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Following on from a thread on another forum I have just conducted a practical scope test.

The test:

Iron Fallow Doe at 150m

Aim:

To be able to see, place the cross hairs on and shoot the Iron Doe

The Contenders;


  • Schmidt & Bender Classic 4-16x50 Long Range No 4 Ret
  • Leupold VX-III 6.5-20x50 Varmint Hunter Ret
  • Nightforce NXS 5.5-22x56 NP-R2 Ret


All scopes set to x14

The Results:

19:00


  • Schmidt & Bender Classic 4-16x50 Long Range No 4 Ret
    Comments: Clear and Bright Easy to aquire the Target
  • Leupold VX-III 6.5-20x50 Varmint Hunter Ret
    Comments: A little grainy image target could be aquired
  • Nightforce NXS 5.5-22x56 NP-R2 Ret
    Comments: Clear and Bright Image Easy to aquire the Target


19:05


  • Schmidt & Bender Classic 4-16x50 Long Range No 4 Ret
    Comments: Clear and Bright Easy to aquire the Target

  • Leupold VX-III 6.5-20x50 Varmint Hunter Ret
    Comments: A little grainy image target could only just be aquired ret very difficult to see

  • Nightforce NXS 5.5-22x56 NP-R2 Ret
    Comments: Clear and Bright Image Easy to aquire the Target


19:10


  • Schmidt & Bender Classic 4-16x50 Long Range No 4 Ret
    Comments: Clear and Bright Easy to aquire the Target

  • Leupold VX-III 6.5-20x50 Varmint Hunter Ret
    Comments: Very dark image could not aquire target ret could not be seen

  • Nightforce NXS 5.5-22x56 NP-R2 Ret
    Comments: Clear and Bright Image Hard to aquire the Target due to ret being difficult to see, Ill ret on and no problem to see ret and aquire target


19:15


  • Schmidt & Bender Classic 4-16x50 Long Range No 4 Ret
    Comments: Clear and Bright Easy to aquire the Target

  • Leupold VX-III 6.5-20x50 Varmint Hunter Ret
    Comments: Is the lens cap still on! could not see through scope

  • Nightforce NXS 5.5-22x56 NP-R2 Ret
    Comments: Clear and Bright Image, Ill ret on no problem to see ret and aquire target


19:20


  • Schmidt & Bender Classic 4-16x50 Long Range No 4 Ret
    Comments: Clear and Bright Easy to aquire the Target

  • Leupold VX-III 6.5-20x50 Varmint Hunter Ret
    Comments: Is the lens cap still on! could not see through scope
  • Nightforce NXS 5.5-22x56 NP-R2 Ret
    Comments: Clear and Bright Image, Ill ret on no problem to see ret and aquire target


19:25


  • Schmidt & Bender Classic 4-16x50 Long Range No 4 Ret
    Comments: Clear and Bright becoming harder to aquire the Target

  • Leupold 2X-III 6.5-20x50 Varmint Hunter Ret
    Comments: Is the lens cap still on! could not see through scope

  • Nightforce NXS 5.5-22x56 NP-R2 Ret
    Comments: Clear and Bright Image, Ill ret on no problem to see ret and aquire target


19:30


  • Schmidt & Bender Classic 4-16x50 Long Range No 4 Ret #Comments: Grainy image becoming harder to aquire the Target ret difficult to see

  • Leupold 2X-III 6.5-20x50 Varmint Hunter Ret
    Comments: Is the lens cap still on! could not see through scope

  • Nightforce NXS 5.5-22x56 NP-R2 Ret
    Comments: Clear Image becoming grainy, Ill ret on no problem to see ret and aquire target


19:35


  • Schmidt & Bender Classic 4-16x50 Long Range No 4 Ret
    Comments: Is this a Leupold! could not pick up target or see though scope

  • Leupold 2X-III 6.5-20x50 Varmint Hunter Ret
    Comments: Is the lens cap still on! could not see through scope

  • Nightforce NXS 5.5-22x56 NP-R2 Ret
    Comments: Grainy, Ill ret on no problem to see ret and aquire target


19:40


  • Schmidt & Bender Classic 4-16x50 Long Range No 4 Ret
    Comments: Is this a Leupold! could not pick up target or see though scope

  • Leupold 2X-III 6.5-20x50 Varmint Hunter Ret
    Comments: Is the lens cap still on! could not see through scope

  • Nightforce NXS 5.5-22x56 NP-R2 Ret
    Comments: Very Grainy, Ill ret on no problem to see ret but could not aquire target


This was an honest test and I would of put money on the S&B being the clear winner.

Now anyone want to buy a S&B 4-16x50 as feel another NXS is on the cards.
 
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Very interesting test.

A few years back I did a similar test, but trying to read a car number plate at dusk.

I was using a 6x42MM Swaro Nova, a Leupold MC8 6x42mm and a 7x50mm Meopta.

The Leupold was the first to become unsuable with the the Swaro and the Meopta giving another 15 minutes or so ..In the end I think the Swaro edged out the Meopta, which impressed me, but the biggest difference was in a another test I did in "difficult light conditions" when the Swaro suffered noticably less flare than either of the others..

In your case, wonder how much difference the larger size objective made?

It would be interesting to run the test using two scopes from the same maker, one with a 50mm objective and the other a 56mm...

And I suppose the other aspect is to to dial down the magnification as the scope started to get grainy, which is exactly what you'd do in reality; you may have got several minutes more from the Leupold had it be reduced from x14 to x7, but whether the reticle would have been visible is another matter..

BTW, I assume the Leupold was a SFP scope, but what about the other two?

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Hi Peter,

The NXS and the VX3 were both 2nd FP the S&B was 1st.

I did wonder the same about the objective.

A friend has a 50mm NXS so I may try it again with the 2 NXS of differing objective sizes.

I did think about turning down the mag but decided to keep them set at x14 this time.

The fine ret on the Leupold would not of bought it any longer, the NXS is not much better without the Illumination.

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I have illuminated reticle's in a couple of scopes and while I don't use them often, in certain situations they are a boon.

Regardless of the quality of the scope, I would say generally that you loose your cross hair before you run out of light and an IR just avoids that..
 
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Itried a similar test with the following scopes

S&B 3-12x50

NXS 3.5-15x50

I had them both set on 12 power and I honestly could not tell any difference.

I had a completely impartial mind set going into the test (I didn't want one to succeed over the other but just wanted to assess both as best I could).

Obviously I assumed the S&B to come out as the best in low light but I couldn't say it did and they were both the same as far as I could see.

I would be interested to see if a test can be done with some kind of equipement to assess more scientifically but then again that would largely be accademic as it is the human eye ball in the field which is the restricting factor.
 
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Jon,

Thanks for that I am not too supprised that they were equal following last nights trial.

I guess it was the 56mm Objective that edged it for the NXS
 
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Dave,

Great Test - but .....

Do it again.

Turn the 50mm objectives down to 7X and the 56mm objectives to 8X.

14X with a large objective lens gives you a great twilight factor when you do the math but the normal human eye will not dialate enough to use it.

Funny how this works. We use all the Big Hitters here in The Fatherland; Swaro, S&B, Zeiss & NF but at the end of a full night's sitting my scope and almost everyone else's is cranked down to either 7X or 8X.

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It would be interesting to run the test using two scopes from the same maker, one with a 50mm objective and the other a 56mm...


I do this all the time with a Docter 2.5-10x48, a Zeiss 2.5-10x48, a Zeiss 3-12x56 & a Zeiss 8x56. All end up in the same place every time (7x or 8X) when adjusting the X factor for best light. Except, of course the straight 8x56mm which has no adjustment and wins the "light" test every time!


Cheers,

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Not doing it tonight its pooring down!
 
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I would like to see a Swarovski in that test.

I have compared Swarovski scopes to other brands and the Swarovski always seemed to have the best twilight performance for me. Although, I do like my IOR and Zeiss scopes very much, they just seem to black out before my Swarovski. On a normal moonlit night, I have made out a deer target well past sundown with no illuminated reticle.


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Shottist,

That is a really really good idea.

I will PM you my address and you can post the Swaro of your choice to me for me to rerun the test. dancing
 
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Not doing it tonight its pooring down!


tu2


Cheers,

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