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link http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new...unt-animals-fun.html I don't think so, as I have hunted Scotland and found the people generally supportive and appreciative of my presence there. But the disconnect between city folk and country folk must really be huge! | ||
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You have to take what the Daily Mail publishes with about half the Pacific Ocean's worth of salt! A couple of year ago they had a rather nasty article about hunting in Africa, which was so badly written, by such an ignorant idiot. They had a discussion on their forum about it, so I posted a reply. My reply was pulled off, and then edited and posted the next day. The editing changed the whole meaning of my post. I wrote back and ansked why was my post edite? Never got a reply. I just love it when so called "free press" is running like a banana republic! | |||
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Yup; and the British media do everthing in their power to ensure Country Folk are either depicted as The Landed Gentry or Farmers who need to enlightened. Cheers, Number 10 | |||
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The vast majority of the British press are just scum, no other word for them. It is not even as if they are misinformed, they willfully misrepresent whole swaths of the population. Wouldn't hang their rags in squares beside my bog... The only newspaper that gives fieldsports in particular, and country people in general a fair hearing is the Daily Telegraph, AKA, the Daily Torygraph. Just because you are paranoid, doesn't mean they are not out to get you.... | |||
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All opinions on the British press aside, I would have to say (regretfully) that YES, the average person on the street would agree 100% with that newspaper article if I presented them with a series of African/Asian trophy hunting pictures. Outside of rural communities (and sometimes within those communities) there is no understanding or appreciation of hunting in general and trophy hunting in particular. In fact, you might be surprised to know that many hunters in the UK deplore the concept of 'trophy hunting' or 'species collecting' that is dear to the heart of many globe trotting American hunters. Culling overpopulated red deer herds is seen in one light and shooting a cuddly polar bear is seen as hopelessly victorian and no longer relevant. | |||
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It is not just a British phenomeon. It's pretty much the same all over central Europe. There is also a clear tendency - the more 'highly developed' a society, the more adverse is its people´s attitude towards hunting. | |||
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The paper's are just representing the very "PC" attitude of the majority of Urbanites who have been educated to think that all wildlife is sacred and killing it is a sin. They are uncomfortably silent and equally ill-informed about where the meat they eat comes from and how it is produced. Try explaining to them the economics and conservation benefits of hunting and they'll look at you in total disbelief. Yep, I thought the article was mild in comparison to some of the views I've heard expressed. Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened. Sir Winston Churchill | |||
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It is interesting to note that Scotland has one of the most urbanised and unevenly distributed populations in Europe, with about 80% of the population living in the Central Belt. The game rich Highlands are essentially empty. | |||
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Most of the young male readers would love a chance to date these beautiful young women. If girls the same age as these sisters knew how many young men flocked around them to talk about the latest hunt, well they would be pestering their parents for a rifle and a trip to use it on. As a young university student (after a stint in the 82nd Airborne Division as a Para medic), I literally lived off of road kill and whatever I could hunt or grow in the garden. Over the Christmas holidays I had a day date scheduled with a winsome and intelligent girl back in my home town. I went goose hunting early that morning (St. Hubertus was with me, I had taken a three bird limit of Canadian geese and five "green head" mallard drakes). I walked up the drive with two geese in hand so I could offer to pluck one or two for their Christmas feasting. Her parents came outside. Mom was clearly enraged; dad was along for the ride (he didn't want to lose out on a chance for some bad holiday sex with his harridan of a mate. I was thrown off the property and told that I was not to see their daughter - ever. My only remarks were that I was twenty four and their daughter was twenty two; also to be careful about pushing her agenda too hard - she might achieve the opposite of what she desired. That was rewarded with a few choice phrases that reminded me of guys trash talking in the barracks after too much beer. Anyway, I will cut to the chase. Our romance gradually died for other reasons, but our friendship continues to this day. I taught her to shoot with pistol, shotgun, modern rifles and muzzle-loaders and bow and arrow. She became my most reliable hunting partner all through the rest of our university days and afterward until I moved out west. Her father gradually got his priorities in order, and started hunting and fishing with his daughter. They grew much closer through that. As for mom; who cares. She threatened divorce if he did not stop "corrupting" their then 26 year old "little baby". He called her bluff. That was twenty-five years ago. She married a hunter and fisherman. Dad remarried a huntress and fisher-woman. My BFF (best female friend) and I do as much hunting, fishing and shooting as we physically can. My whole point is that it is amazingly easy to get any 1/4th reasonable person to join you breaking clays, the pheasant, then Roe, etc. etc. Do not argue, seduce those that you can, and shrug your shoulders at those you cannot.  | |||
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Funny how the di**heads who pontificate on hunters "hiding" behind their given reasons don't appear in full photographic detail, alongside their letters / comments etc. | |||
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Steve That's because there's no facility for attaching photos on the Daily Mail article comment section.  | |||
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Don't see any letters complaining about that lack of facility, maybe because they wouldn't have the nads to publish their faces. | |||
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Why would you expect there to be letter of complaint regarding the lack of that particular facility? It would be a rather pointless and futile provision anyway. There are appox 56m people camped in the UK. The chance that you would be able to spot a familiar face in the crowd in order to remonstrate with them are even lower than your chance of winning the big payout roll over euro lottery.  Besides if here were such a facility who is to say that the face in the photo is that of the poster. People have often commented on my resemblance to a certain wealthy russian football fan What do you think. Simples!  | |||
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Probably why they chose that rag to complain in. | |||
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 Not really! Seeing as the article was in the rag in question there would be little point in complaining about it in anything else or anywhere else. You could always pop along to the HSA face book page and make a comment and add a photo of your self asking for similar responses or the LACS blog page. I'm sure you would attract quite a following in a very short space of time.  | |||
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A photographic likeness of me appears on enough sensible hunting forum's, along with my chosen target species, to negate the need to visit such websites as you mention.  | |||
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A fuzzy photo from 10 years ago pinned to a few posts on a friendly pro blood sports forum, or some photo gallery inclusions of some bloke sat behind a deer with his hat pulled down around his ear whilst grinning like a cheshire cat. Hardly compares to posting a current mug shot in one of the daily tabloids comments web sites or on the prime sites used by many with whom you seem to have such a problem. Lead by example, and have the courage of your convictions. Practice what you preach and you might find some that stand in the opposite corner of the debate might follow suit and post their most recent passport photo up for you to oggle at. | |||
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their dad must be awfully rich, seeing as grizzly and dall sheep in AK isn't on normal teenagers trophy list. | |||
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Ten years ago?, I post my visage regularly, as I am an active participant in "Blood sports" , but would not be so ignorant of others as to force my likings on others.  | |||
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"I post my visage regularly, as I am an active participant in "Blood sports""AR is about as open a forum as you'll likely to get. Now's your chance to up date the files. Stick a current mug shot up on here with some post concerning a particular issue that you feel you wish to take the Animal Rights anti blood sport lobby to task over and invite their response. On the proviso that they post their mug shot too. You never know it might just start a new trend in open communication between the 2 factions  The anti blood sport lobby doesn't force you into doing anything. What they do is win the political debate and the ensuing political and legal process either restricts or expands your choices. You always have the option to be non-compliant with any changes that may ensue following their debate victories. Freedom of choice and majority rule is just 2 of the ways democracy works. For a reasonably intelligent individual I would have thought you would have worked those particular conundrums out for yourself by now  . Perhaps my judgement call was off slightly in that regard. In many ways both sides are as blinkered and as determined to flog their dead horse as each other | |||
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I wear my hunting clothes almost every day in the UK and abroad. Many times with logos or firearms pics on it. Haven't noticed any bad looks towards me but to be honest, I don't care even if they do. | |||
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They must think its some kind of fashion statement. A bit like a vegan wearing leather. | |||
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Gintrap, why don't you start the ball rolling with your photo?, or are you as faceless as you are witless. | |||
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I think it's time to turn off the lights again on this troll. That's that the 4th time? I've lost count. Don | |||
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thanks don but this time his name did come closer to the truth though, a sad life sitting behind the computer sipping gin and going to forums where you are constantly kicked off. oh well, fresh air again best peter | |||
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