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<OlafD> |
Hi mads, 200 kilos must be a buffelo. we got a big wild pig problem in germany, they damage the corn-fields,. where cornfields you got pigs one year old and 90 kgs in the forrest big boars got 80 to 150 kg. i got one last year during a drive hunt 5-6 years old 80 kg teeth 23 cm and on the same place half a hour later 1 year old 90 kg olaf [ 08-02-2002, 14:48: Message edited by: OlafD ] | ||
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A 115 kg yesterday has been killed yesterday by a friend of my hunting equipe. My record is a 134 or 136kg boar, I dont know exactly because it lost a lot of blood before we put it on the scale. I found a photo on an Italian magazine of an over 300kg boar, but I think that it have to pass the doping test , or was son of a Ukrainian boar. There the boars can weight more than 300 kg, 330 or 340 are not impossible. bye | |||
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Ohhhh I forgot I live in Northern Italy (Milan) and I hunt in the area of Castell'Arquato (Pc) bye | |||
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There was a great picture of a Texas Hog that some guy SPEARED a couple years ago that went 700 plus pounds! JohnTheGreek | |||
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In Belgium, 100-120 kg, dressed weight, is considered excellent. We only shoot at boars that big and avoid shooting big sows or the biggest animal out of a band, for fear of killing the leading sow. Last season, a boar weighting 190 kg, field dressed, was killed and it made the papers as it is a rarity on these shores. | |||
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JohntheGreek, I've misplaced the website with the picture of the Texas hog you speak of, but it was truly impressive. Actually, it was killed with a bow, not a spear. Anyway, it, along with virtually all Texas hogs, are genetically simply domestic stock which have been feral for many generations. A very few do have some European wild boar genes due to introductions, but most are just plain old Hampshires and Durocs gone wild, which can explain why they grow so large, given time and adequate forage. They ARE truly wild, however, and are smart, elusive, and very sporting to hunt. Typically, anything over 100 kg is a very large hog. | |||
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I have seen one that would go 800 lb, my personal best is 500 lb. | |||
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In Spain, anything above 100kg live weight is big. Largest ones will be in the 120-130 kilos with the exceptional one weghing maybe 150, but that is considered exceptional. In some sierras in the south they never get that heavy and sometimes you see ones in the 45-60 kilos range with exceptional tusks for the size.(20-22cm long and 25-27mm wide) These are very fast and agile, therefore extremely dangerous for the dogs. montero | |||
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There's a feral hog pictured in a new Hornady ad which has come out in the most recent gun rags. They claim 800 lbs for it, and it looks it. For you Europeans (and other Northerners or urbanites), the crop in the photo behind the hog is cotton, and from the looks of it, it is located somewhere in the South or Southeast where that crop grows fairly large. Being in a farmland area, the hog probably feasted on soybeans, wheat/oats, peanuts, cowpeas, and/or corn (maize) to get so large. The Hornady ad says it was killed with a 130 grain .270 SST. | |||
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try www.hunting-pictures.com/members/Aussie/index.html for a boar pic or two | |||
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This week in northern Austria a boar was shot, which weighed ( dressed - stripped of innards ) 201 kgs. Thats over 400 pounds!! I know the shooter, he is a retired butcher. He has shot pigs of around 140 kgs before. Usual weight is less than 100 kgs, though. I hope to see some pics and the "Waffen" ( translation ??? ) Hermann | |||
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201 kg, dressed, means at least > 230 kg (507 lbs), live weight. A biggie, to say the least. It would be interesting to see the tusks (waffen),learn about the beast's age and the thickness of the fat layer. Such monsters do exist in our West-European woods but are rare indeed (they usually die of "lead poisoning" before reaching that size). I'm instinctively suspicious about so huge a (wild ?) boar ; if he's only aged 3-4, has small tusks (for his size and unless broken, they should go > 20 cm) and carries a fat layer around 5 cm, it screams "pen raised on corn" to this hunter ! If so, to everybody his own, but definitely not my cup of tea. | |||
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A couple of weeks ago a hunter close to my area shot a 861lb.(391kg) boar with a bow. It is featured in the local newspaper. That is one HUGE boar even if it was behind a high fence. http://www.southeasttexaslive.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=5424198&BRD=2287&PAG=461&dept_id=481653&rfi=6 I'd say the average boar in my area would be 80-125kg with several each year going over 200kg. | |||
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I'm with Montero. In my country a 130 kg wild boar is a VERY big pig. I think that some of the pigs some of you're talking aren't pure wild boars. They must be cross with domestic pigs that escaped to the bush. LG | |||
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Andr�, I don�t know nothin�new. I was away for some days, one hunting near Dukovany. We looked for a trophy Mouflon "Widder", but no luck. The 201 kgs are true. The "Weapons" "Waffen" don�t get proportionally bigger according to weight. To consider: shooting season: before the rut??? weight is higher. I have one pig shot in October, weight 83 kgs and one shot Dec. weighing 60!! kgs. The smaller?? one has the bigger tusks! Furthermore, I was told that, if the tusks are straight instead of having a taper, you have to add one or two years of age. This boar was according to my info shot in free area. There is so much maize everywhere the pigs don�t really have to look for Eicheln ( Oak ). Also the "Kirrf�tterungen" ( bait?? )are somewhat better stacked than recommended. So there is no pig starving. But they are not really "fed", also. I will listen around and will tell you all more. Waidmannsheil, Hermann | |||
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Hermann, Few aged boars have not broken a tusk from time to time (digging, fighting). So, your assumption of thick, untapered tusks belonging to older subjects may be true in the sense that it could suggest a formerly broken tusk that was resharpened against the upper one. | |||
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In our area, the normal large boar is about 130 kgs or a bit more, biggest I have killed on my ranch was just under 150kgs. Surprisingly, his tusks were not that long. As Stonecreek said, almost all of our hogs are feral domestic stock. The #2(I think, not even sure of what record book this refers to, but it was a big tusked old hog) record hog on tusks was killed a few miles SE of my ranch. I know of several that have been killed in this area(NE Texas) that weighed over 230kgs(500lbs), including one 2 guys I know CAUGHT alive with the help of quite a few dogs that weighed over 240kgs. They lost 6 dogs, 3 dead on the spot and 3 so badly hurt they had to be put down. The smallest of the 2 men is just under 2 meters and 120kgs,(6/5 and 250 lbs) and the other guy is still growing at over 2 meters and about 130kgs(6/8 and 280). Took some big men to flip that hog and tie him up, dogs or not. I think I would pass on that form of night time fun. BTW, I don't hunt them with dogs, but it is quite popular in this area as the hogs are numerous and very destructive to crops. | |||
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The biggest one I know here in our area (between Ulm and Stuttgart) was shot about 4 years ago and hat 153kg gutted. That means 180-190kg alive. More than 100kg gutted is rare. Generally you could say the more east and the more north the bigger. | |||
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Well, Gato! You've proven yourself quite worldly in describing big ol' beans-and-beer-fed East Texas boys in metric dimensions. Now, for the benefit of our New Zealand friends, how many Stone is that? And that one that's 6'8", he should be measured in hands and not inches or centimeters! I'll betcha he'll go at least a hundred and fifty (cm) in girth measured just below the bib of the overalls. That would be the better part of two Mexican Varas (generally accepted by surveyors as approximately 33 inches). Come to think of it, that would be the better part of two or more typical Mexicans. Just kidding, but it does sound amusing to hear NFL-sized pig wrestlers described metricly. | |||
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That would be about 18 stone and a few pebbles for the little one, relatively speaking, and 20 stone or so for the large one. Neither of them are overly fat. And neither of them would be the one to pick on in a bar. Or your hangover will be substantially worse, I imagine. | |||
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The pigs on my place in Tuskany are from 2 different bloodlines. The Maremma line are smallish pigs rarely over 80gk, medium tusks and a reputation for being aggressive, though I have never seen any particulare behaviour that prooves this. They are scraggly (almost ugly) beasts with small hindquarters and the boars have a disproportionately large chest and head, almost black body hair and a white face in the very old specmens. While the second line was introduced about 60 years ago from Hungary the are bigger, more solid overall, also they tend to be slightly lighter in coloration. They don't seem to interbreed much, as you either find one genotype or the other, the biggest pigs I have taken here do show caracteristics of both. The biggest I have taken was around 140kg, which the average is around 75kg. The Hungarian type are usually more prolific, with litters containing up to 15 piglets while the Maremmas usually produce half that. | |||
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