near Cannock Chase. The poor quality (body wise) was a result of overpopulation at the time. Will try and find the rest tommorow.

30 March 2010, 01:33

Richard E

quote:
Originally posted by Tophand:

Had the stag with all the fencing wire managed to get himself free or did you have to slot him entangled?

nope
got the stalker in question to jump on it's back and sort of hog tie it first of all

but now i am confused at your remarks about Cannock Chase
are you acusing SLDG of poaching on or around the chase
slander is quite a serious matter

30 March 2010, 11:10

Tophand

quote:
Originally posted by Richard E:
quote:
Originally posted by Tophand:

Had the stag with all the fencing wire managed to get himself free or did you have to slot him entangled?

nope
got the stalker in question to jump on it's back and sort of hog tie it first of all

So not your stag at all. Makes one wonder why you bothered posing with it in the first place.

quote:
but now i am confused at your remarks about Cannock Chase
are you acusing SLDG of poaching on or around the chase
slander is quite a serious matter

Dickie Dickie! Please! I'm laughing so hard I've got a stitch in my side.

Confused or desperate.

Read what was posted boyo. Take your time and all will become clearer.

30 March 2010, 18:02

SLDG

I am sure that Top hand is not accusing me of poaching as that is a criminal offence and my self a respected member of the Deer Sector. This stag from wiltshire was the biggest wild stag shot there according to Ritchard Prior he was only one point off a gold.

30 March 2010, 18:41

Boghossian

He can accuse me of poaching if he likes!

That stag is a thumper? Carcass weight?

30 March 2010, 23:00

Tophand

quote:
Originally posted by Boghossian:
He can accuse me of poaching if he likes!

Boggy

Unlike so many I always make a point of knowing my facts.

So accusations are not my style. I leave that to the tw&ts and the sh*t stirrers.

30 March 2010, 23:08

Tophand

quote:
Originally posted by SLDG:
I am sure that Top hand is not accusing me of poaching as that is a criminal offence

Quite right David, you and I both know that those who said I was accusing you, were only trying to stir the crap. I know precisely where and how you came by that stag.

quote:
and my self a respected member of the Deer Sector.

30 March 2010, 23:26

Richard E

quote:
Originally posted by Tophand:

So not your stag at all. Makes one wonder why you bothered posing with it in the first place.

maybe like yourself a bit of clarity is needed
Said Stag was not seen first then stalked and shot
this stag was heard roaring at first in the early morning dawn chorus
then i stalked into it by using the roars and odd coughing sounds it made
this was the way i knew it was an old beast
from there i followed slots & noise of it moving in the undergrowth, to actually pin point it in the undergrowth was the easy bit, as saplings just 30 yards in front of me were moving in the sky line
the stalker and good friend in question was with me, as it was his ground,
he stalked along with me as he knew i was onto a good beast and wanted to be part of it
just neither of us knew how good a beast , as we had not seen it,
just from the signs knew it was a good heavy bodied and possibly old beast
this was goods enough determine to stalk for
shot decision would be made on sight as to wether trigger was pulled
I heard it,I located it, I stalked it , I identified it , I pulled the trigger
i earn't it

but you are right his beast he can drag it......it was 425lbs

30 March 2010, 23:39

Richard E

quote:
Originally posted by Tophand:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by SLDG:
I am sure that Top hand is not accusing me of poaching as that is a criminal offence

Quite right David, you and I both know that those who said I was accusing you, were only trying to stir the crap. I know precisely where and how you came by that stag.

[QUOTE]
i never acused you, just asked if you were acussing
2 different things
read what was posted Boyo
who's trying to sh*t stir now

Dave
i hear you are working quite hard and putting in some effort up north of the border
keep up the good work it may pay off

31 March 2010, 01:26

DJM

I got a Norfolk Stag calf on Saturday already had 4" of velvet spikes, and wieghed 147lbs clean.

If I get time tomorrow I will take and Post some pictures of this years cull stags.

31 March 2010, 02:41

Caracal

Some nice stags. Thx for sharing guys.
Here is one of mine from scotland

31 March 2010, 02:47

Tophand

quote:
Originally posted by Richard E:
quote:
Originally posted by Tophand:

So not your stag at all. Makes one wonder why you bothered posing with it in the first place.

maybe like yourself a bit of clarity is needed
Said Stag was not seen first then stalked and shot
this stag was heard roaring at first in the early morning dawn chorus
then i stalked into it by using the roars and odd coughing sounds it made
this was the way i knew it was an old beast
from there i followed slots & noise of it moving in the undergrowth, to actually pin point it in the undergrowth was the easy bit, as saplings just 30 yards in front of me were moving in the sky line
the stalker and good friend in question was with me, as it was his ground,
he stalked along with me as he knew i was onto a good beast and wanted to be part of it
just neither of us knew how good a beast , as we had not seen it,
just from the signs knew it was a good heavy bodied and possibly old beast
this was goods enough determine to stalk for
shot decision would be made on sight as to wether trigger was pulled
I heard it,I located it, I stalked it , I identified it , I pulled the trigger
i earn't it
but you are right his beast he can drag it......it was 425lbs

Dickie Boy

Perhaps you would care to resubmit your post in an more appropriate manner? The infant school use of grammar and syntax makes for unintelligible reading.

I suppose it all boiled down to if you can't make the effort to post in a readable manner, I see little reason to make the effort to try and read it.

If what you have to say is worth the effort of reading. It must surly be worth the effort on your part to make it intelligible in the first place.