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Just wanted to share a recent hunt for roe buck with you. In Norway the hunt starts 10th of august, when the rut is still on for a few days. I managed to get this buck on the first morning.



He was chasing a doe around for over three hours, before I was able to able to take him.
I have seen one buck after this, but was not able to get a shot on him. I will try again this evening.

Here`s some bucks that a couple of friends got..





Hope you enjoy it!


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Posts: 1959 | Location: Norway | Registered: 19 September 2002Reply With Quote
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is that the normal size of antler for roe in Norway? thats alot bigger than the UK roe
 
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Nice animals, the third animal has some serious length on him!

What rifles were used?
 
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Thanks, guys!
These are good, but not huge for Norway actually. I think the main reason, if you`re talking antler size, is the pretty low hunting pressure that`s been in Norway for a long time. Roebuck hunting is getting more and more popular, but still a lot of the bucks reach mature age. In Norway we shoot less than 50.000 each year. That`s probably mostly due to low density in many areas. I have hunted appr. 30 hours in 5-6 days this year, and seen two bucks. Not like UK I guess.. Smiler

Boghossian,
I think the picture might give him more credit than he deserves.. Smiler I think it was 26-27 cm. A funny story is that this guy shot a really great one last year. The pictured buck is only his second buck and he said he had shot a small six-pointer.. I had to convince him that this is still a good buck.. Smiler

Here`s his buck from last year, btw:


Rifles used:
I used a Schultz & Larsen .30-06, topped with Schmidt & Bender 3-12x42 and 165 Hornady Interbond.
(Wonder about purchasing a .25-06 barrel and topping with an old used Svarowski 3-12x56 I bought yesterday. Should be a great rig for bucks)..

The other is .30-06 as well. Remington and Tikka rifles with Schmidt & Bender/Zeiss optics..


Anders

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Super nice bucks, I am trying to talk my father into a Summer 2009 roe buck hunt.

I wish there was more of a guiding industry for roes in Norway, those bucks are wonderful.
 
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Some giants ! Are you sure they weren't crossbred with moose ? holycow Eeker


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some really nice bucks there,

well done
 
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Til lykke !
I feel a certain envy viewing deer we dont have on the Emerald Isle.
Thankfully the deer season opens September 1st here.
 
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Some giants ! Are you sure they weren't crossbred with moose ? holycow Eeker


Haven`t you guys discovered what photoshop can do to digital photos? Big Grin Big Grin
These are actually spike bucks.. Cool
Just kiddin`..
These are some nice bucks, and the last one the biggest I have seen in this area.. But the other ones are quite normal for mature bucks..

I was out yesterday but had no luck. I won`t give up though.. Smiler


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Anders what is the average weight of your (Nor) roe bucks?
 
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I would say the weigh in about 15-17 kilogram (dressed).. Every now and then we shot up to 20 and maybe a tad over..
Any difference from Slovenia?


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They are big, compared to Belgian roe bucks.


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Anders same here - "wood" bucks range 15-17kg, however there are places like Ljubljana's moore, or Panonian lowland (near Hungarian border) where 22kg isn't something to write home about - they can go up to 27kg dressed.

P.S. With dreesed I mean weight with head and legs, without intestines.
 
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Anders same here - "wood" bucks range 15-17kg, however there are places like Ljubljana's moore, or Panonian lowland (near Hungarian border) where 22kg isn't something to write home about - they can go up to 27kg dressed.

P.S. With dreesed I mean weight with head and legs, without intestines.


The weight I gave you is without the fur as well.. It seems though that you have some really nice ones! Smiler
How`s the antler size?


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Nothing special - here is a strong average buck:



However just over the river some 6 kliks away guys take couple like the following every year:


And here are beautiful yearling brothers that would draw ~15kg (should be big bucks in a couple of years):

 
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Nice! Thanks for sharing. Those last ones will be nice for sure. And that second buck is a dream! I have never shot a buck with more than six points, but an eightpointer like that is something special.. Wow! Smiler


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I think it was 26-27 cm. .


In the UK the longest of the 52 CIC Gold Medal heads from England in 2007 was 28.8 cms and the current UK record which was shot in 2006 was 31.9 cms. If your buck also had the skull weight and span you are probably looking at a Gold Medal.

There are something between 50 and 100 Gold Medals from England in most years and at least another 20 or 30 from Scotland.
 
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Til lykke !
I feel a certain envy viewing deer we dont have on the Emerald Isle.
Thankfully the deer season opens September 1st here.


You used to have them, some roe were introduced from Scotland to the Lissadell Estate in Co. Sligo in about 1870 and apparently remained for about 50 years. They produced a very high proportion of freak multi-pointed heads and were finally shot out due to damage to newly planted nurseries on the estate.
 
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I think it was 26-27 cm. .


In the UK the longest of the 52 CIC Gold Medal heads from England in 2007 was 28.8 cms and the current UK record which was shot in 2006 was 31.9 cms. If your buck also had the skull weight and span you are probably looking at a Gold Medal.

There are something between 50 and 100 Gold Medals from England in most years and at least another 20 or 30 from Scotland.


That last buck pictures, which a friend of mine shot, had a little over 30 cm lenght and pretty massive scull. Unfortunately the weight of the antlers itself was a bit on the light side. But it was gold (138 CIC).

I saw the new world record on a blurry picture.. Does anybody have a better photo of it? Or do you have any pictures of the UK record (thought that was the same).. 275 CIC.. Are was it disqualified? I remember reading soemthing about an area producing heavyweight bucks, but with abnorme sculls...


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No, there has been a bit of a furore over this.

The UK record is a buck scoring 222.65 shot by the celebrity chef Marco Pierre White (who shoots a lot of Gold Medal bucks) but about the same time a malformed buck scoring 277.73 was shot by Mr. Troubridge and this was a potential UK and World Record score.

The head had antler length of 30.05cms, span of 11.3 cms and a skull weight of 1182 grms which is enormous.

The UK CIC measuring committee that measured this animal put it up as a new record but Dominic Griffith, a very distinguished member of the panel, disagreed believeing the head to be too deformed and has since left the panel in circumstances which are unclear, stated to be unassociated with the submission of the Troubridge buck as a record, but few really believe that.

Recently the CIC European governing body have rejected the Troubridge buck as a new world record thereby endorsing the opinion of Mr Griffith. I believe that this leaves a Swedish buck as the world record and Marco's buck as the UK record.

I may have a photo of the heads and if so I'll post them later.
 
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Here ya go - something to look at. Not mine I hasten to add!

rgds Ian Smiler


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How typical of Marco to have a pack of Marlboro in the shot. I have to say it's not the most attractive head that I have ever seen but huge it certainly is.
 
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Ian, some data please ( weight, CIC score...)
I'm a little sad for the color, shot in velvet i think...


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Lorefuma - you are right, to shoot a buck in velvet is a crime in my eyes! Frowner

A territorial animal such as a Roe is going to be there a couple weeks later.

Data to follow.

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Ian, some data please ( weight, CIC score...)
I'm a little sad for the color, shot in velvet i think...


Lorefuma,

The data is in my post about four posts above this one!
 
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Stop it, I have had enough. I have had little roe bucks dancing in my head since I left Gerry's place in August of 2006.

The only cure is more roe bucks. I really need to take a look at my deployment cycle for August. I really need a few of those monster guys.
 
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Seth

In Ca there are many men of all shapes and sizes - but only one 'Arnie'!

Temper those expectations - there are a lot of fine trophies and great hunts to be had before you meet a monster! Wink

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My little German buck is quite nice, but he is lonley , and he needs more friends on the wall.
 
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by sewinbasher:

Recently the CIC European governing body have rejected the Troubridge buck as a new world record thereby endorsing the opinion of Mr Griffith. I believe that this leaves a Swedish buck as the world record and Marco's buck as the UK record.
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I just read in a Norwegian hunting magazine that the Troutbridge buck was accepted at a ceremonie in Chech this spring.. Confused

You could see from the pictured that the scull was deformed. I remember reading an article on several deformed highscoring bucks that was not accepted even though they didn`t hit the record level.. Can`t find that article anymore..


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How typical of Marco to have a pack of Marlboro in the shot. I have to say it's not the most attractive head that I have ever seen but huge it certainly is.


Nope he's not perfect, but I am pretty sure he would cause heart spasms, and pain in my left arm!

The problem is it is doubtful that anyone would let you shoot such a buck without paying a pretty expensive trophy fee.
 
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How typical of Marco to have a pack of Marlboro in the shot. I have to say it's not the most attractive head that I have ever seen but huge it certainly is.


Nope he's not perfect, but I am pretty sure he would cause heart spasms, and pain in my left arm!

The problem is it is doubtful that anyone would let you shoot such a buck without paying a pretty expensive trophy fee.


You're dead right there, this buck would have been very expensive but Marco is not short of cash. He shot six gold medal bucks in 2006.
 
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I bet he was 2000 quid, what do you think? And another 800 quid for the hunt.
 
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Hard to price something this expensive. As you say though, a lot of gold medal bucks are IDed early in the season and saved for continental clients...

One gold already taken off near my syndicate this season by a Danish fellow and one is still left. Costs between £600-1000 all in.
 
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I bet he was 2000 quid, what do you think? And another 800 quid for the hunt.


The hunt was probably nothing like £800 as in the UK we normally just turn up on the day and walk into the woods where the deer are. It does not involve outfitters or long treks to get access to ground with game on it. Deer densities are high all over the southern UK and you are straight into deer territory in most places.

This buck would have been spotted and reserved for Marco.

There might be a hotel to pay for as well but where this deer was shot is less than 1 hour from London and much closer to Marco's restaurant.

A typical roe hunt would cost between £50 and £100 per session (one session at dawn another at dusk) but the trophy fee for that buck might well have been in the region of £2000, certainly more than £1000.
 
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I bet he was 2000 quid, what do you think? And another 800 quid for the hunt.


Seth, If what I heard is true then you would be sick to your hind teeth at the answer to your question.

As far as I was told the landowner recieved something in the region of £500 for the years stalking and ended up with no decent bucks left on the ground at the end of it... Marco's name appeared several times in the Review that year.


Like I say it was second hand info but my contact is quite reliable.

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I need to figure out a way emmigrate 2 or 3 months a year, probably from July 15th till September 15th.

Really nice buck, can't beleive the price.
 
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I need to figure out a way emmigrate 2 or 3 months a year, probably from July 15th till September 15th.

Really nice buck, can't beleive the price.


I have no reason to doubt Fallow Buck as he obviously knows the situation but believe me that was the bargain of the century and to get the stalking on a farm anywhere in Southern England with deer on it for £500 let alone one with a few Gold Medal bucks, is some achievement.
 
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It is also my understanding that Marco was the stalking tenant on the estate where the buck was taken.

I have no idea what the rent might be.

Looks like there is a bigger story to tell.


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Sewinbasher,

I am only joking of course, I can't run around the British countryside over hill and dale with my Glock 10mm in my paddle holster on the back of my jeans.

Would be neat to hunt roe bucks every year.
 
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I was lucky enough to fish a beat on the Broadlands estate last year, where the MPW beast was shot.

I was told that the original syndicate of five guns paid £5000 each for the stalking, but MPW took it all on himself ,for twenty five grand, after he shot that animal.

I have never paid for a single trophy that I have shot.

All have come from land that I have been lucky enough to be allowed to shoot over for labour supplied.

Far be it from me to deny a man his pleasure because he has money. I would like to be in that position myself one day.
 
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