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Hello, I live in Alberta Canada. It's come to my attention that I am able to take foreigners hunting with me, so I figured what the heck? It sounds fun to host people from out of the country if anyone is interested drop me a line. Maybe we could come up with an interesting trade. the cheftdneal@shaw.ca | ||
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Chef. Many thanks for the offer - its wonderful that there are folks out there who are happy to be that generous. Yes, hosting is fun. Over the last few years I have hosted fellow hunters from Italy,Australia, Norway, Sweden, Holland and Germany. I have made some great friends and in return have enjoyed some fantastic hunting in return. It can all be put down to contacts made through this forum. Thanks Saeed! I have visited Alberta a couple times now - and really enjoyed the hunting and the countryside. Thanks to the generosity of Dan Belisle and friends in Edmonton. Swap hunting is something that should be encouraged and tried - everyone benefits!  Rgds Ian Just taking my rifle for a walk!........ | |||
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Count me in! I live in BC, and would "swap-hunt" with anyone, anywhere. Having said that - can I do that in BC? | |||
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I decided for Namibia this year, but I'm very interested. Can you give some more info like which kind of hunt it is? On mountains/hills/plain? Thank you in advance bye Stefano Waidmannsheil | |||
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Ok here goes. We travel one hour north of Ft.Mcmurray Alberta then park the truck and get on a quad. We each drive a quad and pull a trailer with it. The trail in takes 14 hours to travel about 50 km and about 30 km of it is on a dirt road so that gives some kind of idea the roughness of the terrain. There's a lot of muskeg to get through where we have to cut down trees and fill the holes in the muskeg in order to drive the quads over. We have to cross 2 rivers, but the land is quite flat. And since we're usually the only ones using the trail we have to stop everytime we have a tree that has fallen over the path and cut it with the chainsaw, then pull it out of the way, this can be quite daunting after awhile, and you'll be expected to help not just sit on your quad and drive. This isn't a guided trip, I'm looking for people who want to be a hunter like the rest of us, that involves working to get in and out of the area, helping gut and quarter the animals, helping with camp chores etc. I guess what I'm saying is you have to pull your weight just like any real hunting camp. This is a prime way to see how real Canadians hunt in real wilderness and it's not something a guide would do, it's too much work for them they want to use a plane or helicopter etc. This is a lightly hunted area with lots of game and one of our party got the third biggest moose in Alberta (about 5 yrs ago). You'll see the northern lights, hear the wolves, catch arctic grayling one after another for as long as you can cast a rod. You'll see darkness at night and hear silence like few have experienced. The blueberries are so thick the ground in the distance looks dusty purple. And the bears eat so many blueberries that their shit looks like blueberry jam . The mosquitos and black flies will attack you like bombers, but the land will steal your heart.what more can I say? the chef | |||
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I too am very interested!!!!Is anyone interested in swap-hunt to New Zealand? "Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few." Sir Winston Churchill | |||
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I forgot to mention that every big game hunter in alberta can also shoot wolves, with out buying a seperate tag. the chef | |||
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This is against the law in B.C., at least where foreigners are concerned and the penalties are severe; the B.C.G.O.A. has lots of clout with the assholes in Victoria and they have hunting in B.C. regulated much the way they want it. A B.C. resident can host ONE other Canadian and certain categories of relatives who may not be Canadian citizens, for hunts in areas where the species sought are not under L.E.H. This is why the alien kill of our wild Sheep, for example, is higher than the resident harvest as the Outfitters get guaranteed quotas and sell the hunts to wealthy foreigners. I am in favour of trading hunts among Canadians, but, I am increasingly opposed to any foreign hunting in B.C., excepting perhaps Black Bears. We do not have sufficient game for everyone who lives here to get a Bighorn, Stone's or Dall's Ram every year, or even a Moose, so why allow foreigners to kill our game? | |||
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Chef, now that sounds really exciting! I was in Banff twice for management training and really liked the environment. So far, I have only hunted whitetail deer in Ontario. | |||
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Well, in alberta you can host friends every other year, according to the information I've been given. It's not something I would do often but once or twice in my lifetime I will. The hosted hunter has to draw just like anyone else. It's not like an outfitter who buys the tags to resell them. The law specifically says "no money may exchange hands" that outlaws gratuities also. the chef | |||
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As Ian mentioned, we did this last year. It was a great hunt, I really enjoyed it and made some great friends. In Alberta this is perfectly legal. Every second year you can host a friend, or one friend and one relative. Again, this is a straight "bring your buddy" kind of deal, no money to exchange hands, in other words, you don't charge for it. If you charge for it, you're guiding, and that requires very specific licencing etc. Here in Alberta, there are moose, whitetail deer, mule deer, mountain sheep, elk, wolves, cougars and bears (black and grizzly, grizz are draw only tho') available to hunt. There are also mountain goats, but only for residents if memory serves. We also have some wild bison in the north (which is what we were after last year), but those aren't classed as a game animal, yet. All in all, Alberta is a pretty good place to be a hunter. Calgary Chef, if you want some more info on how thise came about or how to do it, just email me at danbelisled@netscape.net - Dan "Intellectual truth is eternally one: moral or sentimental truth is a geographic and chronological accident that varies with the individual" R.F. Burton | |||
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Dan, I know I've mentioned this before... enlighten me, isn't it so that you can take someone in year 1, but then not in year 2 and year 3, yes again in year 4, not in 5 and 6. I talked to my lawyer about this and the "trading of a hunt" is technically also a reward, hence illegal. Non-residents aliens cannot get sheep tags, and no goat tags, and no trophy antelope tags except through an outfitter, and no grizzly tags. Still leaves plenty to chase after though. It's all written up pretty clearly in the Hunting Regs, available on-line at http://www.albertaoutdoorsmen.org/huntingregs/ Rules are slightly different for non-resident Canadians. Frans | |||
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Just don't phrase it that way. The term trading implies bartering, ie. a transaction. A reciprocal hunt in your friend's home area should not be construed as a reward. More of a common courtesy. I will confirm what Kutenay said, also. This type of thing is strictly ILLEGAL in B.C., unless the non-resident of B.C. happens to be a resident of Canada OR a close (direct) relative of the sponsoring resident. A friend of mine managed to do this once for a relative from NZ. It was pretty cool. Cheers, Canuck | |||
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If anyone is really interested in doing this, we have to get moving on the paperwork. Soooo send me an email tdneal@shaw.ca. Once I have a few people interested I'll talk to you on the phone and decide who seems the best candidate to come along. My hunting partner is willing to act as host to one hunter also, so together we could take you and a buddy. thanks to everyone who has helped to steer me in the right direction regarding paperwork etc. the chef | |||
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Frans, you're correct, sort of. The reason that it counts the way it does, is that the season runs from Sept of one year, to April of the next, ie: 2004-2005. So, becaus ethe season doesn't end until 2005, even though you hunted in 2004, you can't go until 2 years after the season you went in ended. In other words, in this example, 2007. If you were trading hunts on paper, value for value, then yes, this would be illegal, however, as pointed out, if you are just trading courtesies, no problem. If you're going to do it, you'll need your paperwork done and in by June. Your guests will need WIN numbers, which you can get for them, actually. Paperwork for thier firearms for whatever country they come from, an they get a temp. firearms possession permit at the border, or at Canada customs when they arrive, for $50 cdn. Not tough to do, you will have to fill out forms (and so will your guest/s) and have them witnessed and notarised, and then brought to the F&G office near you. - Dan "Intellectual truth is eternally one: moral or sentimental truth is a geographic and chronological accident that varies with the individual" R.F. Burton | |||
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Wow Chef, that is a tough act to follow. Sounds fantastic! I have 120 acres well populated with roe deer but only 15 minutes from Bristol Airport - direct flight from the US on Continental. Wilderness it is not! ------------------------------ Richard VENARI LAVARE LUDERE RIDERE OCCEST VIVERE | |||
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I can vouch for Calgarychef1's area to hunt. Simply awesome. I use to hunt the area myself around the Firebage area and north to north east. Lots of Moose, Lots of bears and wolves. Good luck to anyone that goes!! Greg | |||
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LOL, well, we still have a little wilderness left, but it's going fast. - dan "Intellectual truth is eternally one: moral or sentimental truth is a geographic and chronological accident that varies with the individual" R.F. Burton | |||
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Hello; Yeah, it's nice country, but the Oil Sands projects are wrecking it real quick. If you hunt before the frost, bring lots of bug repellant and a head net. You'le need em. Indeed, no human being has yet lived under conditions which, considering the prevailing climates of the past, can be regarded as normal. John E Pfeiffer, The Emergence of Man Those who can't skin, can hold a leg. Abraham Lincoln Only one war at a time. Abe Again. | |||
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The chef, it seems that you have opened a honey pot near a lot of hives.  Again not this year, but if it works put me on list. Even if I'm not a good walker, I've a lot of goodwill, maybe too much. And I please anyone will go with the chef to make a zillion of photos and write a diary full of details. bye Stefano Waidmannsheil | |||
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Nice idea. I'm very interesting. I live in Argentina and here, we hunt red deer, european wild boar, cougar, blackburn antelope, fallow deer, axis deer, etc. All is possible and a reciprocal hunt it's a good idea with all the members of the forum. If you like Argentina hunt, send me an mail. Thanks in advance. Hector | |||
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