I've been messing about with 410s and its fat sister the 28g for a few seasons and I really enjoyed shooting driven partridges with it a couple of years ago.

The gun I was going to buy had a trigger problem so I passed and I back to thinking I might go with one of the O/U's out there. I'm looking at a 30" Browning 525 or the 32" Lincoln Jubilee.

Has anybody shot either of these guns?

K

K,

Find yourself a good English made 410 side by side and never look back. I have a William Jeffery, weighs 41/2 lbs, 15 1/2" stock and just the job for most shooting, save for very high birds. A days walked up shooting is a delight - you fit enough cartridges in a trouser pocket!

Many of the over and under 410s weigh nearly 7lbs and rather defy the whole point of a 410.

It is was me, I'd buy a Browning 425 Elite 30" 28bore.

Used one for a few years and was an awesome wee gun.

He already has a Browning 20 bore, unless the bugger has sold it and not told me....

And a 16 bore Holland.

And god knows what else.

Love my Charles Daly o/u 410 for hunting and occasional skeet field use
Bob

I love the 410.

I used a Browning over under for dove shooting all the time.

Upset a few shooters at a pigeon shoot when I used one and never missed

Saeed

Don't give everybody the impression 410 is superior or inferior

Rather a fitted shotgun is more effective and lethal than an unfitted one

Agreed ?

I can see guys from here going out to buy a 410 following your comment throwing tons of lead in the air hoping for a miracle that's not going to happen....

Had a great time last year at Claudio's shooting pigeon with Emmet before the London Olympics

BTW I have a message from Claudio - Emmet still has not picked up his 2005 his requested surgically modified rib...

Does he wish to donate it to us ?!?

It's been 3 years now

Good shooting

Benjamin

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Originally posted by Claret_Dabbler:
He already has a Browning 20 bore, unless the bugger has sold it and not told me....

And a 16 bore Holland.

And god knows what else.

Brian, still got the old twenty. It was the first gun I ever bought for myself so I don't expect to sell it any time soon.

The 410 I am looking at is also a G5 525.

There might be the odd other bit floating about at the back of the cabinet gathering dust...

K

Kiri, funnily enough, I was looking at a 20 bore 525 a few days ago myself. There is a gaping hole in my gunsafe where a 20 bore should live.

Have you looked at the small bore Beretta's? They are very nice, maybe a little lighter/whippier than the Brownings though.

One of the lads here bought a Spanish SxS in 410 last year for his kids. We shot it at clays, it was very hard to keep it swinging steadily. Stock shape was poor also which I am sure didn't help.

There is nothing 'floating about' in the back of that cabinet, although there might be the odd treasure crushed under great pressure into a corner. At least you don't have to worry about them rusting as there isn't enough room in the safe for any oxygen.

Kiri's gun cabinet is the firearms equivalent of a quart into a pint pot - there are at least forty rifles and shotguns fitted into a space designed for about fifteen... It takes a mind as chaotic and convoluted as the Greek's to produce an interlocking gun puzzle that complex!

Brian,

We have a pair of 687's which I can shoot but don't really like as I find them too lively. They definitely feel like more of a small bore than the Brownings though. Dad shoots them well though so I suppose if they work for you they are great!!

I have seen most guys disappointed with the 28" barrels.

K

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There is nothing 'floating about' in the back of that cabinet, although there might be the odd treasure crushed under great pressure into a corner. At least you don't have to worry about them rusting as there isn't enough room in the safe for any oxygen.

Adam,

Quite agree. I too, can attest to have witnessed, Ugh, wondered in amazement at the inside of Kiri's Gun Safe. Gives a whole new meaning to the term "Economy of Scale".

He doesn't have to attach it to the wall, Hell; It couldn't be moved with anything less than a Tractor.

Incredible.

Under that pressure; if he leaves a couple of those 16 bore Hammer Guns in there long enough; they will be 20's when he eventually removes them.

Dunno how he does it - I'd have to start an hour earlier in the mornings just to dig the one I wanted to use out and put them all back inside. I guess he has them numbered 'cause I'd never know twice how they all fit?

Kiri
I have a Browning 525 in 410 and 28 ga.
I shoot the 28 as well as any gun i own. The 410 is great fun.
Shoot it like a 28 and don't think about the missing lead.
If you reload it is cheap to shoot also.

Watch Gun Broker. You will see them from time to time.

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Originally posted by londonhunter:
Saeed

Don't give everybody the impression 410 is superior or inferior

Rather a fitted shotgun is more effective and lethal than an unfitted one

Agreed ?

I can see guys from here going out to buy a 410 following your comment throwing tons of lead in the air hoping for a miracle that's not going to happen....

Had a great time last year at Claudio's shooting pigeon with Emmet before the London Olympics

BTW I have a message from Claudio - Emmet still has not picked up his 2005 his requested surgically modified rib...

Does he wish to donate it to us ?!?

It's been 3 years now

Good shooting

Benjamin

Benjamin,

I have never used a fitted shotgun or a rifle.

A normal run of the mill stock will do just fine for me.

I used a Browning B99 single shot shotgun to win all sort of trophies in trap in America.


Including the Texas State Championship, and the Champion of Champions representing Texas against all the other States' Winners.
And I used a borrowed Pirazzi o/u to win the American Doubles Trap Championship in Vandalia.

I cannot shoot all the new shotguns they have today with very high ribs.

My friend Walter, who was part of the German Olympic Team, just shakes his head at what I do.

Apparently I d everything wrong.

I stand wrong.
I hold the shotgun wrong.
I use the wrong finger - my middle finger - on the trigger.
I talk while actually shooting.
I laugh while shooting.

But, I seem to break the targets.

The last year I shot competitive trap in the US I ended with a 99.5% 16 yards average.

I have friend who was a director at Holland and Holland. We used to go to their shooting range together, and he always laughed when I would not listen to anyone there trying to sell me a "fitted" gun.

May be there should be a catagory calling natural born shooters !

You know exactly what I mean by that

We have young shooters who can MQS without even trying very hard

See you around the range sometime

Was Walter a skeet or trap shooter ?

I better PM you

Boring these guys to death