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| <Eric Mavor> |
Hello all, I wonder if anyone in the UK knows where I could buy a Ching sling? Does anyone this side of the pond make them? Many thanks, Eric. | ||
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Sorry, but what is a ching sling? Can you explain or do you have an other word for? | |||
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Eric, I would find a source in the US. Avoid the likes of Cabelas as the hammer you when they send a small order abroad. However many of the smaller outlets on the net do the postage at cost. As the sling will be well under $50, you will not have to pay tax nor duty at this end... regards Pete | |||
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= a sling attached to 3-points in the stock, like this one  Once adjusted to your build, it's very fast and steady for long offhand shots. If I'm not mistaken, our forum-fellow Charlie Ching is the inventor. | |||
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Check the new one on the African forum | |||
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| <Chris Long> |
Go to <http://pw2.netcom.com/~chingesh/index.html>. | ||
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Eric (good name!): Thanks for your interest! For sales outside of the U.S., your best bet is to order directly from Galco's web site. I would hold off on buying an original Ching Sling, however, until you've had a chance to look at my new Safari Ching Sling, which doesn't require the installation of a third (middle) sling stud. The new sling should be available on Galco's web site shortly after the first of the year. [ 12-17-2002, 00:39: Message edited by: Slingster ] | |||
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quote:"Charlie?" Hahahahahahahahaha! Loved it! As Eric has already corrected, it's "Eric"... but I wanted to post to say that Andre's picture, here, and his comments about it on another website, are what made me buy my first one... and that led to buying my second one... and now that, "soon" (?), Galco will be bringing out his new Safari Sling, I'll be getting one of them, too. I would have liked to have bought myself one for Christmas, but... oh well. "Next year." From a guy who has shot "combat" and "high power" in national competition, using "issue" military slings, I can tell you that Eric's Ching Sling is about as steady as you're going to get without taking EXTRA TIME to sling up into a competition-style shooting sling. These slings are DAMN FAST to get into and DAMN STEADY once you're "in" them. I'll never have another hunting rifle without one of his slings, either Ching or Safari. Russ | |||
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quote:I don't sell them myself, preferring to leave that to the professionals (and not have to deal with the business licensing and taxation bureaucracies). I talked with Galco on Friday, and they're still expecting to have it available on their web site right after the first of the year. As soon as I know it's up, I'll post it here. Russ and Andre, thanks again for your kind words of support. [ 12-22-2002, 23:14: Message edited by: Slingster ] | |||
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Sorry for having butchered your name, Eric - don't know where I got "Charlie", won't happen again, promised... BTW, I found back this pic of me, using your sling while demonstrating rapid rifle fire, during a hunting magazine interview. The rifle is a 9,3x62, K98 "Scout".  | |||
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Not a problem, Andr�. From your picture, it doesn't look like you've got your support arm wrapped up in the shooting loop, which would tighten things up more and be more stable. After you insert your arm and get the loop high into your armpit, as you already do, then rotate your arm clockwise, passing your hand under the sling and back into the loop, grasping the forearm. The sling will be wound around your forearm. Try it! | |||
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You're right Eric, that's what I do when there's time to slip into the sling. BTW, I didn't notice that in my pic, I was grasping sling and forend altogether. Must have hurried it up as I was shooting at a rolling tire and was really set at punching 2 holes in the center target, to really impress those journalists ![[Big Grin]](images/icons/grin.gif){kind=icon} | |||
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Eric, Jackson rifles has them in stock. Tel 01644470223. Griff | |||
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quote:Griff: Nice to know they're available in Scotland. How about dropping them a hint about my new Safari Ching Sling? ![[Wink]](images/icons/wink.gif){kind=icon} | |||
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Hi Slingster, give me some details about the safari sling, and will pass it on when i,m there next week. Griff | |||
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Griff: The Safari Ching Sling should be up on the www.usgalco.com web site for sale shortly after the first of the year. You can view a prototype and read about how it works on my web site: http://www.netcom.com/~chingesh/SCSling.html | |||
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To All: The Safari Ching Sling is now available on the Galco International web site (no pictures yet, however). http://www.usgalco.com/HolsterP3.asp?ProductID=2518&CatalogID=361 | |||
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Hey, i can see a pic on th e webside. Is this guy uses the sling right? And this "construction" will give you realy help. when have to shoot free handed? Can it be compared ( as calm as) like using a shooting stick? cheers konstantin Maybe we can ask galco for a special offer Hand signed by eric and with the AR sign on it Konstantin | |||
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| <Doc Garnett> |
Eric and all others, who recognize the value of slinging up before the shot -- I have no doubt of the value of your Ching Sling design even tho I don't have any experience with it. Many rifleman of great reputation recommend them. However, I do use the Latigo Sling from Brownels. I find it quick and easy, too, and nearly as steady as a conventional military sling. Any comments on a comparison between the Latigo and the Ching slings? Also, most of my hunting rifles' forends are not rigid enough to to support slinging up without radical changes in POI. Is that y'all's experience, too? Regards -- -- Doc | ||
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Konstantin: The Safari Ching Sling is probably not as steady as shooting sticks for standing shots, but then it's a lot more convenient to carry than shooting sticks (assuming you don't always hunt with a guide or tracker who can carry them). Doc: I haven't used the Brownells Latigo Sling, but from its description its main advantage is quick adjustment of length, not shooting support. If you can describe how you use it as a shooting aid I'll be better able to comment. | |||
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The Latigo locks up like a loop sling, but it is slightly slower than a Ching. Open it to full length, give it a half-twist to the left and open the loop, then insert your arm as you would with a loop sling. I take one rigged with QD swivels whenever I travel. Rifles are easier to borrow than good slings, and if I get an unexpected chance to hunt, I have a sling I can use on someone else's rifle. Doc, if you free-float your barrel, the flexible- forend problem will probably go away. Hope this helps, Okie John. | |||
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I got my safari ching sling in the mail today from Galco and am very impressed with the quality. Going out tonight to buy some swivels and mount it on my Model 70 safari express. | |||
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Okie and Doc: Hmm, if the Latigo works like the military loop sling (but without the keeper?), I count five operations to slinging up once the rifle is off your shoulder: half-twist, open loop, insert arm, wrap arm in sling, mount buttstock. (With the military sling you'd add sliding the keeper to cinch the sling around the arm as a sixth step.) With the original Ching Sling you insert arm, wrap arm in sling, and mount buttstock. Three operations. With the Safari Ching Sling you pull the elbow loop behind your support arm elbow and mount the buttstock to your shoulder. Two operations. KevinNY: Thanks for trying the Safari Ching Sling! Let me know how it works for you. | |||
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Slingster: I meant no disrespect. Yes, it takes five moves to deploy the Latigo from Sling Arms, but I have my reasons for preferring it in some situations. I hunt in steep, brushy country, where ranges are usually under 100 feet and shots are usually taken offhand. Occasionally, I may need to shoot up to 200 meters across a ravine, so I still need a shooting sling. The Ching is always deployed, so it swings under the rifle and moves my sight picture when I’m trying to snap a shot through a hole in the brush. (This is much like having a boot swinging from the back of your rucksack by the laces, and it's worse on light rifles like the M-7 Remington.) I can tighten the Latigo so it doesn’t do this, and I still have a shooting sling. It's a bit slower than a Ching, but I'm much more likely to need to shoot offhand quickly than to need to loop up quickly. Many people would just take the sling off, but I have a sling on my rifle because it belongs there, kind of like the sights. I refuse to have detachable swivels on a serious rifle because I learned in the Army that what can detach will, generally at the worst possible moment. I prefer a Latigo in thick stuff. For most other uses, I prefer your rig. It works as advertised and is a most excellent general-purpose item. Okie John. | |||
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okie john: I didn't take any offense from your comments; I just wanted to understand them. I've successfully made two and three-second snap shots with the original and the heavier Safari Ching Sling on game, so I know it can be done, but I understand your point about the snugged up military or latigo sling being less distracting. What I usually do when stalking with the Ching Sling or Safari Ching Sling is trap the middle of the sling with the fourth and fifth fingers of my support hand to reduce the pendulum effect. But that's why there's different kinds of slings for different kinds of shooters, right? | |||
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O Master Ching, it sounds like we're on the same page. Okie John. | |||
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I tried the safari ching sling on my model 70 safari express with the barrel band swivel at the range last weekend. I found that having the front swivel that far forward made it difficult to keep the arm loop from slipping forward because of the shallow angle. I brought it home and put in on a Model 70 300WSM Laminate stock and the light came on. It is superb when mounted in the traditional swivel placement manner and will be staying on this rifle. I also have a regular ching sling with the 3 swivel mounting and will try it on a model 700 7mm-08 I have. I shoot competitively and know the value and stability of a good sling and these 2 solutions seem to be the best thing around for a hunting rifle, perhaps much more useful than a bipod and lighter and more aesthetic too. | |||
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quote:Kevin: Great input; thanks! I also saw someone try it whose sitting position had her upper support arm almost parallel to the ground; obviously the Safari Ching Sling wouldn't work for her. It does seem that the Safari Ching Sling works better with the support hand closer to the receiver on the forearm, and the attachment point on the forearm instead of on the barrel. Perhaps the best compromise is the attachment point at the tip of the forearm, which is where Blaser positions it, and Brockman makes a custom sling stud that does the same. That would prevent the support hand being injured by the sling stud under heavy recoil, while still being far enough back to work with the Safari Ching Sling. [ 03-04-2003, 22:45: Message edited by: Slingster ] | |||
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Good to know about that angle swivel, I may put one on since The sling works so well and is very comfortable for carrying a heavy rifle. Is there any reason I could not just use a regular swivel std drilled at an angle? The winchester stock has plenty of meat up front. [ 03-05-2003, 01:03: Message edited by: KevinNY ] | |||
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quote:I don't see why not. The other advantage of the Safari Ching Sling over other slings that I've found is that it doesn't constrict blood flow to the support arm, meaning that you can stay slung up longer without the shakes starting or your arm going numb. | |||
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