I will be in Germany in a few months, and would be interested in taking a first hand look at hunting clothing, boots, equipment favored by German/European hunters. I am especially interested in wool garments. Can you folks recommend the dominant makers of quality hunting clothing. In the states, there is a slow trend back to wool garments for its silence, warmth when wet, and "traditional" appeal. However, there are very few options geared specifically toward the hunter. Again, I have all the "synthetic" garments I can stand. It is more traditional fabrics I am interested in.

Boots are also on my shopping list as my favorite pair of cold weather "mid-calf boots are finally worn out. Mendl is the only name I familiar with from US. Are there others I should look for.

Our primary city of travel will be Munich, but excursions elsewhere are not out of the question.

Thank you!

There are 2 big dealers in hunting clothes guns etc.But be prepared to have large deep pockets as they are not cheap. However you can buy some quality stuff. they have stores dotted around germany and probably in Munchen. (Just looked up my catalouges).Eduard Kettner main shop in Koln. in Munchen it is at Maxmillianstrasse 27, 80539 Munchen ,tel. 089/2909470
Frankonia ,is the other one and they are at Maximillianplatz 10, am Cafe luitpold, Ecke BrennerStrasse tel. 089/2900020 fax 089/29000220 it is only minutes away from Feldherrenhalle. Get yourself a catalouge from each they make mouth warering veiwing on long winter nights before xmas!Here in Britian we buy a New Zealand hunting coats called Swandri which are woolen and green and not too bad ,come in different styles and not out of the way price wise.I hope addresses and tel. no. are okay my catalouges stem from 95/96 can't get any new ones unfortunately lost my contact over there. Best of luck and good shopping.

tread

Say Swandri. Is there a web site for this company. I have heard manny great things about them, but never had one.

I guess all the sheeps in NZ can't be all that wrong

Cheers
/ JOHAN

Clint Have you already read the reply that I sent in the topic opened on A.H.?
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HERE IT IS!
Clint,
if you will be in Germany on 14th of March, yu can try to enjoy IWA fair, it is the European version of Shot Show, where you can find a lot of informations about outdoors, garments and shoes;
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Stefano
Waidmannsheil

hey,...welcome on board...i�m dealing for the same search in the opposit direction .
So maybe we can learn or get informations of each other.

1) The swandri link : http://www.swanndri.co.nz/
1a) german hunting and outdoor shops:

www.kettner.de

or

www.frankonia.de

2)Wool: Overhere we don�t wear wool that much, because -as i know- we don�t have any trades that offers wool clothings the style you may are looking for. We german hunters are normaly wear LODEN.
Loden is nearly the same like wool, and mostly is made out of rabbit- or other animal hairs or wool (sometimes virgin wool). I think they produce it in different ways, either it�s wooven and the other way (it�s called "walken")is somehow like; they do have a big washing mashine where they put the hairs or wool into, then put some water in it and let it tumble.....then they press it under water steam to the garnment. The more this process is repeated th e stronger (warmer) the material gets.
Very famous is loden from austria or tirol ( good brand is Sanderson).
The german manufacturers are (that are good)
1)Rascher , they do build trousers, overtrousers, coats, jackets, vests....
(http://www.rascher.de)
2)and out of Bavaria, Munich (top products hand crafted) forgotten the name but think i mean Lodenfrey. but realy not sure about the name.

These products mostly, not to say, only in plain green . Although the colour can verie from gree over dark green to grey or grey-green,..depends where it has been made.
NOT available in camo patterns !!!
But mostly you can get them with goretex membrane.
A goog brand also was ELCH, but the company does no longer exist, and the name was sold to Eduard Kettner. But the quality can�t be compared to the original Elch Loden ( comes from S�dtirol).
I think Rascher is a good brand if u look for the money�s value.
Compared to sleeping indian designs or KOM they are realy cheap
Apropos,..maybe u can give me a hand.
I bought the King of the mountain (KOM) bird pant in autumn brown and now thinking of getting me the bowman jacket or the hooded sweater. But to be honest the jacket is about 400 Bucks, and the hoddes sweater arbout 317 which is still a lot of money.
Additional problem is, that i like to buy me the cabelas MT 050 extreme insulated whitetail Jacket and the bibs. therefore i don�t KOM at all....if i would get the jacket / sweater for a reasonable price it would be okay...
I know that woolrich, and columbia also produce camo wool,...but their pattern doesn�t fit to the KOM pattern. Otherwise i would buy me the gallatin jacket and everything would be fine
Have u ever worn KOM? Or maybe know where they sell them as special offer ?
Do u think it makes sense to have a extra wool set to the cabelas MT 050 gear???
Maybe you can bring light in my darkness, by giving me u�r suggestion and point of view.
Can i wear wool arround +15 or +20 degrees celsius or are they more suited for cold weather?
cheers Konstantin

What i forgotten to tell you:
good trades are (never tested them but only heared good things about)
the french brand le chameau, beside rubber boots they build hunting apparels too.

Meindl,...i owned some fgor about 20 years. the first one hold up 15 years the second pair 5 years. What i�ve heared that Meindl shoes do have some problems with the "Schuhsohle" (schuhsohle= the part of the shoe with witch you walk,..the vibram...part) The "schuhsohle" comes off after wearing them realy often. But on the other hand i have to say, that i send my shoes to Meindl and they fixed them. They put some new vibrams on it - for free- and send them back to me. Not a bad service

But i now bought me the Hanwag boots. Realy nice.
www.hanwag.de
cheers
konstantin

P.S. thing you now have enough links to do some studies

[ 01-29-2003, 21:42: Message edited by: konst#1 ]

hey clint, maybe you are interested in som efine british products, out of loden or tweed
Then you may also look at : http://www.barbour.com

cheers
Konstantin

hey clint, a short thank u from you....would had been okay for all the "work" i did for you

cheers
konstantin

Konst

You should start in the hunting clothes business

I have looked for Swandri for a very long time. I wonder if loden would sell that good in USA?

/ JOHAN

Hey Johan,
i think the US hunters are not familar to loden, although woolrich is producing some things out of wool, that are very similar to , what we know, as loden .
And mashine washable,..but to be honest i do machine wash my loden too, although the manufacturer says only dry clean.
Cold or 30 degrees Celsius Wool washing cycle (no tumbling!!!!), and after they come out wet, stretch them..and u will se they look brand new.

What makes me wonder is- that as a friend from the states was here last year- he was realy suprised about the loden gear. He said something like: you won�t find such -high quality- hunting gear in the states!.... if u compare the prices US / Germany ..the stuff in the states is much cheaper. Although some companies, like King of the mountain/ sleeping indian designs, takes realy much for their virgin wool hunting gear.
Funny at all, if this wool hunting stuff of the both mentioned firms where cheaper,..i think i would get me some more of their stuff. But to be honest, for a pair of bibs nearly 500$ it not only expensive,...it�s something like rude / unpolite. But maybe that�s just my humble opinion.

cheers
Konstantin

Konstantin,

I appreciate all the information.

The steamed and pressed stuff is felt. Was used in boots as an insulating liner, in hats, shirts, etc. All sorts of fibers can be felted.

Here in the U.S., Woolrich and Filson make some outstanding heavy wool clothing that is warm and wears well and comes in a variety of colors.

One of those colors is "loden green" sometimes shortened to just "loden". It is a dark green. Unfortunately, I can't say more than that as my sight is color deficient and I can't discern shades of color all that well. Has kept me from doing much electronics work.

Again, thanks for all the information.

Hobie
One Of Us
Member # 9367

posted 02-01-2003 20:37
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Konstantin,

I appreciate all the information.

The steamed and pressed stuff is felt. Was used in boots as an insulating liner, in hats, shirts, etc. All sorts of fibers can be felted.

Here in the U.S., Woolrich and Filson make some outstanding heavy wool clothing that is warm and wears well and comes in a variety of colors.

One of those colors is "loden green" sometimes shortened to just "loden". It is a dark green. Unfortunately, I can't say more than that as my sight is color deficient and I can't discern shades of color all that well. Has kept me from doing much electronics work.

Again, thanks for all the information.

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th ething with the electronic works is cool...lying here and have to held my stomage because i�m laughing tears

cheers
Konstantin

http://www.hubertus-shop.de/catalog/default.php

this side is available in english too, you find the button "english" in the right upper corner.

All the best and if u do have some questions...
just ask

Konstantin

P.S.
Do u can tell me anything about the MT 050 stuff fronm Cabelas????

Whoops ND

[ 02-04-2003, 20:33: Message edited by: 1894 ]

That's a charge for sure!

Rgds Ian

Hey 1894,
Whoops ND means ????? what

@Ianf ..can u give me a hand what you mean with "that�s a charge for sure"

I can�t find any meaning for these 2 posts......but like zo understand what you 2 guys mean.

cheers
Konstantin