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looking at the dimensions of the 9.3x74r, we see that the case diameter at the head is about the same as the 7x57R(.469") that means it will fit in the Hagn small frame FallingBlock action.
The small action weighs 2 lb,
9.3 barrel/sights about 3 lb
Walnut stock 2 lb
scope/mount 1 lb
.....about an 8lb total.

Would you go with the small, or would you opt for the medium action (2.5Lb)?
Weight seems ok, on par with your typical 9.3 Double,but
Which size action would it balance better with?
Would the small action look out of proportion with the dimensions of the 9.3 barrel?

Here is alink to show some size difference between the two:
http://www.martiniandhagngunmakers.com/customrifles.htm

This one shows asmall action in the white:
http://www.martiniandhagngunmakers.com/custombarrels.htm
 
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For information purposes.
My 9,3x74R Chapuis double rifle weighs 7 1/4 lbs without scope.


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Woodjack,
Hagn's brochure shows the small action for calibers .22 - .243.

I think you met Martini and Hagn at Reno recently. Did you ask them whether they will even build a 9.3 on a small action? Seems like a stretch.

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I spoke RalfMartini at ACGG-Reno last year. He had all 3 size recievers there on display.
The small one was an older version with the 1.0"barrel thread same as the medium action. But he said that new small recievers would have the 7/8" thread. I asked him about strength, he said not a problem,the small reciever with the 1.0" can easily handle magnums,7mmRm,300H*H etc.,more of an issue was if you can handle the recoil in such alight rifle.
If the Small action with 7/8 thread can handle 243win pressures than surely it can handle 9.3x74r pressures which are lower. If there is enough metal around the chamber for the 243,then there is also enough metal around the chamber for 9.3x74r as they have about the same case head dimension, (.470").

My main concern was weight/balance/asthetics/recoil.
 
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I saw all three actions lined up a couple of years ago. Even if it could be done on a small action, for aesthetics I’d still choose the medium. It’s hard to answer for someone else though.

Do you happen to know whether the lever has been changed? I think Martin Hagn mentioned they were going with the Farquharson type lever on all action sizes, not just the large.

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No I dont know of any changes to the lever for all three sizes. The lever on the large is different from the medium action and on their webpage for those actions, they show the small action as having a different a lever like the large reciever,see link below:
http://www.martiniandhagngunmakers.com/actions.htm
however the lever on the small action I viewed (see link below) was like the original design of the medium action:
http://www.martiniandhagngunmakers.com/customrifles.htm

I suppose that the newer farq.shape seems acceptable,but I dont really have aproblem with his original shape. In any case,both are much more simplified and refined than the Dakota10 bottom end.
I guess your right, for asthetics the 9.3 would look better on the medium,the 7x57 they show looks just about perfect on the medium action. But looks aside, I felt there was excessive stock&action- mass/weight if one was planning a trim little 7x57. ( makes a noticable difference in little rigs). Look at this trim little beauty under 7lb:
http://www.hallowellco.com/gastinne_renette_gibbs_farquhars.htm but that extra weight/mass of the medium reciever would not be an issue for the 9.3x74r. Just considering the small as an option,but maybe one does not need a9.3 that lite.
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