Other than holland is there any other comparable firearms out there ?

Older manufacture - The H&H design was copied by some UK and continental makers after the patent expired, Webley & Scott apparently among them. Westley Richards made something similar (Explora, Faunetta) but, as I understand it, they favored the rifle purpose more than the shotgun purpose and weighed a bit more accordingly. My personal belief is that H&H Paradox gun strikes the best balance between rifle and shotgun.

As far as new manufacture - I don't think so. At least I haven't heard of any other than H&H. Westley Richards was supposedly working on something in the 20 bore but I don't know the status of their project.

Army & Navy made their "Jungle Gun", as well as other made some Ball & Shot guns. Lots of threads here and on other forums.

Cogswell and Harrison made something similar.

A number of makers made them using WR'S system.

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IIRC i saw something similar at sci last year by an american maker . they also had a 20b double rifle that i thought would make a great pig gun.

maybe dig will remember the maker. they were not expensive and were selling really well.

K

Until the appearance of the Paradox, "ball & shot" guns had been either good with ball and poor with shot or good with shot and poor with ball. The Paradox was such a great success because it did so well as BOTH a shotgun and a rifle - paradoxically. So, when the man said comparable to the Holland's Paradox I immediately discounted numerous and various general "ball & shot" guns and designs that appeared before the Paradox patent expired.

Again, I focused on the word comparable ("...other comparable firearms out there?").

Londonhunter, did I misinterpret the question?

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Originally posted by Fallow Buck:
IIRC i saw something similar at sci last year by an american maker . they also had a 20b double rifle that i thought would make a great pig gun.

maybe dig will remember the maker. they were not expensive and were selling really well.

K

Perhaps you mean the RBL PROFESSIONAL 20ga. Sabot Slug Gun. It has fully rifled barrels and is designed to shoot 20 gauge slugs.

Has anyone tried one of those RBL's?