I called Hodgdon and asked if they could provide me with information about buying their blackpowder substitute, Triple 7, in Europe. They tell me it is imported into the UK by Edgar Brothers and in Germany by LHS. They were unable however to tell me about retailers anywhere in Europe. So, anybody know who sells Triple 7 in the UK or Germany? I'm interested in the FFFg granular and/or pellets for a 44 caliber blackpowder revolver.

Sportsman Gun Centre and many, many more will deal with Edgar brothers here in the UK.

Legislation means that mail order is really not that feasible - however, if you are coming to the UK and find a local Firearms dealer, chances are he can pre-order what you require.

Regarding exporting back to France.... Well, we are all european now!

Rgds Ian

IanF, if I were to visit the UK and want to purchase some Triple 7, what if any authorizations or identification would be asked of me?

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Originally posted by Wink:
IanF, if I were to visit the UK and want to purchase some Triple 7, what if any authorizations or identification would be asked of me?

A explosive's license for the class of explosive, I think it's 1.4G, that permits you to acquire and keep.

met police explosives enquiry team

Send these chaps an email to see if your French explosives license can be in some way accepted or converted.

Best of luck,

Amir

About hogdon powders, does anyone know if it is possible to find LilGun in EU? I have to feed a .22KHornet.

Steve, I purchase Lil Gun in Germany. I'm surprised those who carry Hodgdon in Italy do not or can not get it for you, Waidmannsheil, Dom.

Stefano,

You can feed your 22 Hornet just as good with AA1680 & VVN110 as Lil Gun.

Hi Dom!

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Originally posted by Wink:
IanF, if I were to visit the UK and want to purchase some Triple 7, what if any authorizations or identification would be asked of me?



A explosive's license for the class of explosive, I think it's 1.4G, that permits you to acquire and keep.
Amir
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Wink

That's not actually the case.

At this time you can walk into a gun shop and purchase smokeless powder (not black powder which does need appropriate license due to its higher volatility) with NO authorization or license requiring to be shown. Primers and soft point bullets would require possession of UK FAC or conditioned visitors permit.

Whilst we Brits have a maximum amount we can store without a license - purchase is not restricted for the product you mentioned.

Can't emphasise enough - you would need to decide on a gunshop and arrange for the stuff to be ordered - in time for you to collect. They will confirm what lead time will apply, probably best to get them to check with Edgar brothers as to the UK stock situation. Deliveries from the US have been somewhat sporadic over the last year.

In fact, if you intend visiting the UK, contact me and I will try and arrange affairs on your behalf.


Rgds Ian

The actual classification of Hodgdon Triple 7 may be part of the problem. It is a blackpowder substitute and most likely classified similarly, since it is not a smokeless powder. Pyrodex is another example.

Ian, thank you for your offer. If the name and contact of a retail blackpowder powder dealer in the London area (since Triple 7 buyers would also be blackpowder buyers) could be supplied then I could contact them directly, so as not to cause you to lose any time on this.

Dom and Gerry,
thank you for the answers. The problem is that when a distributor wants to distribute a new kind of powder he must have a omologation fiche approved. The same happen when the official distributor change, the omologation fiche must be done again ftarting from 0. And it is expensive. LilGun is a niche market in Italy and probably the distributor decide to avoid to spend money to omologate it. The consequence is that it doesn't exist in Italy.

AA powders are not distributed in Italy, and VV110 does not give the best that I'm looking for.

I have to go to Austria, maybe they sell LilGun

Wink

Glad to confirm that both grades of Triple Seven are currently in stock in the UK - as well as being graded as Smokeless Powder.

Accordingly, no authorization is needed for this purchase. Quoted price at an expensive outlet, before haggling, was £36 a tub.

Let me know when you intend visiting and how much you require. It will be waiting for your pick up!

Rgds Ian