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as if i did not have enough problems in my life i agreed to have a new female in my life as well, this one though looks like she will be more of use than abuse

presenting cirkeline, 4½ months old english springer spaniel.

she is my wife's first hunting dog, and we are very exited about her.







she is allready reacting pretty well to verbal commands, and she has charmed everyone here in the household

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Looks like a winner --- beautifully marked and I like the tail much better than the stub seen on American Springer's.


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Hey Peter!

You're a Baaad man! Now Jo has seen your new pup, the urge to own a Springer has re-surfaced with a vengance.

Fallow Buck on this board started the rot by introducing a lovely lady called 'Fern', & since that time Jo has been acting maternal! diggin Luckily, just where pups are concerned!

Is there any Cocker Spaniel in her ancestry? The rounded head is a bit of an indicator I believe & would help give her the conformation she exhibits. She really does look like a 'babe' & I'm jealous. You will have a lot of fun together - if your wife lets you! Smiler

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Peter,

Welcome to the club mate and the insane world that follows.

Example:

Saturday afternoon we were out shooting some pheasants. While waiting for a large wood to be blanked in I decided to run fern through a small spinney to push out any of the pheasants hiding in there. She edged out about a dozen birds in short order handling quite well, untill one of them just took her fancy!! Off she went for best part of three hundred metres coursinf the blasted cock bird that stayed 18 inches in front of her all the way.... Then only to pitch in in the middle of the drive that held about 200 pheasants.

Apparently most people watching tightened their grip on their dogs leads and were quite happy that it was the shoot captains dog misbehaving and not theirs!!

No dog on this planet has the personality of a spaniel though.

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There could be a bit of Langhaar breeding somewhere in that girls background.

Beautifull little dog.


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thanks guy's

she is english springer spaniel, through and through pedigree and all, a gamekeeper friend of mine is in a unfortunate situation as he is without a job and needed a good home for this girl that he bred for himself, hunting champ's on both sides of the family as far as the eye's can see, so he knew that niicky was looking for her first hunting dog and they made the agreement that if she would care for her and train her, and i promised to train and work her in then we could have her for free.
she is a funny little dog though, all puppy and play, chew in everything when in the house, and pure buisnes when we are out walking(as much as she know as buisnes by now Smiler )

as you know, im heavyly into the GSP and bloodtrailling work but it is going to be fun to raise a birddog again. i will keep you posted as we go along.

she were at her first driven shoot yesterday as a bystander but she were sitting nice and easy by my side and looking over the action, looks good allready.

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In my younger days I used to do quite a bit of gunning for Springer Spaniel field trials and as the judges like birds to drop out past 50 yards or so there is a lot of pressure on the guns to kill birds dead in the air past ranges most would consider sporting.... plus the guns want to look good so they get invited to bigger and better trials.

I can remember one really long bird that I shot that fell like a rock until it right itself just before it hit the ground in fairly heavy cover.

The dog was sent, took a direct line to the fall and when he entered the small patch of cover a ruckus arose and the foliage shook and after about 20 seconds out comes a very disheveled Springer with a very much alive bird in his mouth.

As he got closer you could see where the bird had spurred him during the struggle and I was in awe the bird was still alive when he sat to deliver the bird to his handler.

Once the bird was out of his mouth he just looked at me, spit of a few feathers and followed his handler. The look on his face as he spit out the feathers wasn't a favorable critique of my shooting.....they do have a personality.


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Bill,

That's quite interesting, as when shootingin trials here, (especially for spaniels) mostly they want the birds shot close and dead. They are really not happy if there are too many runners about. strange how things develop differently from the same roots.

As for personalyity, I used to work my freinds spaniel out wildfowling on the kent marshes. We camped on an island in the estury about 6-7 years ago on the night before the opening day and rolled out of our tent and into the premade hides first thing in the morning for the flight. I fired best part of 15 shells at party after party of ducks before connecting with an aunfortuunate single mallard. Al;l the time I was missing the dog, Sam, was giving me the dirtiest looks you could imagine and whining his head off!! That first bird retrieved and delivered settled him down so we could both enjoy a memorable flight. 18 assorted duck and a pair of geese later the dog and me were great mates again but it took some doing I can assure you!! Wink

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They like them to "dead in the air" here too but they really do like to see how well the dogs can mark and they love long retrieves.


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well guy's

it looks like the little princess will be going for her first formal shoot this sunday, but as a spectator only, it's the first shoot in the syndicate and i invited niicky to join me as my guest, i know she will be bringing her camera if it is not to wet off course, and i will see if i can get a few snapshot's of the lovely ladies together.(yes ian, this is just to spur jo on)

she rode around with me all day and went with me to the shooting ranges as well, not a shake or a scared look, she might turn out allright in the end, allthough deaf as a doornail, just like me

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Wot a beautifull little girl
like that all solid liver colour
but then i am not to keen on to much white
glad she is turning out well as i find ESS such rewarding dogs to train and work Smiler
 
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They like them to "dead in the air" here too but they really do like to see how well the dogs can mark and they love long retrieves.

i think the problem over here is the guns feel the pressure to put the bird on the deck dead
so as soon as it is safe to shoot the bird is often shot , as no body likes to miss infront of all those people
where as when i used to be invited to shoot on field trials , i liked to mix in a few long retrieves and especialy if the bird had a chance of crossing water
a good water retrieve always made my day
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a good water retrieve always made my day


I bet the handlers and judges loved you. animal

It has always been my understanding of how field trials are run that, the judges are there to determine what's a good retrieve or not, the guns are there simply to put the birds on the deck.
 
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well they did good, the little lady followed the shoot intencely untill she fell asleep besides niicky and woke up for the next drive and so on.

it were a good day and the weather were pretty decent, we are going next sunday as well, so stay tuned

best peter

p.s i had fun as well
 
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springers always have just a bit of a guilty or embarrassed look; as if they have been caught with a nose in the cookie jar. God dogs.

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well i were out shooting yesterday, but my better looking half stayed at home and took care of the kids and the farm.
Apparently she also had the time(i need to give her more jobs) to train with the springer.

she does show some promise though, nice energy level when working but still abel to wind down when inside.

so a few pictures:








i am taken her out with a few dead birds later today, to see if she will continue the good form.
she might even be a halfway decent dog after all Smiler

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peter
 
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Peter,

Good to see she's coming on well. Do you dock working dogs tails in Denmark? Mine is docked but only by a third, and I notice yours has a decent length of tail on her too.

Rgds,
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yes we are allowed to dock the working breeds(well the vet is) this one has not been docked yet, i will wait and see if she actually has a problem with her tail before she gets the snip.

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Peter she looks a doll mate and my wife has been shown her picture as a new dog is on order in my house my old dog BUCK is slowing down and needs to bring on his replacement. I hope she dose great for you.
 
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thanks mate, she really seems to be on the right track for a working dog, and also as sweet as can be, a whole other expirence than the male logheads that i usually train, she reminds me a bit of my old schweisshound(a golden retriever) regarding attitude to life at least.

only time(next season) will tell

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Tell me that is a posed photo!

That can't be a safe way of shooting. Eekershame

If the dog is unsteady it should be anchored to some immoveable object or given to some non shooter to restrain.

Any gun behaving in such a manner on any shoot I am involved with would be sent home immediately.

Safety is not a issue that there can be and compromises over.

At least the woman in your other photo gun was open whilst she stood there fag in hand and holding the dogs lead.
 
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Mr. mix since i instigated this tread i will answer you, instead of ignoring you, which seems like the only thing to do
Tell me that is a posed photo!
No, im not into posing, what you see is what you get, at least i identify myself, so if i say something on the net people know which blok to knock off
That can't be a safe way of shooting. Eekershame
actually it is, if your dog is trained well enough, apparently you are not used to well trained dogs
If the dog is unsteady it should be anchored to some immoveable object or given to some non shooter to restrain.
you could be right, i think my wife shows how to stand with an untrained dog
Any gun behaving in such a manner on any shoot I am involved with would be sent home immediately.
then we are back to the fact that you have never been around well trained dogs, in this case i think i will accept the risk
Safety is not an issue that there can be and compromises over.
no arguement on that account
At least the woman in your other photo gun was open whilst she stood there fag in hand and holding the dogs lead.

now i will just quitely ignore you again, troll
 
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Great pictures Peter, looks a great little dog and just ignore the troll's!! Roll Eyes I kinda knew who posted it before looked at the name!

You keep doing what you do!
 
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i will keep doing just that, as a little byline, 5 seconds after that picture, this were taken Smiler


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