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I did a search on this. Most of the info is fairly old.

I will be visiting Germany (Reutlingen) on business in late July or early August. I understand the Roe deer should be rutting around the same time. I had the thought it would be a perfect time to get in some European hunting.

I may have property already lined up.

I have several questions:

What permit / license do I need for hunting?

Will it be simpler to rent / borrow a local rifle?

How complicated is it to bring my own rifle?


I have walked in the foot prints of the elephant, listened to lion roar and met the buffalo on his turf. I shall never be the same.
 
Posts: 813 | Location: In the shadow of Currahee | Registered: 29 January 2009Reply With Quote
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You can not bring your own rifle.

You could hunt with anyone of a number of German outfitters. Hunting tourism here is not a well developed thing, it is not like Poland, Great Britain, Austria, Czech, Hungary, or Scandanavia. So you might have some difficulty getting set up.

You will more than likely not be able to bring your own rifle. Firearms in Germany are highly controlled, an outfitter would be able to tell you exactly if this is something that could happen or not.

I do not have my Jagdschein (hunting license) and firearms ticket, and won't until later this year. When I was living in Italy about 13 years ago, I hunted with a American-German off of these boards, and was his first hunting client. Couln't bring my rifle, and he used my American hunting licenses and passport photos to get a 10 day "Auslander Jagdschein" for me.

There are a lot of booking agencies in Germany, Austria, Denmark and other places that book hunts here. You have some time, I'd get own Amazon and get a subscription to a German hunting magazine, the majority of those booking agencies are in there.

www.diana.dkhttp://
www.premium-jagdreisen.de/product_info.php?
products_id=32
http://www.der-faire- jager.eu/angebote_osterreich.html
http://www.jagdreisen-drengk.de/laender.html

Ok, so ther is some links if you google these two words "jagdreisen Germany" you will end up with some more.

I would suggest you to hunt one of the neighboring countries: Austria, Czech Republic, Hungary and Poland have long established hunting programs for tourst, they also have a lot more deer and a lot better genetics. 83,000,000 people live in Germany, and it is the size of Montana, there is a lot of countryside, but anyway you slice it our huge population is part of the reason limited tourism hunting takes place.

From where you are staying it is about a 3 hour drive to Tyrol in Austria, where the majority of Austrian hunts take place.

This booking agent has hunts in Germany, but the locations are quite a bit farther than Tyrol in Austria from where you are staying.

http://www.premium-jagdreisen....dex.php?cPath=5_2_54

The are other booking agents that have hunts in Germany, primarily from what I saw they were in small high fenced areas around 200 acres, and not for roe deer.
 
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"You can not bring your own rifle."

"You will more than likely not be able to bring your own rifle."

Huh?
 
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Originally posted by craigster:
"You can not bring your own rifle."

"You will more than likely not be able to bring your own rifle."

Huh?


I had not drank my fist cup at 0400 this morning when I wrote it.
 
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Thanks BWW,

I lived in Germany for 2 years in the late 80s. If the guy im am visiting (he is an avid hunter) cannot put it together I will consider the Austria option.
Im already booked for Kazakhstan in October so this trip needs to be short and cheap.


I have walked in the foot prints of the elephant, listened to lion roar and met the buffalo on his turf. I shall never be the same.
 
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Yes these are the rules, according to what was sent to the Embassy in Oslo.

I am not 100% sure that it is as easy as this.


6.4.2. For marksmen, hunters and traditional riflemen from nonEU
countries
Marksmen, hunters and traditional riflemen from non-EU countries
must obtain a German travel licence to bring the weapons listed under
6.4.1 above into the country. However, the requirements for obtaining
such licences are considerably relaxed for them. The licence will as a
rule only be refused if the weapon authorities have reason to believe
that the applicant lacks the required integrity and fitness. The
authorities have been granted the discretion to refrain from requiring
an examination of integrity and fitness.
If firearms other than those licensed for the named purposes are to be
brought into the country, the above privileges do not apply – a German
travel licence must be applied for under the normal conditions.
 
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Thunder Head,

Yes you can hunt Germany and yes you can bring in rifles / shotguns. Paperwork and fees to be covered however.

You need to apply for a Besucherjagdschein (Visitors hunting permit ) and you get this from the Unterejagdbehoerde ( Regional Wildlife Fish & Game Authority that regulates hunting). Licenses are 1 week, 1 month and 6 months ( this may vary ).

You need to get in contact with

Untere Jagdbehoerde
Landesratsamt Reutlingen
Schlussstrasse 26
Reutlingen

Secretary's office is Anne Goenninger
Tel + 49 7121 480 1021

Email kommunalamt@kreis-reutlingen.de

Or ask for Tim Hannig or Doris Schmid

This is off their website - I don't know them personally. Someone should speak English.

Would suggest you get an invite letter from the person you plan to hunt with and also send copies of any US license / firearms certificate that you have for the gun you want to travel with.

A one week Besucherjagdschein should be around EUR 75,- not sure of exact amount but they will tell you.

You may need insurance ( liability ) but they will tell you that.

Good luck. Hope it goes well. Roe buck in the rut is a lot of fun! If you are paying for the hunting and trophy just be aware that the price for the head ( antlers ) is based on weight. A typical buck from that area should be around 175 - 250 gs and would likely cost around Euro 300 +/-

Hope this helps. Let us know if it works out and do post pictures !

Waidmannsheil !

Charlie

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Wow, thanks Charlie!

I am going to do that until I get my Jagdschein done.
 
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Thanks Charlie,
He said he would make a plan. So I will give it some time to see what he comes up with.

Any idea on how far in advance do I need to apply for the license's and permits?


I have walked in the foot prints of the elephant, listened to lion roar and met the buffalo on his turf. I shall never be the same.
 
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Would not leave it less than 60 days before.

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Fairly easy. You, or your friends in germany, need to apply for the Besucherjagdschein.
You can do that at any "Untere Jagdbehoerde". There is one in every town.
The only thing is that you will be limited to may 2 weeks (last time i did it for friends, might has changed) because you don't have a license that allows you to get a longer permit.
You will need insurance too.

with that permit you can import a gun etc.

If you know someone in Germany, let them help you. That will make it easier. If you don't know anyone, send me a PM by the time and I will do it for you.

Dennis


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I wouldn't worry so much about taking a gun. Our German colleagues are always "gut bewaffnet" (well armed) and I would bet any gun you borrow will be extremely accurate and well sighted in. You don't need much fire power for roe deer. Charlie 64 gives good advice on acquiring a license. Depending on the Jagdbezirk (hunting area) your host may be required to accompany you or be in close contact during the hunt. Etiquette and good manner are important in Germany and they show great respect for the game they harvest. Tradition is also very important.

After a deer is harvested, it is laid on its right side, and a small branch of a fir or oak s placed in its mouth. This is Der letzte Biss (“the last bite”). A second branch is placed on the deer to show that the hunter has assumed ownership of the dead animal. Your host my "anoint" you with a similar branch that has some of the animals blood on it. This branch you place in your hat band. If you are part of a group hunt, there will be a formal ceremony called Strecke at the end of the day. Often torches will be burning, animals are laid out surrounded by boughs and horns may play a salute. Each species has a different tune that will be played by the hunting horns...in this case "Bock tot!!". I have always appreciated this moment of thankfulness\ and respect for the game.

Have fun and post pics!!
 
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