Hi guys, what do think is the best sound mod???
I had a reflex T8 for 3 years until it burst on my 6.5x55 (it had rusted from the inside) and for the last 2 years I have been using a Wildcat preditor 8. I use it on my .222 and 6.5x55

I like the wildcat as it is light weight and can be stripped down for cleaning, and you can change the thread inside so you dont need 2 mods for rifles with different thread sizes.

On my .222 it is great and I am very happy with it, however on the 6.5 not so good, it is very loud more so than the T8 was, wildcat do a 12 baffle end for the preditor which they say is suitable for magnum cal's, but I wouldnt class a 6.5x55 as a "magnum" and at £170 and adding my length and weight I think I might be better off just buying another Mod for the 6.5

What do you lot think???

Aaron

All mine are ASE utra, 2 compacts and 1 s5.

Cannot beat the compacts IMHO!

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Originally posted by nightwalker uk:
All mine are ASE utra, 2 compacts and 1 s5.

Cannot beat the compacts IMHO!

+1

I swear I shot a wildebeest with my 260 in August that I wasn't sure if I misfired....

I think atmospherics and land topography make a big difference as I get a wide variation in pecieved "noise" from the same gun with the same load but all that witness it are surprised at the quietness of it.

rgds,
Kiri

Aaron, where have you been? Lost your number - phone got smashed. Give me a call or text.

Ref the moderators, the ASE Utra is definitely the quietest. Kiri, your 260 in particular seems very quiet, certainly quieter than mine with the same can.

I bought a Roedale Delta a few months ago, it may not be just as quiet as the ASE, but it is literally half the weight, so that is a compromise I can live with.

Brian,

That could be because Kiri does not have a sawn off!!

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Originally posted by DJM:
Brian,

That could be because Kiri does not have a sawn off!!

Dave, he bloody well does have a sawn off, his 260 is even shorter than mine.

Anyway back to the question.

I have had a T8, T8 Mag, T4, Lawrence Precision, and Jet-Z and I do some park culling work with friends who have PES, Northstar, S5, Wildcats.

We are all pretty much agreed that they rank from loudest to quietest.

PES & Wildcat
Northstar
S5
T4
T8
Jet-Z

The Wildcat was the biggest dissappointment a friend has one on his .243 and my .25-06 is with a T4 fitted is quieter.

Although the T4 is about 8 years old still in one piece, has already seen one barrel shot out and has never been cleaned so probably has extra silencing qualities due to all the carbon!

The JetZ is IMHO by far the best nice small size, still wieghty but does give a good sound reduction.

It cannot be too bad as a tight wad like me has bought 3 of them!

There are some lightweight Alloy mods available, buit they will not stand up to the kind of use we would put them through, this was the manufacturers advice!
They are ok if you are only going to fire the odd shot but will burn out if you are going to be firing a number of mutliple shot strings.

Don't you guys agree ultimate efficiency depends on who is fitting it and tolerance or clearance to bore ?

All one need is the baffles to be less than a thousand of an inch off consistency and efficiency goes out window

Try that

Take your moderator apart and measure each bore holes consistency of each baffle

I think you will pleasantly surprise

Since uk moderator Market is so cut throat

Quality control does not exist with some brands

All they are doing are manufacturer in mass and assemble

Bit like the chinese Market .....

Brian is your ASE the 6.5mm or the 7mm one? Some guys seem to stock 6mm for everything up to 243 and then .30 for anything upto 308.

I think it was 1894 that made a comment to me and I made sure I had a 6.5mm one ordered for the gun.

I really like that gun, so much so that I left the 375 in the room in Africa this year and hunted with the 260 much to Amirs disgust!!

K

There are only 2 versions of the standard ASE Jet-Z I believe, up to .25cal and upto .30 cal.

Dave, I think you are correct reference the sizes. My ASE mod is a 30cal, I am told (1894 maybe?) that the 25 cal version will work up to 7mm if the threading is absolutely true. A 25 cal will certianly work on a 6.5, that is what I should have had.

I am using the ASE on the 30/06 now, so it can stay there.

I am using the Roedale on the 260, it seems to be a neat fit, but the Roedale does not work as well on the 22/250 as the ASE does for some reason.

I think I will look out for and ASE CQB for the 22/250.

Brian,

My ASE Ultra is definately a 6.5mm as i remember askin Rick Whitely if it was a .30 calibre one and he gave me one of those dispariging looks that Amir knows so well.

I'll ask jhim again at the risk of getting the eye rolling and tu tutted at...

K

Kiri the size should be stamped on the side of your mod from the factory.

Have you looked at the A-TEC in 6.5mm?
I've got one on order specifically to go on a 6.5x55 and will be very interested in how it performs. Currently wears a T8 but it is weighty wandering about with it..

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Originally posted by DJM:
Kiri the size should be stamped on the side of your mod from the factory.

I stand corrected. I had a look and it seems that it was stamped .30 calibre. I measured the hole with the micrometer and got 340 thou for the opening. I could swear I read on the box it was a 6.5mm... I suppose my memory ain't what it was!!

Brian, it would be interesting to try the load I shoot in your gun if it chambers and see if there is a difference.

K

I'm thinking of getting an ASE for my 6.5. Is there anyway of cleaning them?
After looking on their website I'm also a little confused as to which particular one is best?

Hi All, I exclusively use Ase Utras as I have found them to perform really well. A little weighty I will admit, but on my T3 Lites they are not too bad.

I would be interested to hear of any experience with the new Titanium 'Quicksilver' mod, which is a lot lighter (and nearly twice expensive as an Ase Utra). Apparantly, these are being manufactured in the UK (to get over US export ban) by George Balbino (anyone heard of him)?

jcorry, on the question of cleaning the Ase Utra, their manual says, and I qoute:

'Remove the supressor after each shooting session, this allows condensation from the powder gases to evaporate away. After use, spray some WD40 or similar light gun oil into and onto the supressor ........' It goes on to say that washing with liquids or solvents is not recommended.

Hope this helps

B

I have heard the Quicksilver mods are now down to £350 dont know if its true. I have seen one and the owner seemed pleased enough with it.

I did have another make of Titainium mod that was nearly as shocking as the customer sevice and people skills of the manufacturer. Details by PM if you are looking at buying a Ti Mod.

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Originally posted by DJM:
I did have another make of Titainium mod that was nearly as shocking as the customer sevice and people skills of the manufacturer. Details by PM if you are looking at buying a Ti Mod.

Would that be the manafacturer who didn't have one to try, who wouldn't give baffle design or even hole clearance etc for fear of industrial espionage? The Ti mod that weighs nealy double the weight of an ATEC CMM4 and is 3 times the price? I note it's not ranked for sound moderation in your test. My talking to owners yielded it was loud.

I previously swore by my little custom PES but always tried others. Many were similar but none much quieter until I tried the ASE Utra compact (read Jet Z). I bought it on the spot and have now got addicted to the lack of noise and the nice front heavy balance on a 20" barrel.

The up to 25cal mod has a bore of 7.5mm. Given a VERY straight thread it works on 7mm rifles shooting well stabilised bullets (.25mm clearance which I think is about 20thou") It is quieter as a result.

The compact Jet Z designed for 22CF has a bore of 7.3mm. The 30cal Jet Z is 8.5mm

The Atec CMM4 is a modular aluminium can of similar dimensions to a Jet Z but about 230g. It is I am told the same noise as a T8. Mounted on my 308 titanium it gives a 7lb moderated rifle. Personaly I prefer the Jet Z for it's taming of both noise and movement when field shooting.

1894

Long and painfull story but that sounds like the guy.

Any of you knowledgeable gents heard of the Third-eye Tactical 'Spartan'?

Pricing and construction seem good, fire-cutting minimised by the baffle construction. Strippable and light-weight, seems like an attractive package.

Not sure about the sound attenuation, so I would be grateful for any user experiences or data.

Rgds

Ian

Ian thought you were lost in Goyle somewhere!

Yes seen and heard a couple not impressed with the sound attenuation, not in the same league as a Jet-Z

And the winner is....... Jet Z!!! Ordered 1 today, local gun shop did it for a good price (£40 less than RRP) and bought my wildcat from me aswell

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Originally posted by Claret_Dabbler:


I think I will look out for and ASE CQB for the 22/250.

Brian,the CQB is,I think,designed with the 223/5.56 in mind.At least one lad down here had issues sticking it on a 220 Swift or 22/250,not sure which as it was a whike ago.

I use a T8 and when that rusts out as they all do will stick my S5 on.