Check out htis thread, wondering if your experience match these?



http://www.24hourcampfire.com/...77559/page/1/fpart/1

For those not inclined to read the pages of discussion in the link, it boils down to a 'Leupolds are wonderful' thread - based on a survey of popular scopes used by African PHs. List was topped by Leupold and Swaro.

Now, I could just be a cynic but the following points strike me:

How many PHs will be using a scope that was left as a tip?

Of those, what percentage would have been donated by American clients?

I do wonder if there is correlation here!

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Originally posted by PATRIOT76:
Check out htis thread, wondering if your experience match these?



http://www.24hourcampfire.com/...77559/page/1/fpart/1

Leuplods are an OK scope not in the same leage as the German scopes,Leupolds suffer badly with eye relief,basically when you increase the mag (on variables) you have to re position your head to get a clear picture,persoanlly I wouldnt have one as a gift
any scope or binos used in Africa looks alway look clear,something to do with there climet and clear skys

I have to agree that all the leupolds I looked at in the states I had eye relief issues with them, except the one I bought. THe only problem with that is that in comparison the the Swaro's I have on the other rifles, it suffers for light gathering.

My Swaro scopes outperform my B&L bino's n low light but the binos were better than the Leupold last week.

Rgds,
FB

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How many PHs will be using a scope that was left as a tip?

O.K. - I'm guilty. It was a Zeiss Conquest that the PH was mad about.

The decision was real easy for me.

He loved it and I was ready to part with it. Made the "tip" considerations for me a No-Brainer.

The Eye Relief was too long (4" - 3-9x40 Zeiss Conquest) for Blaser R93 Saddle Mounts for me anyway with the turret jammed up to the front ring.

Hope he's alot happier with it than I was but it's now at home on a Muaser 98.

I have hunted quite a bit in far-off places with Leupolds, and they have always held up very well. Our very own StuC had a problem with a Leupold reticle, but that is probably the exception.

The Leupolds I have worked with have had so-so adjustments. You were never 100% sure what distance a certain number of clicks would move the POI, but at least the POI moved in the right direction. (Don't laugh, not all scopes seem to display this attribute...). I have never been all that exited about the Leupold mechanism for focusing the scope, but they were always mechanically very rugged, held POI, were not bad in terms of parallax, and did not seem to display POI shift when changing powers.

Leupolds were never really low light scopes. But I guess that has more to do with their US heritage, where low light hunting is less common than in Europe, say. Their biggest problem in this area was reticle design, something which Leupold could easily have fixed, but probably never saw a reason to do.

Altogether a good scope for a reasonable amount of $$$. Of late, the Zeiss Conquests have given them the run for their money, though.

- mike

P.S. A friend of mine worked with a new Leupold (a VX-3 4.5-14x50, perhaps?) the other day, and that actually had excellent adjustments. So maybe they have improved.

Just my personal opinion, but I always worked faster with European scopes than with the Americans. More easy to find the right position of the head and of the eye, a wider range of eye relief, in short I feel my self more comfortable. Scope brand preferred S&B, often the best compromize between price and quality.

Agree with the comments here . . . I've had them all basically comes down to personal preference and what your intentions are for the rifle in question. My Leupold's are reserved for comp or daylight shooting and the Swaro's, S&Bs, Kahles etc are good for Euro hunting where it's either at night or mostly dusk/dawn or even midday and dark out in the shadows. I much prefer the European system for adjusting the focus of the reticles vs. the lock ring type on most US scopes. Waidmannsheil, Dom.

mho P.S. I've got that Leo VX III 4.5-14x50 on an Anschutz Hornet, great scope for that application.

I am not a huge fan of Leupold. I have a couple, but I don't go out of my way to give them money.

You can spend $200 and a Burris Fullfield 2, or a Nikon buckmaster in 3-9. Nice decent quality scopes, that have click adjustments and are very clear.

For the same $200 you get a Leupold rifleman. The rifleman is shit, has no click adjustments and isn't very clear.

For $650-800 you can buy a Burris Euro 3-12x56 or a Nikon Gold Monarch 2.5-10x56. Both aren't Schmidt and Benders but they are 100% improvement over the 30mm Leupold range, at usually half the cost.