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Gents I took a wander out today to see if I might knock some bunnies over for landowner and saw deer both in the fields and tucked up in the wood. What does hot weather do to deer behaviour, what would make them go out and sun themselves in the fields vs sit tight in the shade? The woods and field are not shot very hard and so the mainly fallow deer are out during the day quite often. I saw fallow on the fields as late as 11pm but also some others that had tucked themselves up by 9 am. | ||
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After all the crap weather weve had the deer round me seem to enjoy coming out early at the moment. Seeing Sika and Roe out from 5pm most days now but seem to by in the cover just after first light. | |||
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Deer are ruminants. They will if left undisturbed adopt standard ruminant feeding and digestion patterns. What you have witnessed in nothing out of the ordinary. | |||
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In Richmond Park yesterday, they could be observed Chilling out in the shade with a glass of Pimms. You could tell its a Royal Park because they used Borage and not Cucumber. Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened. Sir Winston Churchill | |||
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Any sign of Fenton http://www.youtube.com/watch?h...&v=bmpONxJ7JSw&gl=US | |||
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 You get a better class of deer in London, the ones in Sussex were drinking White Lightning out of the bottle before even starting to feed. Shocking dentition too.  | |||
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Thanks DH, I was wondering how the deer react to such a big change in weather. It's interesting to compare experiences.  | |||
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Apart from prolonged periods of severe cold weather deer don't change their behaviour very much. Unlike towies they don't rush to put a brolly up at the first drops of rain.  What DH descripes is perfectly ususal behaviour for deer. Given that they have defined feed and rest cycles unless pressurised. A lengthy period of study observing deer behavioural patterns would seem to be the order of the day. Theres more to being a hunter of deer than humping a rifle around. | |||
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Very true Jools, many long years of observation and temperance would have had to have gone in to noticing deer are ruminants. Thankfully through canvassing the experience of vastly more experienced stalkers than you and I on this board, that nugget has already been revealed to me. I cross posted the question to a cow-watching forum and look forward to the revelations whereof. | |||
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Don't lump me into the same group as you..... I haven't been a novice wannabee stalker for a considerable number of years. Enjoy the replys you get back from the cow watching forum. I'm sure they will be of immense benefit to you. However I'll warn you now there are slight differences between cows and deer in regards to their behavioural patterns.  | |||
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I think it's safe to say I don't, in fact, put you in the same category as myself, for very many reasons. I do however await intelligent replies here with interest, as you've noticed in your many experiences there are small differences between the ruminants and the really experienced guys on here are very good at imparting knowledge. | |||
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Thank heaven for that....One class clown is enough for any web site. An honour I am very happy to leave soley in your hands. Some people like to think they are smart when in fact they are more like George, Prince of Wales in Blackadder. Who was univerisally acknoweldged as being a bit of a thickie. Are you inclined to wear pantaloons and boufant wigs?
I don't think you'll get far comparing the really experienced guys on here to cows........irrespective of how small the differences you might think there might be. | |||
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You betcha! Your knowledge of chemistry is all the proof your intelligence we need; as I said before it is unfortunate that if you did finish school, it's not readily apparent. With a written medium, one tends to judge the experience of a poster by their ability to pass on information. On that count, you very much fall short. Please don't feel obliged to post on threads that strain your knowledge and welcome, that's trolling.  | |||
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Whatever dude! Getting tetchy again I see.  You know what they say about buffoons that jump to conclusions. It just makes them look bigger asses. I've never felt obliged to reply to any post. I have always done so willingly. I'll look out for any thread that stains my knowledge. I doubt it will ever eminate from your good self.  Enjoy your trolling down on the political section. They have your card well and truely marked. | |||
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Oh do come off it.... You've spent every opportunity banging on about how experienced you are and to be perfectly honest, it's been decidedly unimpressive compared to the depth of experience available from other, better raised, posters on this board. What on earth makes you think anyone cares much for your opinion when there are rational, intelligent and polite chaps on here with more and varied hunting experience than you could ever hope to pretend too? I've had three pms with excellent advice and hard-won experience from guys who and I quote "Can't be bothered to bang heads with the chippy moron". Cards have indeed been marked. | |||
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LOL Now look who's getting tetchy? Didn't take much did it. Just a few truths. Whatever dude. | |||
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Like you say mate, just a few truths. | |||
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As with all truths there are always several versions. Personally I prefer the ones that I can believe in. I'm certain we have never been "mates"!  | |||
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I'm devastated... I mean, a world's worth of experienced, intelligent, properly-raised hunters to communicate with and it's apparent that you and I will never be friends...  | |||
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I'm sure you are devastated. What with you being a classic wannabe. I'm rather choosey about my friends. I prefer them to be less wet behind the ears and less asinine. I'm sure you'll eventually make some when you finally leave preschool. | |||
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 "Classic wannabe" | |||
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We agree. | |||
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No you acquiesce, in the English language, there is a difference. | |||
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Correct there is a difference. But not in this case. We agree that you're a classic wannabee. | |||
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We agree that you're floundering, hence the topic is now an amateur psychoanalysis discussion of me rather than your vast experience. Wannabee liked, wannabe respected, wanna have tried harder at school Jools. Unlucky. | |||
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Nothing of the sort Goober, But then you're to big a clown to see it, and way to desperate to admit it. See ya around sonny. | |||
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"too big", venerated elder...  | |||
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I acquiesce. | |||
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Of course, life has taught you to. | |||
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FFS GUYS!!!!!!!! Ask yourself if you'd be willing to discuss this exchange with your Firearms Officer on your next renewal. Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened. Sir Winston Churchill | |||
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But he wants the last word Dave, needs it in fact. | |||
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you betcha! | |||
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I don't do much with fallow this time of year. With roe I can tell you that the energy requirements of the does having just dropped makes them feed longer, harder and more often. Thusly mature does will probably be out longer and more often than yearlings and bucks/prickets. Some deer seem to be less tolerant of such 'risky' behaviour. Other factors to consider are flies/midges and whether something has recently been shot out of a herd. | |||
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Thanks 1894. I'm out after bunnies to tomorrow, think I'll spend some time in the woodsbefore and after and see what I can see. Interesting point about the insect life, there's a pond of sorts in the middle of a patch I'm thinking off that harbours a muntjac but the fallow avoid, are certain species more tolerant than others? With the number of ticks they seem to carry I can't imagine reds are too sensitive are they? With thanks, Amir | |||
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There is no difference between deer species in regards to tollerance to biting insects Be they red, sika, fallow, roe, muntjac or CWD. Tick burden is subject to level of exposure due to habitat occuppied nothing else. Basic beginners understanding of Cervidae really. | |||
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"Cervidae" instead of "ruminant", see even you've had occasion to learn from this thread. | |||
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Goober Some of us, myself being one of the some, already comprehend that all deer are ruminant mammals comprising the family Cervidae. The day I learn smething from one of your posts will be the day it snows in Tel Aviv. For the record the last snow fell in Feb 1950. So we can but live in hope. | |||
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 Tetchy? | |||
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Nope! Just a realist that accepts things for what they are. In this particular instance its that you have and never will have anything I need to know. Do you know any good jewish jokes? | |||
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