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I'll be shooting running game for the first time this Autumn and I need to put in some practice. My local range has a 50m running boar range but for some bizarre reason will only allow black powder guns or rimfires to be used - and as I'm not planning to use my .17HMR or a Colt .45. that's not a lot of use to me. A Swedish mate has recommended placing targets into old car tyres and shooting them as they roll down a hill. Does anyone have any other ideas for easily constructed and appropriate moving targets to simulate running boar or deer. I'm unlikely to have the time to get down to Bisley before September, plus I've got plenty of easily accessible ground here in the Welsh borders to try various methods. Any ideas (or volunteers willing to offer some running game tuition in the lovely Herefordshire countryside?). Thanks, Adam. | ||
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I'd practice at that range with the running boar with the .17 HMR. If you shoot it enough you will get comfortable with smoothly tracking on the boar, follow just behind the ear, go with it, get the shot off, continue tracking after the shot, and be able to call your shots and drop them right in the 10 ring every shot. Of course, this is all easier said (typed) than done But the point is it is good practice for when you are out on stand with that .270 and the boar are off and running. I've even got lucky and got standing shots off on them but the norm is they are on the move, Waidmannsheil, Dom. -------- There are those who only reload so they can shoot, and then there are those who only shoot so they can reload. I belong to the first group. Dom --------- | |||
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I had though of various mad schemes to practice shooting moving targets, including the above "tyre" idea. It is a struggle to find somewhere to do this safely and you still need a "volunteer" to stand in front of the firing line and roll that tyre for you. Decided it was a disaster waiting to happen. I would find somewhere with rabbits that I coould shoot down into a soft bit of ground and practice shooting rabbits on the run. I also did this with the HMR, it is bloody hard. The other thing to get implanted in your brain is to cycle that bolt as quick and hard as possible after every shot. Forget about saving your brass. Just because you are paranoid, doesn't mean they are not out to get you.... | |||
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Didn't know Minsterly had that restriction - never used to. BRSC at Bisley is the only place set up for it. In effect most moving game is shot by maintained lead - thusly you HAVE to get to Bisley to work out the leads for your load and shooting style before you head off. You will shoot their at 8O or 100yards (can't remember which) get your point of aim on the animal and then work out what it is at differing ranges. For me on moose it's the hanging thingy at 80 and the front of the shoulder at 40yards. Clays are a help and there is also a little Gamo moving target contraption for use with 177 air rifle but none are a substitute for a good session to work it out. Moose or boar? BTW many Swedish teams are much happier if you've done the equivalent of the moose test before you come. Good Luck! | |||
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Perhaps you can build this We have build something similar and it is great fun. | |||
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Buy one of these and you can practica at home, entry level for air rifle costs ~300 €, they have bigger ones, too, for centerfire. I saw them on the IWA fair, made a good impression. Running target practice. | |||
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There's a very useful site about compensating for lead on running game here http://www.udarrell.com/leadin...ame-rifle-frames.htm COUNTRYSPORTS. Established 1984. Web sites: www.countrysports.co.uk & www.fishinginuk.co.uk SCOTLAND, ENGLAND, POLAND, SOUTH AFRICA | |||
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Printed on the box of Norma jaktmatch .308w 810m/s. LEAD: Target speed 1m/s 50m 6,3cm 80m 10,2cm 100m 12,9cm Common target speed for moosetarget is 5m/s i aim at loose patch under the neck with this ammo(80m). | |||
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Spurred on by Londonhunter's flying buffalo rig and Claret_Dabbler's risk comments , I have retired to the shed with the welder and a pile of mild steel offcuts to see if a I can rig up a remotely-operated trap for my tyre targets. Early trials showed that a purely mechanical release, operated by a pull cord, was a bit hit and miss as there was too much stretch in 100+ metres of parachute cord. I'm now playing with a 12v battery operated remote-control 'gate' mechanism, using a stepper motor from a combine harvester and a plastic trailer mudguard (they were free ). With a bit of extra thought, it should be possible to rig up a rudimentary magazine to hold several tyres at once, so I don't have to keep running up and down to reload the tyres. My zeroing range uses a 150' glacial deposit as a backstop, so it's safe to blast away at moving targets. | |||
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Wow sounds exciting why don't you expand thenidea even more and have a simulated walk through shooting the big five I discussed this with my PH one night over camp fire your mechanical xontrature can be dressed up to look like a hippo or buff charging at you we even thought of a quick sand trap and swamppy setup with firebreathibg creature lurking behind vegitations sort of hunters Disneyland I think if this exist I will be there everyweek | |||
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1894, didn't we shoot running buffalo at the range day of Trevor Proctors all those years ago? Harking back to military training, practice at moving targets was a frequently practised skill. We were taught two methods (1) the Lead Method, sweep through the target and let rip when pointing the desired distance in front, or (2) The Ambush Method - pick a point on the route that the target will pass, when it gets close to that point, let 'em have it. I've used both methods on pigs over the years and when you get the hang of it the results can be spectacular. Nothing like folding a sprinting warthog at 100 metres to impress the PH! I'd favour the tyre method with a air rifle, then build up to a full bore rifle as your ability grows. Clearly you need to have your wits about you or someone is going to get hurt. ------------------------------ Richard VENARI LAVARE LUDERE RIDERE OCCEST VIVERE | |||
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Unless you are able to fire several fast, consecutive shots, the "ambush" method is I understand not encouraged neither in Skeet nor in Running Target rifle shooting practice. The reason seems to be that it works under the circumstances (target speed and distance, background because of familiat "target picture") you have practiced. | |||
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Ok guys if the moderator allows can I mention a place where I think it is a shooting paradise whatever level one is I am writing this post from Shooting range gaj just google that in Slovenia Maribor I have been training here for the past week in another dicipline and lorry loads of concrete and steel have been arriving I am priviledge enough to br the first one to shoot a running bore range here just like the one in ulm in Germany with video analysing and electronic scoring one can shoot any caliber up to 9.3 distance 50 metres and wait for this 8 euro a round of 10 runs this is a world class shooting range by the end of august the 300 IAAF rifle range is up without caliber limit 50 metres in door rapid fire pistol range total area of club is 350 hectares most impotant brining guns in is not a problem flights are under 130 return from London sorry you guys have to check for other destination there are plenty of boars as well ao once you have practised zeroed your rifle then you can move on to live quarry yesterday I helped to calibrate the new equipment with the manufacuter while they are installing and fired 160 runs with a 223 all I can say is wow I you guys are interested and need more information please send me pm or email serious this is a centre os excellence for shooters at any level and very affordable | |||
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The club I shoot at, always has a tail wind. So, I blow up a balloon. Toss it up in the air, and I have a moving target. On †he occasions of a head wind, balloons are placed under a object, with a 100 m of fishing line. Pull the line to free the balloon, and I have a charging buff. | |||
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How does your "new paragraph" works? | |||
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I can only appologise I typed it on an iphone in Slovenia and the screen does not allow me to see the whole thing and there is something in the software that returns with its own mind ! I have ipad now which will improve things when I am on the move. Sorry........... | |||
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I remember when I was a boy my father took me to the range on sunday and my job was to fill ballons with propane gas helped by the range worker and we will shoot it with a 22 short I recall they make spectacular explosions and I have a 8mm movie somewhere to remind me of those days I dont think health and safety existed then | |||
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I presume that you filled them with a mixture of propane and air? I do wonder how the impact of a .22 short was able to ignite that mixture in a balloon. It does sound like something I'd be tempted to try on next New Year's Eve... I know that in some places of SE Europe this is a kind of custom during wedding celebrations even though I was told that they use welding gas, acethylene and oxygen for that purpose. | |||
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the best fun you can have is ,get grass field blow up some ballons and let them off ,o wind is a help . get a friend to shoot with you and pick colours for each outher to shoot at . it is also is good long shooting fun | |||
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