One for the self-sufficient types, this one.

Gentlemen, let's assume you wanted to go for a week to your favourite little patch in Scotland miles from anywhere and wanted to do your own catering, what would you do?

I want top go on a trip for the roe up to my syndicate in Scotland to do some scouting for the reds later as well as hopefully bag a little buck or three.

There is a caravan on site and I've got a decent tent, sleeping bag and groundsheet in case I fancy camping up on the hill.

I want to not leave the land if at all possible, it's around 60 miles to the nearest town, moreover I want to pretend it's a week's shooting in the wilderness and not nip down to the takeaway in the village for a chowmein every night.

I am prepared to look into utensils and so on, also whether to take take military rations or buy fresh food and cook up there.

Any and all ideas on kit, meals, etc welcome as always.

With thanks,

Amir

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Dry meat and mix of raisins and peanuts is great for walking energy.
Dry soups,real boiled coffe, and knäcke bread(light tasty and you can keep it long.

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Amir

No need to live like a hard core polar explorer. Unless for some weird reason you particularly want too of course.

If theres a van on site presumably it has a stove. So its no different to bothy living. Lots of one pot cooking.
Get a pressure cooker. One did me just fine for 3 years. 2 days worth of lamb stew cooks in about 20 minutes from start to finish. You can cook everything from porridge to Zuppa di Fagioli, Datteri di Mare e Pasta in it.

Never been one for living under canvas. All a bit too boy scoutish.

You can use fresh food for the first 3 or 4 days if you have a good cooler. Then start to go with more canned/dehydrated food.

I never get too fussed about good food when I camp, seems I've done too much cooking in my former life.

Sausages are easy, get some good hot smoked stuff and they will keep well. I hope I don't go to hell for suggesting pork

Eggs keep well and a nice omlette is good for breakfast as much as supper

Potatoes wrapped in foil and cooked/burned in the camp fire, make a couple extra and fry them up for breakfast the next day.

Some kind of dry pasta in a package with sauce. One of those just add water things. Bring along a can of salmon and add it at the last minute. It's not good but when you're hungry.....

I see lots of boil in the bag stuff like lamb shanks on the shelves here.

I always bring apples, carrots, and potatoes they keep well and go with lots of stuff. Not light enough for back packing but that's not what you're doing.

Canned ham, sardeines etc. with a slice of cheese and some bread is good for the daytime when you're out on the land.

I always take a big bag of "gorp" or trail mix. But I mix my own with the stuff I like, don't buy the premixed stuff. You can throw a bit of this in with your oatmeal in the morning.

A bag of instant coffee, tea and fruit juice crystals. The fruit juice is nice at night with some hot water instead of cold. Also nice with a shot of something stronger in it but not for you because you don't drink...you must be a saint!

The thing to do really is make a menu for the whole week then start plugging in meals in the proper slot, pretty soon the menu will be filled out and you'll know what to buy.

Sounds like a fun week out!

Amir, if you are going to where I think you are headed, it is only a few miles to the Loch Fine Oyster Company. I can strongly recommend the hot smoked salmon.

If you are seriously intent on going solo for a week, my best advice is don't, it will freak a city boy like you. Have a exit plan to hit the road home mid way. Two or three nights is as much as I can manage before I need my shower, my bed and someone to talk to.

Thanks you chaps.

There is either a stove up there or I will take one as I think open fires might be viewed in a dim light near forestry blocks.

I was never a boy scout ( figuratively or literally ) but I do have a hankering for some of basic camping-type things, if only as an experience.

I take on board the comments about not having to go completely commando but the issue would be that there is no fridge and I would like to eat relatively well while up there.

Keep the excellent advice coming please, I can't be a city boy all my life.

PS. no more mincing on the following topics:

1. Pork and equally delicious pork products
2. Good whisky for toddy-making

That is all.

The best thing I've ever done is stop at Mc.Donalds and get a dozen cheese burgers. Those things will keep at least three days in cool temps.

1 loaf sliced brown bread
1 jar marmalade thick cut
1 pack butter
1 pack bacon unsmoked dry cured.
That's a weeks worth of Bacon & Marmalade Sandwiches for breakfast. Just needs a mug of tea to wash down.

1 Ham, Wiltshire cure & 12 Eggs & 1 bag potatoes.
I bottle Worcester sauce
1 Bottle Talisker
Thats your suppers sorted.

12 Yorkie Bars and 12 small bottles of Irun Brew. Thats a lightweight lunch that'll keep you going.
Don't forget the white gold now 80)

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Originally posted by Ghubert:
One for the self-sufficient types, this one.

Gentlemen, let's assume you wanted to go for a week to your favourite little patch in Scotland miles from anywhere and wanted to do your own catering, what would you do?

I want top go on a trip for the roe up to my syndicate in Scotland to do some scouting for the reds later as well as hopefully bag a little buck or three.

There is a caravan on site and I've got a decent tent, sleeping bag and groundsheet in case I fancy camping up on the hill.

I want to not leave the land if at all possible, it's around 60 miles to the nearest town, moreover I want to pretend it's a week's shooting in the wilderness and not nip down to the takeaway in the village for a chowmein every night.

I am prepared to look into utensils and so on, also whether to take take military rations or buy fresh food and cook up there.

Any and all ideas on kit, meals, etc welcome as always.

With thanks,

Amir

Amir,

As promised, on its way to you - one untampered with British Army Section 48hr MRE ration pack - that's enough hi-carb' calorie enhanced stodge to keep 8 blokes functioning for two days, so should keep you going for at least a week (actually, by intent or by accident, they mostly stop you going but that's a different matter - saves on Dave's white gold).

The high points are the Lamb Tajine and the Beef Hot-Pot - the low points are the Lemon Sponge pudding and the instant coffee. Avoid the Biscuits (Brown) at all costs... I'd mention the Tabasco Sauce too but I suspect you won't be indulging in that?

Just add a Jetboil stove, a camping cafetiere and a weeks worth of premium quality ground coffee and you are set for anything. Oh, I do like to pack a small wireless too, but that's mostly because hell will freeze over before I miss an episode of The Archers.

Adam.

Sounds like its going to be a great trip/adventure

Why not take a few of those boil in the bag currys all the supermarkets do, kept me going when I was a student

Have a gret trip, looking forward to hear how you get on.

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Originally posted by Trapper Dave:
1 loaf sliced brown bread
1 jar marmalade thick cut
1 pack butter
1 pack bacon unsmoked dry cured.
That's a weeks worth of Bacon & Marmalade Sandwiches for breakfast. Just needs a mug of tea to wash down.

1 Ham, Wiltshire cure & 12 Eggs & 1 bag potatoes.
I bottle Worcester sauce
1 Bottle Talisker
Thats your suppers sorted.

12 Yorkie Bars and 12 small bottles of Irun Brew. Thats a lightweight lunch that'll keep you going.
Don't forget the white gold now 80)

Thats a lot of pork.............

Also is that bacon with maramalade sandwiches or bacon and marmalade sandwiches?
The thought of the first makes me want to

With all those eggs, he'll not be needing many sheets of white gold.It could well be a case for Dyna Rod.

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Originally posted by calgarychef1:
The best thing I've ever done is stop at Mc.Donalds and get a dozen cheese burgers. Those things will keep at least three days in cool temps.

You're not wrong Tracy, those suckers appear everlasting!
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Thank you for the rest of the tips Chef, good stuff there and much to think about.

I need to give some thought to minimizing the rubbish I generate too.

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Originally posted by Trapper Dave:
1 loaf sliced brown bread
1 jar marmalade thick cut
1 pack butter
1 pack bacon unsmoked dry cured.
That's a weeks worth of Bacon & Marmalade Sandwiches for breakfast. Just needs a mug of tea to wash down.

1 Ham, Wiltshire cure & 12 Eggs & 1 bag potatoes.
I bottle Worcester sauce
1 Bottle Talisker
Thats your suppers sorted.

12 Yorkie Bars and 12 small bottles of Irun Brew. Thats a lightweight lunch that'll keep you going.
Don't forget the white gold now 80)

Good tip on the white gold Dave, but mate...bacon and marmalade sandwiches...

I think I'll stick with ketchup mate.

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Originally posted by Adam.270:

quote:

Originally posted by Ghubert:
One for the self-sufficient types, this one.

Gentlemen, let's assume you wanted to go for a week to your favourite little patch in Scotland miles from anywhere and wanted to do your own catering, what would you do?

I want top go on a trip for the roe up to my syndicate in Scotland to do some scouting for the reds later as well as hopefully bag a little buck or three.

There is a caravan on site and I've got a decent tent, sleeping bag and groundsheet in case I fancy camping up on the hill.

I want to not leave the land if at all possible, it's around 60 miles to the nearest town, moreover I want to pretend it's a week's shooting in the wilderness and not nip down to the takeaway in the village for a chowmein every night.

I am prepared to look into utensils and so on, also whether to take take military rations or buy fresh food and cook up there.

Any and all ideas on kit, meals, etc welcome as always.

With thanks,

Amir

Amir,

As promised, on its way to you - one untampered with British Army Section 48hr MRE ration pack - that's enough hi-carb' calorie enhanced stodge to keep 8 blokes functioning for two days, so should keep you going for at least a week (actually, by intent or by accident, they mostly stop you going but that's a different matter - saves on Dave's white gold).

The high points are the Lamb Tajine and the Beef Hot-Pot - the low points are the Lemon Sponge pudding and the instant coffee. Avoid the Biscuits (Brown) at all costs... I'd mention the Tabasco Sauce too but I suspect you won't be indulging in that?

Just add a Jetboil stove, a camping cafetiere and a weeks worth of premium quality ground coffee and you are set for anything. Oh, I do like to pack a small wireless too, but that's mostly because hell will freeze over before I miss an episode of The Archers.

Adam.

Thanking you.

I'm was liking the idea of the kelly kettle more than the jetboil, have you had a change in opinion?

I love my Kelly Kettle for camp-based stuff but at what the f#%k o'clock before a roe buck outing, it definitely comes under the heading of 'too much fannying about' - the JetBoil is just click and go, so perfect for the essential pre-prandial caffiene dose. ...and I'd rather sleep with my boots on than lose out on the coffee.

Go over to this site and take a look:

http://www.hotpackmeals.co.uk/

This stuff works really well and is good to eat which is a bonus. Now I know you will probably have a stove and so on if you have a van but if you are going to be out on the ground all day and especially if it is going to be as cold as it has been for the last month then drop one of these into the rucksack and you can have a hot meal at lunchtime. They would also be ideal if you were to come back late at night and not want to spend any time cooking, or cleaning up.

My experience with them has been that the food actually gets hot, which isn't true of all self heating food, especially if you take care to put it in a sheltered spot when heating. When I place an order I usually get delivery within less than a week, 3 days would be about the normal.

I heard the is a good Chinese restaurant nearby who serves crayfish fresh daily

Don't forget onion rings and hair dryer

I'm sorry, but if you've never tried Bacon & Marmalade Sandwiches, you really haven't lived life to the full.

I must stress that you need a thickcut Dundee and not some oversweetened golden shred.

Just put a spoonful on each rasher sfter you've turned it in the pan and give it a chance to heat through before lifting and making upthe sandwich.

Somewhere in the zone between sweetnsour and bbq sauce it shines on its own.

Try it before you knock it, you might surprise yourself.

Dave

Sound vile. I'm not a great fan of a chinky of an evening let alone for breakfast. Nowt wrong with HP sauce.

I prefer the traditional Oxford marmalde to Dundee marmalade its thicker and darker especially if left to mature.

Bread in an airtight Container will last a good few days. A cool box with some items again in airtight containers or pouches/tins makes for a small fridge. You know you will not be able to resist the roe liver...

Eggs and spuds, tinned ham (not spam ). marmalade and hallumi for sandwiches.

Coffee is a must and a stove top cafetiere is a great tool.

I'm guessing this will be the first time you will be going for more than three days without a kebab?

I couldn't do it.

Is there any lochs with so.E fish up.There?

K

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Originally posted by londonhunter:
I heard the is a good Chinese restaurant nearby who serves crayfish fresh daily

Don't forget onion rings and hair dryer

Hey, I didn't want to say anything here but you've forced me into it chief!

Would you like to tell the class why we are currently banned from that particularly handy and proximal Chinese takeway?

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Originally posted by Trapper Dave:
I'm sorry, but if you've never tried Bacon & Marmalade Sandwiches, you really haven't lived life to the full.

I must stress that you need a thickcut Dundee and not some oversweetened golden shred.

Just put a spoonful on each rasher sfter you've turned it in the pan and give it a chance to heat through before lifting and making upthe sandwich.

Somewhere in the zone between sweetnsour and bbq sauce it shines on its own.

Try it before you knock it, you might surprise yourself.

As matter of professional courtesy from one scientist to another I shall have to repeat your experiment and see whether I can recreate the same results from your method. As you are aware peer review can be a trying process*, but I know you have the integrity to accept the results.



*

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Originally posted by Fallow Buck:
Bread in an airtight Container will last a good few days. A cool box with some items again in airtight containers or pouches/tins makes for a small fridge. You know you will not be able to resist the roe liver...

Eggs and spuds, tinned ham (not spam ). marmalade and hallumi for sandwiches.

Coffee is a must and a stove top cafetiere is a great tool.

I'm guessing this will be the first time you will be going for more than three days without a kebab?

I couldn't do it.

Is there any lochs with so.E fish up.There?

K

The longest I've ever been without a Kebab was for two weeks in visiting family in the US. Hell it was, ruddy hell....

I am looking forward to livers and hearts for supper, like that lunch we had in SA of fresh braai'ed blesbok offal and chips from the restaurant; best lunch we had all week.

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Originally posted by Ghubert:

quote:

Originally posted by londonhunter:
I heard the is a good Chinese restaurant nearby who serves crayfish fresh daily

Don't forget onion rings and hair dryer

Hey, I didn't want to say anything here but you've forced me into it chief!

Would you like to tell the class why we are currently banned from that particularly handy and proximal Chinese takeway?

Dam .....

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Originally posted by Ghubert:

quote:

Originally posted by londonhunter:
I heard the is a good Chinese restaurant nearby who serves crayfish fresh daily

Don't forget onion rings and hair dryer

Hey, I didn't want to say anything here but you've forced me into it chief!

Would you like to tell the class why we are currently banned from that particularly handy and proximal Chinese takeway?

Is there any forum rules about blackmailing .....

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Originally posted by Ghubert:
I am looking forward to livers and hearts for supper, like that lunch we had in SA of fresh braai'ed blesbok offal and chips from the restaurant; best lunch we had all week.

you boys must like some damn awfull food. k

kebabs, offal and chips................

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Originally posted by Jools:

quote:

Originally posted by Ghubert:
I am looking forward to livers and hearts for supper, like that lunch we had in SA of fresh braai'ed blesbok offal and chips from the restaurant; best lunch we had all week.

you boys must like some damn awfull food. k

kebabs, offal and chips................

Heathen, know you not of the charms of properly prepared, fresh offal?


If you've only ever had it stewed to the consistency of tannery vat then fair enough; but grilled or fried up fresh it's a treat.

Oh and properly done kebabs are even better, we're not talking about the sort used chiefly to decorate a Pierre Cardin shirt on a night out after all.

Make sure you take some fruit and either muesli or some other cereal with roughage. While you can't get scurvy in a week you can completely block yourself up

You should also consider some sort of emergency system should the unthinkable happen and you badly injure yourself on the ground. Who will sound the alarm if you are overdue, how will you be found?

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Originally posted by 1894mk2:

You should also consider some sort of emergency system should the unthinkable happen and you badly injure yourself on the ground. Who will sound the alarm if you are overdue, how will you be found?

It's alright, Amir has a failsafe emergency procedure - after 24 hours of him being incommunicado, his long suffering but slightly off the wall partner phones round the local prisons. This usually works, even when he is in Africa.

As far as the rest of us are concerned, you might be slightly overestimating the level of concern should our hirsute Persiam friend go missing for any length of time...

quote:

Originally posted by Ghubert:

quote:

Originally posted by Jools:

quote:

Originally posted by Ghubert:
I am looking forward to livers and hearts for supper, like that lunch we had in SA of fresh braai'ed blesbok offal and chips from the restaurant; best lunch we had all week.

you boys must like some damn awfull food. k

kebabs, offal and chips................

Heathen, know you not of the charms of properly prepared, fresh offal?


If you've only ever had it stewed to the consistency of tannery vat then fair enough; but grilled or fried up fresh it's a treat.

Oh and properly done kebabs are even better, we're not talking about the sort used chiefly to decorate a Pierre Cardin shirt on a night out after all.

AFAIC there are no charms where anything offal is concerned. Be it heart, liver, kidney or chittlerins. Don't care if its Fried, grilled, poached, braised, roasted, boiled or raw.

How anyone can eat tripe is beyound me.

I've had the real Real Mccoy when it comes to kebabs but even these home produced delights don't do a great deal for me. I've only once had a friday night special. Never again!

Fair enough, it can remain beyond you.

More for the rest of us!

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Originally posted by Ghubert:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Trapper Dave:
I'm sorry, but if you've never tried Bacon & Marmalade Sandwiches, you really haven't lived life to the full.

I must stress that you need a thickcut Dundee and not some oversweetened golden shred.

Just put a spoonful on each rasher sfter you've turned it in the pan and give it a chance to heat through before lifting and making upthe sandwich.

Somewhere in the zone between sweetnsour and bbq sauce it shines on its own.

Try it before you knock it, you might surprise yourself.

As matter of professional courtesy from one scientist to another I shall have to repeat your experiment and see whether I can recreate the same results from your method. As you are aware peer review can be a trying process*, but I know you have the integrity to accept the results.


Absolutely but, as you know, hypothesis testing is an iterative process and you may become rather chubby by the time you've exhausted all the possible combinations of bread, bacon and maramalade.
I'd happily come and share each sarnie with you in the interests of objectivity but the hunting might tempt me away from the table.

Good luck with your trip & I hope the food remains very much at the back of your mind.

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Originally posted by Trapper Dave:

quote:

Originally posted by Ghubert:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Trapper Dave:
I'm sorry, but if you've never tried Bacon & Marmalade Sandwiches, you really haven't lived life to the full.

I must stress that you need a thickcut Dundee and not some oversweetened golden shred.

Just put a spoonful on each rasher sfter you've turned it in the pan and give it a chance to heat through before lifting and making upthe sandwich.

Somewhere in the zone between sweetnsour and bbq sauce it shines on its own.

Try it before you knock it, you might surprise yourself.

As matter of professional courtesy from one scientist to another I shall have to repeat your experiment and see whether I can recreate the same results from your method. As you are aware peer review can be a trying process*, but I know you have the integrity to accept the results.


Absolutely but, as you know, hypothesis testing is an iterative process and you may become rather chubby by the time you've exhausted all the possible combinations of bread, bacon and maramalade.
I'd happily come and share each sarnie with you in the interests of objectivity but the hunting might tempt me away from the table.

Good luck with your trip & I hope the food remains very much at the back of your mind.

If we can take your pickup rather than my BM, you've got a deal.

Bank holiday weekend?

Watchout Dave

He will have you driving and cooking not to mention you will end up in the flat bed of the hilux with quiddy oevade the snoring!!!

Amir, you know this thread is a moo point. All you need is a rifle an oven tray and a bag of charcoal with a bag of spuds and you can eat like a king. Don't forget the salt and a packet of saffron. Lots of water of course.

What's the mobile signal like up for there?

Jools hallumi an apricot jam sarnies after an hour under water diving are heavenly. Not sure about any other context but they worked well on the boat last time I tried.

K

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Originally posted by Fallow Buck:
Jools hallumi an apricot jam sarnies after an hour under water diving are heavenly. Not sure about any other context but they worked well on the boat last time I tried.

Sheeps cheese and jam............

you've got to be kidding!

Sounds like a dry run to me Amir ?...... Most hiking (tramping ?) shops have very useful kit and supplys. Worth a look.

The only issue is you usually have some uber fit nordic types working there, who live on lentils, thistle soup, smoke herbs and believe in free sex ..... Mmmm.

And we all know that sex isn't free.......

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The only issue is you usually have some uber fit nordic types working there, who live on lentils, thistle soup, smoke herbs and believe in free sex ..... Mmmm.

If you are referring to camping shop employees, yes. If you are referring to Scots, you couldn't be further from the mark!

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Originally posted by Boghossian:

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The only issue is you usually have some uber fit nordic types working there, who live on lentils, thistle soup, smoke herbs and believe in free sex ..... Mmmm.

If you are referring to camping shop employees, yes. If you are referring to Scots, you couldn't be further from the mark!

Don't know about camping shop employees. I've never had that much to do with one. As for the Scots. Never meet one that eat lentilds or thistle soup. But have sure meet a few lasses that smoked "herbs" and believed in free sex.
The problem was that many of them were pretty rough looking. So you had to be prepared to be selective.