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Hi guys

Work permitting, I may be able to join in a Swedish moose hunt in early October.

Any tips/experiences would be appreciated. I have hunted driven boar on several occasions, so any differences with this type of hunt would be interesting to hear.

If you don't have tips - just put some pictures up!
 
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Lots of fun - unless it rains solidly for a week! Smiler

Take waterproofs that will dry quickly - I use these (Green Jkt/trs) as a shell when sitting/standing. The plain plastic does not absorb moisture like other hi-tec jackets & is much lighter as a result.

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Really excellent, quiet, stretchable and totally water-proof. Best part is that you do not end up having loads of kit to try and dry.

Plenty folks using red dot style sights - but I felt easier with cross hairs as shots went out to 150m.

You will normally have to shoot a running moose test before hunting.

100 m, Moose appears, stops, one shot & moose runs - reload & one further shot whilst running.

Repeat shoot - I forget how many runs - 5x?

Hold the cross-hair on the tip of the 'bell' under the chin, swing with it and your shots will hit centre of the target area on the shoulder. Not difficult & good fun. I shot silver on first attempt, gold on second.

Take an inflatable seat cushion, a flask and daypack to carry all. You can be on the stand for up to six hours & having a few luxuries makes it much more enjoyable. Drives usually take much longer than a boar shoot.

Biggest difference I noticed, was the lack of bird song & animal movement in the woods. Compared to UK woodland, southern Sweden seemed very quiet!

Have a good one! Smiler

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The most common moosehunt in Sweden are done with 1-3 dogs with doghandlers and about 5-25 shooters. The norwegian elk hound barks then the moose are standing still and quiet then it runs(so be ready then its quiet). Se if you can borrow a huntingradio so you are updated then nothing seems to happen. Most hunters have a backpack with a seat and a thermos with something hot. It is a nice form of hunting but is not the same action as in boar hunting. Look at some pictures of moose so you learn to se the differences in size and sex.
Then you shoot a perfect lungshot the moose walks about 30-200m before it falls. Common rifle calibers are 6,5*55, 308w, 3006, 8*57, 9,3*62 minimum 155gr expanding bullet.
 
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Nordic and Ian are spot on here,

however if one is not used to take driven shots, wait for the moose to stop.

Btw no amount of "oihh" or other sounds will stop a moose in it´s tracks if they are in full tilt.

As nordic has stated, a huge target/vital zone, dont get lost in there, and you are better of with just one decent lung shot and a calm moose that toppels real close by rather then one racing of about 3-400 meters after a follow up shot,

moose are easy to kill, however slow to understand that they are dead on there feet.

Where will you be hunting?
 
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Practice practice and more practice

Steady swing and don't stop the gun

Since you have time, make sure the gun fits you in terms of LOP and coombe height

makes a big difference if you need another shot

I also recommend keep both eyes open to give you depth and distance if that makes sense
 
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do you know anything about the location for the hunt?
Northern/southern Sweden?

If you're goin' up north you can expect to sit around a couple of hours so bring a good seat/chair snacks, ipads, porn etc....

Personally I can't think of something more boring Roll Eyes

Be certain to tell your represenatative that you want to walk a day with the dog handlers if they use one.....(get in shape)


good luck.

personally I'd rather be in a grouse butt with Katie Price JordanWink


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Katie Price Jordan,

okay, well yes moose hunting in sweden is as varied as the country is long,

in the north, your either with the dog and dog handlers or in a high seat, and yes 5-6 hours is not unheard of.

in the middle and south of sweden,

it´s far mor common to have the more central european styled of driven hunts with drivers and shorter drives

ie about 1-1,5 hours in a seat of by a road,

yes a road. This is Sweden, lots of gravel roads and not that may people. Smiler

/Chris
 
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Thanks for the tips - this is an 11th hour invite so I don't have many details on the area. I am flying into Linkoping airport if that helps.

I'm familiar with the features of driven hunting, it's based on luck, target ID and the ability to shoot moving targets.

I will just settle in with some snus and salted liquorice and hope luck comes trotting my way!
 
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Boggy- Linköping is my old home town,

if the drive from there is less than perhaps two hours, then it will not be to cold and the "drives" will most likely not be more than an hour to 90 minutes at a time.

If you are lucky they might allow for shots at wild boar to, there are lots of the around in those parts.

/Chris
 
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Its going to be a great experience in any event! Hopefully you'll at the very least see the moose running, quite a sight.

Have fun!

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Thanks for the tips - this is an 11th hour invite so I don't have many details on the area. I am flying into Linkoping airport if that helps.

I'm familiar with the features of driven hunting, it's based on luck, target ID and the ability to shoot moving targets.

I will just settle in with some snus and salted liquorice and hope luck comes trotting my way!


in that hood the drives won't be as long as up north and depending on the size of the hunting area you can expect beaters. The terrain around there is easy to walk in except some areas in the south, south-west. If you have more info I'm certain I that I can give you some good intel.... Smiler


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Just lost a long reply. Here is the same but abbreviated.

1. Take easy to put on warm clothes. Can be a long walk to stand which gets hot. The standing then gets very cold

2. Be quiet on stand immediately. Moose can start to move as hunters move onto stand. If you're quiet you have a better chance (bull #4)

3. Be very clear what you can shoot, how you know when quota is reached (radio or hearing shots and assuming that if you have one bull and you have heard a shot you can't shoot a bull until you are told otherwise at the end of the drive)

4. Mentally run through your mind what you will do, practice some gun mounts etc.

5. Be crystal clear what is allowed when it comes to cows. A single cow is a single cow when you've seen it without a calf for how far? Can you shoot a cow whose calf you just shot?

6. Watch the dog - get in the zone by looking at 'algjakt' clips on U tube or Christopher Claussson (sp) Not all shots taken on those clips are safe but you can view them and decide when you would shoot. You must never forget the dog!

7. Bonded bullets are viewed as safer for dogs (less fragment issues) and as damaging less meat.

8. Target is big but dogs, cows, vegetation, standing unsupported etc make it quite testing IMHO. Don't be afraid to try to stop the moose with the nasal 'unhh' noise (ask your host). An easy to shoot rifle you are confident with is better than a big boomer you flinch etc with.

9. Radios are a pain. Turn it down listen for your name and don't be tempted to chat (bull #2 came this way)

10. Look at the 'moose clock' for vital areas. Not the same as deer, difference between right and left facing away (rumen)with frontal shot very very dodgy (very narrow vitals with massive non vital shoulders) neck and head shots very frowned upon.

11. Take some Islay - very popular

12. Take some earplugs and your own Islay. Hunting hut snoring has to be experienced to be believed. I generally get shitfaced and retire an hour earlier to race them to sleep and then wake at 3am Mad to the 'serenade'.

It's a great experience. Go with the right attitude. The average Swedish hunter shoots a moose every 3 years. I shot 5 in 4 years and have just had 2 blank years mainly due to the fact that I went with the dog handler which is MUCH harder unless you are lucky. It's still great experience.

Drop me a pm if you want and I will email some photos.

Rifle wise you are better off with lower power optics. A fixed 4x is OK, 3x is pretty much ideal but lower works well too especially on driven if you can pick up the reticle. Low light is generally not an issue.

Check protocol on bear with team leader.
Wolves are protected Frowner

Some teams have stands with red tape to show forbidden arcs - others just say where you musn't shoot. Safety is a bit different - trees are often an accepted backstop by Swedish hunters but obviously not a court of law. Berry pickers will be out and about (wearing black bin liners not dissimilar to the colour of a moose!)

Take lots of photos, try to see a beaver lodge, prepare for some strong coffee, great hospitality but don't expect to see a vegetable or piece of fruit and if you don't like fire blackened sausage prepare for a week of hunger Big Grin
 
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A very good summary of the moose hunt "1894".

Im prepairing myself for a week with out vegetables or fruit ,with smoked meat, fryed moosemeat and sausages. The black coffe is a must every morning year around.
 
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Thanks for all the tips. Can't wait to get there and I will post a report if anything interesting happens.

In the meantime I have a week in Scotland on the stags as a warmup! dancing
 
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http://www.thelocal.se/36002/20110907/

Swedes get moose drunk also ! Roll Eyes
 
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Boggy how is this for you,

motivation enough?



Taken by a fellow that posts on a swedish forum.

/Chris
 
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Wow.

So much for 'only small bulls in Sweden'!

How old would a bull like this be?
 
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I guess he managed to become at least 6 years or so,

hard to tell really, I have no idea how the quality of bulls are in that area.

But as always the big ones are taken way off some place.

/Chris
 
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Just to update everyone - I have had to cancel this trip due to work commitments. thumbdown
 
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What 100%?!

Shit man.... Frowner
 
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Sorry to hear that. I think moose hunting is best in the rut. Try to do that one day.

My advice if you go to sweden: Bring booze with you, that stuff is expensive in sweden Smiler


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Sorry to hear that. I think moose hunting is best in the rut. Try to do that one day.

My advice if you go to sweden: Bring booze with you, that stuff is expensive in sweden Smiler


Ha,I was in Norway last week. We ran out of beer and skipped over the border to Sweden to buy some cheap beer Eeker

The wolves appear to be steadily devouring the moose. We saw 1 bull,2 cows and 1 calf in 3 days.No one managed to get a shot,too far or too foggy.
 
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Sorry to hear Boghossian had to cancel.

I managed a 4 point bull stalked and shot on my way to stand (hunting with friends only so no issues about deviating from stand) First bull for my little moderated 308 titanium Big Grin Shot in that classic swedish hunting way - prone Eeker

6 moose in 7 trips not bad!
 
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Boghossian: sorry to hear that Frowner Next time though!

MK2: wow, where are you hunting in Sweden?

I'm off there next weekend...
 
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Sorry to hear Boghossian had to cancel.

I managed a 4 point bull stalked and shot on my way to stand (hunting with friends only so no issues about deviating from stand) First bull for my little moderated 308 titanium Big Grin Shot in that classic swedish hunting way - prone Eeker

6 moose in 7 trips not bad!


Nice one and thanks for all the tips. Hopefully I'll have cause to use them next year.

Is this the 308 you posted about several years ago?
 
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Just back from our weekend hunting Moose in Sweden. We had an absolutely beautiful day out, with really nice weather in the mid single digits and sunny.

Unfortunately, didn’t get a shot opportunity, but the team managed to shoot bulls, including one quite nice 5 year old bull (see pic below)

Going back next year!

Lovely sunrise…


Good bull! And a happy hunter 




A lot of meat for the freezer…


Sunset on our first Swedish driven moose hunt… but not the last !
 
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Originally Varmland but now northern sweden.

You really have to put the time in!

A really keen hunter with good dogs has to put on average 3-5 days in per moose. A stand hunter is probably over 5 days although if you're alert and a good shot you might improve on that.

I think if you hunt with friends then you can enjoy a bull shot by a mate as it heads to your stand (although you might have to grit your teeth for a couple of minutes Wink )

Yup the 308 I bought a couple of years ago. Remington titanium, ASE compact, McMillan edge, Zeiss V series 3-9x42 (1"tube) recknagel 3 position secura safety. All up weight including mod, sling and 4 rounds 7lbs 15 0z - perfection for following the dog handler and not bad on stand either.
 
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